President Biden thread

7 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

No, it can't.  But at least Biden will try to treat them wth dignity and compassion. 

I think so and he is trying to open up more facilities.  It's going to be one of his first major challenges and Republicans and conservative media are poised to criticize any and all efforts and lay blame.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/05/politics/immigration-border-crowding-covid/index.html

1 minute ago, Tweety said:

I think so and he is trying to open up more facilities.  It's going to be one of his first major challenges and Republicans and conservative media are poised to criticize any and all efforts and lay blame.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/05/politics/immigration-border-crowding-covid/index.html

That's expected.  That's the purpose of conservative media in Trumplandia; push the party propaganda.  

15 minutes ago, Tweety said:

It's moved up to the lead story on Fox with at least seven articles about it alone.  Republicans want a declaration of a national emergency at the border.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-biden-national-emergency-migrant-numbers

This article on Politico sums up the case against Biden.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/03/03/bidens-unnecessary-border-crisis-473412

I don't agree with the opinion.  

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Trump overemphasized the importance of the border wall, and had a number of false starts at the border, most notoriously the “zero tolerance” policy that led to family separations. By the end, though, he had created an entirely reasonable system based on his lawful authorities to impose order at the border, while still allowing asylum seekers to apply for asylum in the U.S.

There is no good reason to rip up much of this arrangement, though that’s exactly what Biden has done.

No, I don't agree.  I think that glosses over the damage that Trump did.  Intentionally.

21 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Of course he is.  To what means?  To overload the immigration system, of course.  Meaning more will be let in while their case moves at a snail's pace through the system.  The end result being millions more in the country.

You've assumed nefarious intent "to overload the immigration system" with zero evidence. Thanks for your speculation based upon an assumption without foundation. 

1 hour ago, Beerman said:

Of course he is.  To what means?  To overload the immigration system, of course.  Meaning more will be let in while their case moves at a snail's pace through the system.  The end result being millions more in the country.

There will likely be aspects of Biden's immigration stance I don't agree with, but one thing I'm in favor of is that we're no longer following the Trump administration's massive slowdown and massive increase in cost of the deportation process.  

Trump came into office with a deportation backlog of 542,000, and yet left Biden with a backlog of 1,290,000, and somehow it's Biden that is slowing the deportation process?

The Trump administration's family separation policy functioned by pursuing a criminal court rather than civil court deportation process.  By pursuing criminal rather than civil charges, the administration had just cause to separate kids from their parents.  You might think there is reason to pursue criminal charges other than that it gives you an excuse to separate kids from their parents, but there isn't, using a criminal rather than civil court process has never been shown to reduce repeat attempts to enter the US illegally.  

Processing deportations in a federal court through the civil deportation process allows a court to process up to 50 deportations per day, where using criminal charges takes at least a day or two per case.  And on top of that, we're then stuck paying the imprisonment cost of more than 30k per year per illegal immigrant.  This is ironic since the complaint of the far right when it comes to illegal immigration is that Americans should have to pay to house and feed these people, yet that's exactly what far right policies have resulted in.  

That's a huge unnecessary cost just so some sadistic far right folks can get their jollies by separating little kids from their parents.

8 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You've assumed nefarious intent "to overload the immigration system" with zero evidence. Thanks for your speculation based upon an assumption without foundation. 

Yep, it's clear that's the message that the poster bought into and believes, that this is a deliberate plot to have an open door policy to let as he said "millions of people in".  

I wonder why Biden and liberals want millions of immigrants legal and illegal into the country especially what has been declared unsafe and unsanitary conditions.  Democrats in Texas are sounding the alarm, so it's not them.  I certainly don't want that either.  I wonder why Biden does?  Maybe the poster can tell us.

It doesn't make sense to allow millions an open door policy, it only adds fuel to the anti-Biden sentiment (although Cuomo is back on the headlines over at Fox with five stories) and will not serve him well.

Oh wait...future Democrats.  That has to be it.  Let them walk in, give them free stuff, and they will vote Democrat.  Got it.

57 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Yep.  Combined with Democrats efforts to get rid of voter ID laws in their new bill, it's pretty obvious, isn't it?

Sure...more assumptions based upon flawed and partisan opinions and inflammatory propaganda echoing around right wing media.  That type nonsense clearly keeps lots of Trump supporters very engaged and busy...as we see in these threads.  

Tell us more about these obvious attempts. Right now Alaska is cutting DMV services to rural and off road communities. Those citizens will have trouble obtaining needed ID and services because that's what our Trumpian conservative governor thinks is affordable. Should we assume that Dunleavy is just trying to keep them from voting? I mean, making broad assumptions and stating them as agreed upon fact is the model...right?

You always know it's going to be good when the white guy's concern about immigration begins somewhere with the fear of disease.  The same kind of guys that don't want to wear a mask during a pandemic surprisingly. 

Fear of groups of undesirable people spreading diseases was an issue in Germany in the 1930s too.  Are we not supposed to notice these similarities of attitude and behavior?

The Senate just passed the relief package for the American people!