President Biden thread

Imported labor looks like companies flying in crews from Texas to work Alaska oil fields where they live in company housing.   It looks like fisheries seeking out of state employees because they don't pay a liveable wage for the state of business location. It might look like the hospitality industry or the agricultural and meat processing industries.  

5 hours ago, Beerman said:

Exactly.   They are coming because he was elected.  And, he went immediately to work to reverse Trump's policies, just as he said he would. Actions are more powerful then a couple of statements, which are too little too late, in which he said "don't come now, come later". 

Did you read the axios articles?  117,000 unaccompanied minors expected.   6000 unaccompanied 16 and 17 year olds last month.  

I'm surprised you don't see this as a crisis.

I didn't read the articles, NPR and other news organizations are covering the problem as a great challenge to Biden and the US, so I am aware of the issue and it's not that I don't care and don't see it as an issue.   Even Democrats in Texas are sounding an alarm.

I'm sure you know how I feel about Trump.  Despite the Caravans and knowing many of them are saying they are coming because of Biden, it's not  an issue that would make me vote for Trump or regret my vote.  I do acknowledge that it's Biden's America that is more attractive.   Hopefully our allies are looking at us more positively too.

But yes, Biden has created this crisis and it wasn't necessary for him to do so. Obama had his crisis in 2014 and Trump had his own border crisis in 2019 but this is Biden's.  Trump got a handle on it and of course had covid to help out.  It's a mess.

2 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Imported labor looks like companies flying in crews from Texas to work Alaska oil fields where they live in company housing.   It looks like fisheries seeking out of state employees because they don't pay a liveable wage for the state of business location. It might look like the hospitality industry or the agricultural and meat processing industries.  

The beaches here are starting to thrive  In the community where I live there are many jobs and even some projects on delay for lack of labor.  Many of these positions such as hospitality housekeepers are heavily dependent on legal immigrant labor.

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2021/03/02/need-a-job--pinellas-beach-businesses-need-to-hire-employees

The US Economy bettered expectations and added 379,000 jobs in February.  Things are looking up!

5 minutes ago, Tweety said:

The beaches here are starting to thrive  In the community where I live there are many jobs and even some projects on delay for lack of labor.  Many of these positions such as hospitality housekeepers are heavily dependent on legal immigrant labor.

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2021/03/02/need-a-job--pinellas-beach-businesses-need-to-hire-employees

The US Economy bettered expectations and added 379,000 jobs in February.  Things are looking up!

Yes.  The absence of Trump's chaos, constant lies and gaslighting in daily politics is like having a weight lifted.  

5 hours ago, Beerman said:

No, the story says room for 2000 more is being made.  20,000 is what will be needed.

My solution would have been not to elect someone who we all knew would exacerbate the problem.

Ah, liberal economics.  I'm betting those houses being built arent sitting empty are they?  Unless, of course it's in a location where liberal covid policies have wrecked the local economy. Housing prices are a result of what people are willing to pay for it.  

What makes you think those construction workers are being imported?  Oh, wait.   You say they need somewhere to work when they get here.  So, they arent being imported?  So, how in your mind are they responsible for high housing costs?

Our laborers come from the US, not out of the country.  Trump despises my governor but housing is booming here ....off the charts booming.  A scarce commodity is always more expensive.  If contruction workers were competing for these jobs, labor costs would be lower.  They don't NEED anywhere to work when they get here.  They come for a specific building and move on.  When we completely open up, we don't have enough  servers or bar keeps to keep up with the tourists unless the employer provides housing for them.  Restaurants  have had to stop serving dinner as often.   I've only been here 6 years and couldn't afford to buy my house today.  I'd much prefer to work in an ICU here than in Florida or Texas.  So much less Covid.

4 hours ago, Beerman said:

I believe I said that above.  He got his Costco size package of executive order pens, and started reversing Trumps policies.

How would you explain reemergence of masses at the border?

That's the thing about Executive Orders, they are specific to each President, it's fairly unusual for a President to leave office yet their EOs are still in effect.  This is why pre-President Trump criticized the use of EOs to establish policy, calling them "power grabs" and "a basic disaster".

But the only EO I'm aware of having to do with immigration was the EO directing CBP to leave unaccompanied children on the Mexico side of the border while they await processing, leaving them highly susceptible to various forms of abuse.

And the "masses at the border" never went away, migrations to the border increase every year at this time preceding seasonal migrant jobs and because it's favorable weather to walk across Mexico.

Personally, I'm not in favor of dealing with the issue of countries with inhumane conditions by taking in entire populations, I think it makes more sense to do what we can to alleviate the root problem, within reason.  And while I'm not a big fan the US being the world's policeman, the issues in Central American countries that are causing people to flee are largely our doing, so we bear at least some responsibility to fix what we broke.

I am confident that the Biden immigration and border policy will, at minimum, seek to remove any and all punitive and cruel interventions implemented by Trump or Sessions.  Cruelty was a cornerstone of the Trump administration so Biden has his job cut out for him. 

49 minutes ago, Beerman said:

From one of the Axios articles I linked above:

"Today, the president will be told the number of migrant kids is on pace to exceed the all-time record by 45% — and the administration doesn't have enough beds."

From one of the Axios articles "During the surge in 2019, government watchdogs found severe overcrowding and concerning sanitation, health and safety issues at the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol intake facilities, which are special concerns for children."

It's a shame it wasn't fixed then and this was a time when children were expelled quickly.  It's can't be a good situation forthcoming.  It stated that even 2019 is nothing like the numbers we're seeing now. 

2 minutes ago, Tweety said:

From one of the Axios articles "During the surge in 2019, government watchdogs found severe overcrowding and concerning sanitation, health and safety issues at the U.S. Customs and Border Patrol intake facilities, which are special concerns for children."

It's a shame it wasn't fixed then and this was a time when children were expelled quickly.  It's can't be a good situation forthcoming.

No, it can't.  But at least Biden will try to treat them wth dignity and compassion. 

52 minutes ago, Beerman said:

From one of the Axios articles I linked above:

"Today, the president will be told the number of migrant kids is on pace to exceed the all-time record by 45% — and the administration doesn't have enough beds."

The number of unaccompanied minors coming to the southern border increased every year under Trump, does that mean it's his fault they were coming here?

I'm still not sure what policy or other action from Biden is supposedly responsible for this.  The explanation from the right doesn't seem to get more specific than it's simply because he's president, which is an odd thing to admit to since the significance of that would seem to be that the desire to come here had been hampered because we had a leader too reminiscent of the third world dictators these people were fleeing. 

It's moved up to the lead story on Fox with at least seven articles about it alone.  Republicans want a declaration of a national emergency at the border.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-biden-national-emergency-migrant-numbers

2 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

The number of unaccompanied minors coming to the southern border increased every year under Trump, does that mean it's his fault they were coming here?

I'm still not sure what policy or other action from Biden is supposedly responsible for this.  The explanation from the right doesn't seem to get more specific than it's simply because he's president, which is an odd thing to admit to since the significance of that would seem to be that the desire to come here had been hampered because we had a leader too reminiscent of the third world dictators these people were fleeing. 

This article on Politico sums up the case against Biden.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/03/bidens-unnecessary-border-crisis-473412