President Biden thread

18 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Did you have some thoughts about that Fox news story? Is hypocrisy the sum total?

What is it that makes Fox News not credible? 

4 minutes ago, Cclm said:

What is it that makes Fox News not credible? 

The accuracy of their reporting is very mixed, that troubles their credibility.  The inflammatory language used in the reporting and especially in the abundant rhetoric and opinion segments reduces their credibility.  

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fox-news-bias/

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/fox-news-channel/

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/fox-news-media-bias

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

25 minutes ago, Beerman said:

No, not the crime of the century.  Just another example of hypocrisy, and that the rules aren't for the liberal elite class.

It is fun to see the excuses by those who would scream about Trump killing people if he did the same thing.  Such as, "he doesn't go out much so he probably forgot." Or, he took it off for a photo op.  As if he isn't already the most photographed person on the planet.  Anyway, under the circumstances that would be the time he SHOULD wear a mask if he knew he was being photographed.

What excuses?

Questions were asked and answered while noting that they should have been masked.  I, in fact, suggested the same...knowing that Trump supporters and political opportunists would use that image to their advantage, the Biden's should have masked.

Shrugs

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

No, not the crime of the century.  Just another example of hypocrisy, and that the rules aren't for the liberal elite class.

It is fun to see the excuses by those who would scream about Trump killing people if he did the same thing.  Such as, "he doesn't go out much so he probably forgot." Or, he took it off for a photo op.  As if he isn't already the most photographed person on the planet.  Anyway, under the circumstances that would be the time he SHOULD wear a mask if he knew he was being photographed.

I think if Trump didn't wear his mask in a restaurant it would barely be a blip "Trump had dinner (maskless)" after the past couple of years.  He held campaign rallies before the vaccine that had people maskless crowded in areas both indoors and outdoors.  These are the kinds of things that outraged people.  Him not wearing a mask somewhere would just be a given at this point compared to his past behavior.  In my opinion.

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-donald-trump-ap-top-news-infectious-diseases-politics-d39bd670e8a280b6283abcdfc91d4794

The liberal elite are held to a different standard and I understand why and I understand why it's a big deal.

1 hour ago, Cclm said:

What is it that makes Fox News not credible? 

When it comes to their reporting of the news, I find them pretty credible.  Clearly the have a Republican and anti-Biden agenda.  That is plain as day.  It doesn't mean their stories aren't truthful.  It just means that they aren't necessarily balanced as they claim.

Obviously their talk show hosts like Tucker Carlson and Hannity aren't the news. 

I give them a pass for being sensational sometimes in their headlines with terms like "crisis", "chaos"...etc.  

Sometimes they spin.  I remember posting an article about their lead story one day about "New York City on fire and in chaos" that wasn't covered anywhere else I could find.  It was about some protest that barely got a blip elsewhere.  But they also had an anti-Cuomo agenda at the time.

Their lead story as I write  is about Biden's "chaotic and deadly" Afghanistan withdrawal being investigated.  Probably an honest story and the withdrawal was chaotic and deadly.  NPR and CNN are covering the death of Colin Powell as their lead story.  

2 hours ago, Beerman said:

What was the response to the question?

Fox News (of course) has that answer.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/psaki-biden-video-violating-mask-mandate-overly-focus-moments-time

1 hour ago, Tweety said:

When it comes to their reporting of the news, I find them pretty credible.  Clearly the have a Republican and anti-Biden agenda.  That is plain as day.  It doesn't mean their stories aren't truthful.  It just means that they aren't necessarily balanced as they claim.

Obviously their talk show hosts like Tucker Carlson and Hannity aren't the news. 

I give them a pass for being sensational sometimes in their headlines with terms like "crisis", "chaos"...etc.  

Sometimes they spin.  I remember posting an article about their lead story one day about "New York City on fire and in chaos" that wasn't covered anywhere else I could find.  It was about some protest that barely got a blip elsewhere.  But they also had an anti-Cuomo agenda at the time.

Their lead story as I write  is about Biden's "chaotic and deadly" Afghanistan withdrawal being investigated.  Probably an honest story and the withdrawal was chaotic and deadly.  NPR and CNN are covering the death of Colin Powell as their lead story.  

 

Whether Fox is credible or not, I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned a story covered by them but no other news media. 

It's got to a point in which all media is politically biased. I have found stories especially concerned with riots etc, are barely mentioned by liberal leaning news. Or police shootings that have subquenually been determined justified not updated at all. (Raychard Brooks, Jacob Blake). When before all the facts were out, these left leaning media had it plastered everywhere claiming police brutality. However when all the info comes put.....crickets.  Right leaning can be just as bad sometimes. 

This is worrisome because when our media outlets turn into political srews for their respective political position , it takes away the accountability to our elected leaders. The media is supposed to report stories and hold elected official accountable. Does anyone remember when the news stations would fight to be the first to report a scandal or something bad a president did? Now it's seems like downplaying and fluff pieces or all out avoidance of reporting  anything negative towards whichever political agenda they subscribe to. 

I often have to watch Fox to get any news on some topics. (I still watch/read other news sources and make my opinions myself). 

2 hours ago, Cclm said:

Whether Fox is credible or not, I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned a story covered by them but no other news media. 

It's got to a point in which all media is politically biased. I have found stories especially concerned with riots etc, are barely mentioned by liberal leaning news. Or police shootings that have subquenually been determined justified not updated at all. (Raychard Brooks, Jacob Blake). When before all the facts were out, these left leaning media had it plastered everywhere claiming police brutality. However when all the info comes put.....crickets.  Right leaning can be just as bad sometimes. 

This is worrisome because when our media outlets turn into political srews for their respective political position , it takes away the accountability to our elected leaders. The media is supposed to report stories and hold elected official accountable. Does anyone remember when the news stations would fight to be the first to report a scandal or something bad a president did? Now it's seems like downplaying and fluff pieces or all out avoidance of reporting  anything negative towards whichever political agenda they subscribe to. 

I often have to watch Fox to get any news on some topics. (I still watch/read other news sources and make my opinions myself). 

I didn't mean to say there are stories covered by them and not other outlets.  I meant what is headline news to them isn't headlines news on other outlets.  It's covered, but just not to the sensationalism that Fox News thinks is a major story.

I think the issue is that some issues are more important to conservative outlets like Fox.  A neighborhood arson even turns into the "city is on fire". It's not that it wasn't covered by any other outlets, it wasn't given the same level of sensationalism.  

Often I hear "the media on the left is silent" about such and such, when that just isn't true, it's that they aren't as loud.  I do think they are doing a fair job at reporting stories and holding politicians accountable.  For example, liberal leaning Washington Post is covering the story of Maxine Waters paying her daughter, but it's a much bigger store on Fox and the conservative press.  

Yes, I remember a time when media rushed to get a scandal on the President, they still do don't they?  They report every single infraction hoping to create a scandal.  What's different than the old days is we do have biased networks and we have social media judgement.  You have the guy on Twitter demanding an explanation from Biden about the mask scandal and you have others saying "meh...next scandal".  But I still think the press watches the President carefully.

I think that Fox takes the lead with having a political agenda because of their large audience and they are blatant about it.  MSNBC might be the liberal equivalent.  Other sources like NPR and BBC to me don't seem to have that agenda.  

4 hours ago, Cclm said:

Whether Fox is credible or not, I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned a story covered by them but no other news media. 

It's got to a point in which all media is politically biased. I have found stories especially concerned with riots etc, are barely mentioned by liberal leaning news. Or police shootings that have subquenually been determined justified not updated at all. (Raychard Brooks, Jacob Blake). When before all the facts were out, these left leaning media had it plastered everywhere claiming police brutality. However when all the info comes put.....crickets.  Right leaning can be just as bad sometimes. 

This is worrisome because when our media outlets turn into political srews for their respective political position , it takes away the accountability to our elected leaders. The media is supposed to report stories and hold elected official accountable. Does anyone remember when the news stations would fight to be the first to report a scandal or something bad a president did? Now it's seems like downplaying and fluff pieces or all out avoidance of reporting  anything negative towards whichever political agenda they subscribe to. 

 

Sure, like the so-called main stream media or liberal press didn't shower the former guy pages and pages, and hours and hours of coverage, giving him the attention that he craves so much. He reveled in any mention of his name or broadcast image whether the story was critical or praising. He almost seemed to enjoy the critical pieces more so that he could just add to his grievances and show his cult just how picked upon he was. 

That same media tries to create the same sort of lurid coverage for the current guy, but it's a struggle. If only Biden shake down a foreign leader, buddy up to a dictator, call a woman a fat pig, or at least call an undeveloped country populated with brown people an $%!# hole country. 

13 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

 Would you agree that it matters most to the people who are not interested in mitigation through masking or vaccination?  That's why the stories get published.  Some folks are really titillated by that type of reporting.  

The rest of us wear our masks and sometimes take them off in some settings.  I had mine off in a mall last weekend for a few minutes.  

The Biden's should have worn their masks knowing that this was just political ammunition for the right wing social wars. 

I actually don't think it matters to the right wingers. They would have found something or someone to complain about. It's their rai·son d'ê·tre if we are being honest!