President Biden thread

Tweety said:

I was curious about this when I read Beerman's post about Biden's number's dropping and after seeing in a patient's room significant coverage of the protests against Biden over Israel on Fox News.

I think the Israeli conflict will cause a dip in his already low approval ratings.  Whether is makes the calls for his stepping out of the race louder will remain to be seen.  

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/bidens-approval-rating-drops-as-white-house-support-for-israel-divides-democrats/

I wonder what the approval ratings would be for the Republicans if they were deciding on their conduct during this war.  Biden has his problems but at least he is providing humanitarian relief for the Gazans which is a moral imperative for America.  I don't see the Republicans doing such a thing since they are aligned so closely with the religious right in Israel who are not interested in any peace agreements.  The Republicans may disapprove of us giving aid to the Arabs.  I suspect that they would be opposed which doesn't say much for our humanity or common sense making us look worst to the rest of the world.  Yes, the Democrats are divided but what kind of people woukd we be if we weren't?  We'd be hated even more by the Arab world which isn't an attractive alternative.  The Saudis have already declared their totally expected allegiance to their fellow Arabs.  So much for the Abraham Accords when the chips are down, exposing it as just another grift for Jared and Ivanka while they were in the WH.  Americans have lost their minds if they believe Biden is making things worst in this war.  Hopefully, this is another poll that has no meaning for the future election.  They were wrong in 2019.

Beerman said:

The deflection aside, what exactly do you mean by the Republican's "conduct during this war"?

More interesting poll numbers....ouch:

"Among Arab Americans, Biden's fall has been particularly pronounced. Support among the traditionally staunch Democratic voter base has plummeted from 59% to 17%, according to polling released this week by the Arab American Institute."

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/us-president-biden-s-handling-of-israel-hamas-war-horrific-says-jewish-american-activist/3041269

 

The fall in Arab support is a given and not surprising as many of them come from countries such as Iran that are enemies.

There are concerns that Michigan will be lost because of the Arab disapproval of Biden and the sizable Arab community there.  I don't think they will vote for the "let's have a total ban on Muslim immigration to America"  Trump but clearly they are not supportive of Biden.

There could be a scenario where Michigan going to Trump could win him the election.

I'm off to work but many polls for decades have shown a riff between Democrat support for Palestine over Israel and the opposite from Republicans.  This is definitely manifesting itself today.

  I think it is a deflection, but it's an important point that Republicans are polling support for Israel moreso than Democrats, which aligns them with Biden.  I think this is why even though they support Israel the Republican New Organization Fox News is reporting anti-Biden protests because what do they do?  Do they support Biden's support of Netanyahu or make him look bad, such as posting his falling poll numbers and internal protests.

The US clearly is aware support for Israel has a limit.

"The problem for [Israel] is that the criticism is getting louder, not just among their detractors, but from their best friends,” one senior administration official said."

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/02/politics/biden-administration-warning-israel-gaza-civilians/index.html

Beerman said:

Indeed.  

Is silence a form of propaganda?  Can't even find a mention of the 82000 pages of emails in the NYT or WaPo.

It seems like it would be newsworthy in light of a congressional investigation, if for no other reason. 

Sure, refusal to publish current events for a political agenda would be a form of propaganda.  That was part of the strategy Fox News used as they lied to their audience about the election and Trump.  

Not all media agree that the 5400 emails obtained from the National Archives are that news worthy when compared to other topics and current events.  Everyone knows that the Republican House is investigating Biden and his son as their top priority for committee work already, that's not news.  Legal production of documents in response to a FOIA request is not news.  Evidence of crimes would be news.  

I know a number of Palestinians, having worked and lived in southeast Michigan.  It's easy to listen to their stories and feel empathy with the individual suffering that accompanies the politics of that region.  

This type of reporting fuels the animosity. 

toomuchbaloney said:

I know a number of Palestinians, having worked and lived in southeast Michigan.  It's easy to listen to their stories and feel empathy with the individual suffering that accompanies the politics of that region.  

This type of reporting fuels the animosity. 

It certainly does.  Netanyahu and his black hat croneys have to go.  None of this ground bombing is solving the problem of the tunnels.  They'd have to flatten the earth 10 feet to solve that and they can't do that without causing more suffering.  Both sides are suffering.  Gaza just suffers more because of the density but some of that is self-created because of Gaza having one of the highest birth rates in the world (just like the most Orthodox of the Jews).  

Beerman said:

Indeed.  

Is silence a form of propaganda?  Can't even find a mention of the 82000 pages of emails in the NYT or WaPo.

It seems like it would be newsworthy in light of a congressional investigation, if for no other reason. 

Here's the New York Times article about it.

Quote

When House Republicans pressing to impeach President Biden discovered that the government had redacted emails in which he had used aliases to communicate while he was vice president, they demanded to see the full copies, alleging a cover-up of explosive evidence of wrongdoing.

Even Democrats were alarmed about the content of the correspondence, Representative James R. Comer, Republican of Kentucky and the chairman of the Oversight Committee, claimed in media interviews, saying they might link the president to Hunter Biden's business dealings in Ukraine.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/22/us/politics/biden-emails-alias.html#:~:text=Biden used a series of,that he abused his office.

I can't access WaPo but they did report on it 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/09/06/james-comer-claims-that-biden-pseudonym-email-was-code-thats-nonsense/

Time Magazine, Newsweek, PBS all have articles about it.  As always conservatives do want stories to be bigger than they are, but cry foul when we make stories bigger than they are.  

As always I'm not listening to the squawks coming out of the likes of Beorbert and New York Post that are making a big deal out of it this week.   I'm waiting on the sidelines waiting for the truth.   But the silence is not deafening from where I'm sitting.  

Beerman said:

There is more recent news this week of which they have not reported as far as I can tell..  I posted a link to it earlier.  It's 82000 pages under pseudonyms.  Which averages 110 pages a day over his 8 years as VP.

Let us know when there is evidence of law breaking, it sounds like you are following this closely.