Please help--nursing school straining family

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Hello,

I'm brand new to this board, having just registered after searching the Internet for some support for the families of nursing students. My wife, always the love of my life, is just finishing up her next-to-last semester of nursing school. I want to continue being as supportive as possible; we and our children discussed the demands of nursing school before she started, and all along we've seen this getting-RN-licensure thing as a family endeavor.

The strain on our relationship is becoming tremendous, though. My wife doesn't have time to do the things around the house that she'd like to do, which is fine with me; I don't mind doing them. No matter what I do, though, it's never quite exactly the way she would do it, and when she sees it, she explodes. I understand that she's tense and under a lot of pressure right now, but I and our kids are increasingly unhappy--which makes it hard to be available to the woman we all love dearly.

We just bought a house, and I did most of the packing and unpacking. Nothing was broken, but I seem to have packed things illogically. With a completely different kitchen than we had before, my wife was at first frustrated with how things were put away, so she pulled everything out and left it all over the counter. After a couple weeks went by during which she wasn't able to find time/energy/motivation to put the things away and repeatedly turned down offers for someone else to do it, she finally said that I could put the food away. I talked with her about where she wanted things, and she said she really didn't know, and feeling overwhelmed was part of the reason she hadn't done it yet. I got what input I could, and when she agreed I understood what she wanted, I spent several hours organizing the kitchen while she was away. She came home to tell me how stupid and illogical it all was, pulled things out again, threw them on the counter, and ran crying into the bedroom.

We didn't cook our turkey until today, because she didn't feel up to it and didn't want me to do it. Today she was stressed again, yelling at the kids for wanting to help or for not helping, and at me for doing everything wrong. She'd picked out a tangerine glazed turkey recipe she wanted to try, but then wasn't up to doing it; she broke down because we couldn't find where the tnagerine juicer had been packed, and it hadn't been found and put away yet. I prepared the turkey according to the recipe while she relaxed with a video game (much-needed down time; I don't begrudge her the game in the tiniest bit). I juiced the tangerines wrong. I put too many garlic cloves in the bird. I followed the recipe for the potato-rosemary rolls she wanted, but used powdered rosemary instead of dried crushed rosemary, which made the kitchen smell too strongly of rosemary, and the dough was the wrong texture so she said we should just throw the whole thing out instead of baking it. I wondered if our yeast was too old, and looked up how to test it, then followed the directions to the last detail; apparently, though, it wasn't right because I didn't use a thermometer to measure "lukewarm," used the wrong shaped cup to test the yeast in, and just generally did it all wrong. I've also been making our bed wrong, vacuuming wrong, loading the dishwasher wrong, doing the laundry wrong, etc.

I really do understand that she's under a lot of stress right now, and feels like all the demands of nursing school leave her feeling like there's not enough in her life that's within her sphere of control. Also, a couple months ago we went to a cookout with some of her classmates, and their families voiced frustration and difficulty with the strains nursing school placed on their relationships. One suggested that the university should offer a support group for the spouses of nursing students. Beyond agreeing vaguely that it's "difficult," though, I didn't (and wouldn't) say anything about my wife or our personal relationship; I don't believe in that kind of gossiping.

I love my wife. Going to nursing school, working (about 8 hours/week), and being part of a family is a pretty big load. At the same time, I'm working, too, and attending school long-distance to finish my MBA in health care management. I also do almost all the parenting and other house/home upkeep right now. I don't mind doing these things

I'm hoping that someone here can offer some insight into the stresses of the last half-year of nursing school, and how other spouses have both coped themselves and supported their nursing students. What strategies have helped marriages survive this difficult period? What can I do to ease the strain on my wife so that she can feel happier with her home life? How can I help???

NursingSchoolWife

Not only counseling, but it may be beneficial to have a low dose of Paxil or some other anti-anxiety medication. I fear that what she is doing to your family may not be able to be repaired. I sometimes see myself getting into that groove and have to just take a day for family time and knock myself out of it. I am also on Zoloft to help with pain from IBS and the anxiety that causes it/goes with it. I find it helping tremendously.

Good luck to you! Let us know how it goes!

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.

Will you marry me? I'm starting work on my bachelor's degree next month and could use a little help. I won't yell or snap at you, I promise. Just a little light humor sorry.

I agree, she isn't coping with the stress in an appropriate manner. Many wives/mothers/students made it through school without that kind of drama, so blaming the stress of nursing school just isn't quite it. She must feel totally out of control of everything in her life and trying to maintain it in a little distorted way.

Sounds like you're doing the best that you can do to support her. You need to let her know that you and your family need a little support while supporting her. Communication is the key. Counseling isn't a bad idea either, but she probably isn't going to go for that because she's too busy and stressed out.

Hang in there. :)

Here's a way to measure a possible source of "school" stress.

Ask how many new students start each semester and how many reach graduation. And how many reach graduation without repeating a semester.

My school for example weeds out students that they think will not pass the nclex first try and has only 1/3 of students reach graduation. Stressful unhappy place to study nursing; I'm hope to escape to another school.

Just a thought... it may not be appropriate to ask... how is she doing in school? Is she at least passing? Another question that came to mind is that does she still want to be a nurse?

-Dan

Specializes in CV Surgery Step-down.

My husband is just like you, and has been doing a great job w/ the house/kids/work. I tend to get stressed before clinicals (no stress in the classroom) and start to act bizzare right about now--two days before the actual clinical. On Monday afternoon, when I come home about 2 pm and start the next 10 hours of paperwork/careplanning I get extremely uptight w/tears and all. He just knows to LEAVE ME ALONE and give me the room I need to have my own pity party. The feeling of anxiety sometimes overwhelms me, though I'm thinking of revisiting my friend, Zoloft. Regular exercise works great, too!

Just a thought... it may not be appropriate to ask... how is she doing in school? Is she at least passing? Another question that came to mind is that does she still want to be a nurse?

-Dan

She's doing *very* well so far--straight A's except for one A-, and president of the SNA. I'm incredibly proud of all she's done, to be honest. And yes, she still wants to be a nurse, specifically to go on to be a CNM; I know the med-surg hospital work she's been doing as a student nurse isn't what she likes best.

Thank you! Your suggestions (and the others) are very encouraging--especially what you said about focusing on my wife instead of the chores that need doing.

Since her vented frustration often seems to be about the chores, I've been running nuts trying to keep everything done to her standards so that she wouldn't have anything to worry about. Your comment made me realize that maybe, if the chores aren't *ever* good enough, then maybe they're not "it" after all. I'm going to try focusing on her instead, giving her both private time at home and whatever romance she seems ready to accept (she's very practical, while I like writing silly love notes to stick in with sandwiches and so forth; we've always had to find the balance that's comfortable for us both).

Money isn't going to let us have a weekend away, or let her go away on her own for a weekend, although I think that's a wonderful suggestion if we could afford it right now. Money being tight (because we just bought the house) is part of the stress, so spending extra would be more stressful.

I'm also going to try to find out what free counseling might be available, maybe through her school . . . unless she were to go full-time at work, which she can't right now with school, she doesn't have insurance that would cover the counseling. I'd be happy to go with her. (For that matter, I don't believe that stresses exist in a vacuum, so I really want to figure out what I'm doing that's not helping so I can change. My wife is an intelligent, compassionate, wonderful person overall, so I have to believe that any difficulties are as much my "fault" as hers anyway. She wasn't like this before nursing school, and she says it's the stress of nursing school, and I believe that. I also believe that we can survive this . . . I just need to know how! ;)

Thank you again for the specific suggestions. I'm going to find some nice relaxing things she likes--a rented movie, maybe, and a board game--and try to give her a stress-free special evening. I'll let you know how it goes.

Thank you also for listening. I *really* appreciate everyone who took the time to reply! What a wonderful forum!

Well first let me say - you are JUST what a nursing student NEEDS!! sounds like you are a loving, supportive and simply wonderful guy - she is blessed to have you.

Nursing school is so stressful - and moving house on top of that. She just needs a break. she may also be a little depressed. My suggestion is firstly to see if you can get her to go to the doctor with you - she may well need some anti-depressants.

One of the best things you can do for her is to regularly take the kids out so that she can study quietly at home. She may relax somewhat if she can depend on regular quiet study time. I sure know that I do.

Remind her of how far she has come and how wonderfully she has done. She is on the home stretch now - that is an exhausting time for EVERYONE.

If she has some holidays coming up, why not plan to have the kids minded and plan to take her away for the weekend or even overnight if that's all you can manage. My lovely husband took me away to a hotel after my last exam - we just bummed around in bathrobes, had a spa, a couple of bottles of wine, ordered room service, watched movies on TV and SLEPT. It was just wonderful and oh so refreshing!

Another lovely thing my dh does for me is when I've been at a long day at uni - the busiest day of the week usually, he will SMS me on my cell phone and tell me that we are going out for dinner as a family and that I don't have to worry about cooking. It's a pleasant relief when the day has just been too long. Or he might simply get the kids to make cheese on toast for dinner and give me a foot massage with a nice glass of wine before I have to start studying again for the night. All of these little things make the world of difference.

No matter how upset she gets and how little she seems to understand it, just your constant reminder that you ARE on her side and that you DO support her will register with her. She will feel it deep down and it will help. The fact that she lashes out at you indicates that she feels SAFE with you, and that is a BIG thing when it feels like the world is on your shoulders.

Hang in there - you're doing wonderfully. Don't concentrate so much on the jobs that need doing. Concentrate on HER. The rest will fall into place :-)

Specializes in Med-surg > LTC > HH >.
Your wife is abusing you and just using Nursing school as an excuse? Would she be any better if she weren't in school? These are some things to think about. Maybe it is time to reevaluate your relationship. Counseling is in order.
AMEN, I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO LOSE MY MIND!!!!!!!!!!! Yes nursing school is horribly tough, it can eat you alive. I too was a mom of two little ones and a husband on swingshift(days, nights, and mid-nights). :p I was greatful for everything my husband and children did. Sometimes that meant wearing a shirt my husband shrunk or eating some of the worst spag. of my life and smiling and saying uummm. Your wife is being very selfish and I would tell her if she doesn't like the way I've done something, then to do it herself. :imbar She is very lucky to have a helpful family while she goes through nursing school and on the other hand she isn't completely paralyzed of doing anything herself. Some of my best study sessions were when I'd study for 45 minutes get up throw in a load of clothes, wash a few dishes, go back to the books, and repeat. Sometimes after you have had your head in the books a while, it does a whirl of good to put your mind else where for 20 minutes and you come back re-freshed. Don't let your spouse act like a toddler, and it sounds like that is exactly what she is doing. I bet if you start doing less housework, she'll realize how lucky to have you do it your way than no way at all. Best of luck to ya, and good for u and your children for helping mom out.:)

I feel for your whole family. It truly is the whole family that is making these sacrifices, not only the student, and you seem so loving and supportive. My only advice would be to keep doing what you're doing and try to pamper yourself some in the meantime too, because you as well may become burned out. Good luck to your family and I hope things get better for all of you very soon.:)

I don't believe we know this lady well enough to know if she is being selfish. Stress affects different people in different ways, and we're not all from the same cookie cutter when it comes to how we respond to it.

When I look back on the last 16 years of my marriage there have been times where each of us have needed a little extra grace and understanding. It's just part of marriage - sometimes it's the husband under stress, sometimes the wife, sometimes the kids...there are lots of "shoulds" during those times, but the reality most of us KNOW we don't handle every stressful situation perfectly. And if there is anyone who thinks they do I'd love to have that recipe! lol

I still say keep on working on it :-) Strong marriages are made when each partner has a soft place to land during the times they need it most, and most of all, a BEST FRIEND to lean on when the day is done. Just my 2 cents...

Just with the issue of money troubles - during the more "lean" times in our marriage (like when we've just bought a new house..I hear ya there!) we've had to be more creative! Here are a few things I thought of!

* Put the kids to bed early and have a "quick date". When someone is under lots of stress with school it can be extra pressure to feel like they have to be romantic ALL evening! So the "quick date" consists of a 30 min episode of your favorite TV show, a glass of cheap wine, a snuggle on the couch and maybe something like brushing her hair, giving her a shoulder massage etc. Then back to the study!

* Offer to help her study - my dh HATES helping me so when he offers I know it's a big sacrifice! If she has flashcards, quiz her on them. Or just offer to quiz her out of the chapter she is studying.

* Set your alarm for ten minutes earlier than normal each morning - then use that 10 mins to lay together and talk. Let her vent about the stresses of the upcoming day, hold her hand and tell her it's gonna be OK.

* Make a calender and mark down all the important upcoming events - like exams and tests, and assignments coming due. Then tell her that you're planning to take the kids out for some "Daddy time" for a few hours in the days leading up to those times. If she is anything like me she's feeling REALLY guilty about having to neglect the kids - it makes the world of difference to know that the kids are having FUN with their Dad!! And the bonus is that you and the kids will have a better relationship for it.

* Foster your OWN friendships too -- she's probably feeling guilty about neglecting you too!! And for being mean when she doesn't want to :-( So it can be nice to know that your dh has buddies of his own that he can go visit after the kids go to bed. But a word of warning -- be careful about inviting buddies to YOUR place during very stressful periods!

* Learn a few "speciality" dishes - quick and easy things that you can make in a hurry on nights where cooking is all too hard. And institute a weekly "fend for yourself" night mealtime, where everyone in the family makes their own dinner - even if it's a bowl of ice-cream, who cares???

* Finally -- don't allow yourself to be mistreated. It's not good for YOU and it's not good for HER -- most importantly it's not good for your marriage :-) When tempers flare and she treats you in a way you would not allow yourself to be treated in any other arena, give her a peck on the forehead and tell her how much you love her, but that you love her too much to let her get into the habit of treating you badly. Then gather up the kids and go for a walk. Don't be mad at her when you get home - just tell her you understand that it's coming from stress BUT that you won't allow yourself or your kids to be abused. Then DROP it and move on. Eventually she'll realise what a hell of a guy you are and how worthy of her respect that she is!

Cheers!

Specializes in ER, ICU, Nursing Education, LTC, and HHC.

Wow kathy...

That was well said!

Specializes in Med/Surg..

To the Original Poster - WOW, if we all had husbands like you, Nursing School would be a breeze. My husband works full-time and I always feel a little guilty asking him to help out with cleaning/laundry, etc. on his days off. Months ago I said something about the way he did laundry - his reply was - if you ask me for help with something and then complain about the way I did it - I just might not do it again (nuff said). I absolutely appreciate anything him and the kids do to help me out around the house. It's a wonderful feeling to know I can go in my room and study and he's handling dinner and helping the kids with homework, etc. - a big load off my mind. I don't care what he makes for dinner - as long as it's edible and the kids are fed...

You sound like the "Martha Stewart of Husbands" and perhaps she doesn't realize how Great she has it. Yes Nursing School is very hard, incredibly stressful, etc., but a lot of things in life are hard - the worst thing we can do is alienate our loved ones who are trying to help us through it. I agree with the other posters who suggested that there is something else going on with your wife. I consider myself a perfectionist about certain things (mainly school & work). One of my Instructors noticed this in me (getting mad at myself if I don't do everything perfectly). She said it's a good trait to have as a Nurse - because you aren't satisfied unless the job is done right. However, if there is a little dust on my furniture or the laundry isn't folded perfectly - I certainly don't have a meltdown.

I don't know your wife, but just from what you wrote, it sounds like she is obsessive/compulsive. For her to get upset that you used a powdered herb in a meal instead of a fresh one and you didn't put things away in the kitchen exactly as she would have - was wrong. Most of us would be thrilled to death if our husbands did even a small part of what you say you do around the house - you really sound amazing. You obviously love her a great deal to be looking for ways to help her. I'd say some sort of counseling is needed for her - stress and depression can do a job on you. Best of luck to you. Sounds like she's got a wonderful Husband...

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