Pelosi Blasts GOP Leadership's Underreaction To Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's Remarks

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So, Marjorie Taylor is nothing but a troll, I don't think she believes a single dag on crazy thing she says, she just knows that if she acts worse than trump that the republican party will help ascent to power. What disturbs me about this article is that Pelosi feels that there is threat within congress and plots to kill certain members. Every day I understand these republican trumpists less and less, they say they want "healing", no they want war and anarchy like it's the wild wild west. 

4 minutes ago, TheMoonisMyLantern said:

Currently republicans and trump supporters are the same thing except for like 5 congressmen that said crap about him the other day in the news. 

Well, whether that is true or not is a completely different conversation then your false claim that most Trump supporters are Christian. 

 

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22 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Three strikes.  Your sources indicate most Christians lean Republican.  That is far different then "most who follow people like Trump and Marjorie are Christian."

Beerman, you have to understand that when people write, you have to understand context and they expect you to understand, that you need to know the subject matter enough to extrapolate when necessary. Lots of statements are generalized but you can extract what you require from the context. 

You cannot expect discussions or conversations to be nailed down with every point of view explicitly covered. 

This is why QAnon and Trump have taken over the GOP. Liberals and Dems extrapolate from the discussion and do not take things LITERALLY. We use common sense and education to fill in the blanks and deal with the salient points of the discussion. 

You couldn't fool us with babies being kidnapped out of pizza shop by lizard people who eats them or solar lasers causing forest fires or using a marker to demonstrate how the hurricane suddenly changed paths or that Obama was born in Kenya etc. Because, we read and will evaluate the information from many different angles to determine the validity and do not literally believe stupidity, when we hear it! 

Surely you apply the same practices to your own life? If a character is repeatedly dodgy, their behaviors and statements are often abnormal, would you get into a business relationship with them? 

So when a preacher, or Cruz or Majorie Taylor, McConnell or Trump says something, because of their previous mendacities, WE DON'T BELIEVE THEM and are deeply suspicious of anything concerning them. They lack CREDIBILITY! 

HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY TRUST  religious figures who can justify getting into bed with Trump? Their values are opposite supposedly to his, but he can deliver a few things they want. By that logic they should accept money from Escobar etc. You can understand what I am trying to say, right? 

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31 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Three strikes.  Your sources indicate most Christians lean Republican.  That is far different then "most who follow people like Trump and Marjorie are Christian."

The quote more accurately suggests that they  "claim" to be christian...their claims aren't very credible. 

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4 minutes ago, Beerman said:

Well, whether that is true or not is a completely different conversation then your false claim that most Trump supporters are Christian. 

 

So the multiple Evangelical endorsements of Trump over the past four years, Trump pandered to the Republican party's social issues his entire term. Can you really tell me that you don't think the Republican party, Trump, and Christianity? 

Correct my ill assumption what religion do most of Trumps followers ascribe themselves to? Hinduism?

6 minutes ago, Curious1997 said:

Beerman, you have to understand that when people write, you have to understand context and they expect you to understand, that you need to know the subject matter enough to extrapolate when necessary. Lots of statements are generalized but you can extract what you require from the context. 

You cannot expect discussions or conversations to be nailed down with every point of view explicitly covered. 

This is why QAnon and Trump have taken over the GOP. Liberals and Dems extrapolate from the discussion and do not take things LITERALLY. We use common sense and education to fill in the blanks and deal with the salient points of the discussion. 

You couldn't fool us with babies being kidnapped out of pizza shop by lizard people who eats them or solar lasers causing forest fires or using a marker to demonstrate how the hurricane suddenly changed paths or that Obama was born in Kenya etc. Because, we read and will evaluate the information from many different angles to determine the validity and do not literally believe stupidity, when we hear it! 

Surely you apply the same practices to your own life? If a character is repeatedly dodgy, their behaviors and statements are often abnormal, would you get into a business relationship with them? 

So when a preacher, or Cruz or Majorie Taylor, McConnell or Trump says something, because of their previous mendacities, WE DON'T BELIEVE THEM and are deeply suspicious of anything concerning them. They lack CREDIBILITY! 

HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY TRUST  religious figures who can justify getting into bed with Trump? Their values are opposite supposedly to his, but he can deliver a few things they want. By that logic they should accept money from Escobar etc. You can understand what I am trying to say, right? 

Thank you, well spoken.

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It probably isn't true that "most Trump supporters including those in Congress are Christian".  70 million people voted for him and they probably reflect a variety of faiths, or like a lot of people are agnostic and don't go to church. 
 

We can nitpick the fine details, but white evangelicals certainly have made their support for Trump loud and clear to the point that they are a force to be reckoned with.  It seems some politicians don't want to rock their boat and lose their support, or be branded as not Christian.  

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/us/how-white-evangelical-christians-fused-with-trump-extremism.html

As a gay man they have long been Public Enemy #1 to me as they have fought to make the Bible the constitution and challenge my right to exist (remember I'm 61 and have faced plenty of discrimination).  They have failed and society has grown, but now I think they've gone off the deep end and have sacrificed some of their faith in throwing their support behind Trump who clearly is not a Christian and has violated Christian ideals in so many ways.  This turn of events have baffled me.   Where they go from here is going to be interesting.

 

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2 minutes ago, Tweety said:

It probably isn't true that "most Trump supporters including those in Congress are Christian".  70 million people voted for him and they probably reflect a variety of faiths, or like a lot of people are agnostic and don't go to church. 
 

We can nitpick the fine details, but white evangelicals certainly have made their support for Trump loud and clear to the point that they are a force to be reckoned with.  It seems some politicians don't want to rock their boat and lose their support, or be branded as not Christian.  

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/us/how-white-evangelical-christians-fused-with-trump-extremism.html

As a gay man they have long been Public Enemy #1 to me as they have fought to make the Bible the constitution and challenge my right to exist (remember I'm 61 and have faced plenty of discrimination).  They have failed and society has grown, but now I think they've gone off the deep end and have sacrificed some of their faith in throwing their support behind Trump who clearly is not a Christian and has violated Christian ideals in so many ways.  This turn of events have baffled me.   Where they go from here is going to be interesting.

 

Where evangelicals go from here is, indeed, an interesting question.  From my vantage point it appears that they are headed right down the rabbit hole. 

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1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Where evangelicals go from here is, indeed, an interesting question.  From my vantage point it appears that they are headed right down the rabbit hole. 

I think they are deep into the rabbit hole and are drinking copious amounts from the bottle of hypocrisy, having their own tea party and following the mad hatter himself! 

People are gullible enough, that even the religious ones who have their own Wonderland, can so easily be persuaded to follow any false prophets, leaving you to wonder how can they be so weak and unstable, that any old windbag can make them abandon their ideals and beliefs so easily! The thing they believe in so adamantly that they are willing to kill to make you believe it too. Yet, so weak spiritually and psychologically, to be actually, almost empty husks, to be filled by any old charlatan who comes along with some shiny objects and beads. 

They are just so insecure in their own beliefs, with not the slightest modicum of morality or ethics that really the only governing factor appears to be HYPOCRISY as their most significant trait.

*Money is the root of all evil, but let's worship money first, especially those who use it for the most evil purposes.

*Abortion is bad because all life is valued, except when we have to murder others who are not like us. 

*Judge not least ye be judged, unless their politics or skin color or religion is different from theirs. 

One would surely conclude that HYPOCRISY is actually the religion! 

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7 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

The quote more accurately suggests that they  "claim" to be christian...their claims aren't very credible. 

True, there is nothing Jesus-like about White Supremacy, which is the true definition of Trumpism and QAnon, which Trump supporters and Q crazies follow.

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Interesting article:  Rep. Taylor believes laser beams from outer space may have started California wildfires and that the vice chairman of “Rothschild Inc” (financial services co.) may have been involved in order to profit from the disaster.   Numerous news reports discuss a deleted facebook video,  where Greene told a crowd: “It’s a crime punishable by death is what treason is. Nancy Pelosi is guilty of treason.”     Guess she is unaware that the internet is archived by the Wayback Machine website  +  searchable!

Along with her "personal phone call from Donald Trump" supporting her which she posted yesterday on facebook, she was also at the White House planning for the Trump 1/3/21 rally.  Especially Federal Representatives,  they need to tell the truth about government and election results.

Sure hope censure can be invoked along with stripping of Education committee assignment.

Washington post 1/30/21

Marjorie Taylor Greene’s QAnon Rant: ‘I Definitely Would Believe’ the Rothschilds Are Funding ‘Global Evil’

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10 hours ago, Tweety said:

It probably isn't true that "most Trump supporters including those in Congress are Christian".  70 million people voted for him and they probably reflect a variety of faiths, or like a lot of people are agnostic and don't go to church. 
 

We can nitpick the fine details, but white evangelicals certainly have made their support for Trump loud and clear to the point that they are a force to be reckoned with.  It seems some politicians don't want to rock their boat and lose their support, or be branded as not Christian.  

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/11/us/how-white-evangelical-christians-fused-with-trump-extremism.html

As a gay man they have long been Public Enemy #1 to me as they have fought to make the Bible the constitution and challenge my right to exist (remember I'm 61 and have faced plenty of discrimination).  They have failed and society has grown, but now I think they've gone off the deep end and have sacrificed some of their faith in throwing their support behind Trump who clearly is not a Christian and has violated Christian ideals in so many ways.  This turn of events have baffled me.   Where they go from here is going to be interesting.

 

I still stand by my statement, while I'm sure there are members of every faith or lack there of that voted for him, Christianity is so prevalent nationwide. I also think that if most of the Republican base wasn't religious then why do Republicans pander so much to them?

I agree with everything else in your post, Evangelism has become radical, maybe it always has been? They seem worse nowadays. 

I also have the utmost respect for what you and other members of previous generations went through in the LGBTQ community, even though the oppression I have faced sucks it's still not as bad as what you guys experienced in previous decades.

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15 hours ago, Beerman said:

Well, whether that is true or not is a completely different conversation then your false claim that most Trump supporters are Christian. 

 

I'm not sure how this would be debatable, statistically there is little reason to doubt that most Trump supporters are Christian.

Current data varies slightly, but generally they all put the percentage of the US population that considers itself to be Christian (versus other religion, agnostic / atheist, etc) at 65%.  That means that even if the US Christian populations breaks 50/50 for democrats and republicans, the majority of Republican voters are Christian.  But the majority of Christians in the US identify with more socially conservative Christian sects, as opposed to socially liberal sects (Quaker/Friends, UCC, Congregationalist, Unitarian, etc).  

It doesn't seem there would be any question that the majority of Trump / Republican voters identify as Christian, although I'm also not really sure why it matters.  

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4 hours ago, TheMoonisMyLantern said:

I still stand by my statement, while I'm sure there are members of every faith or lack there of that voted for him, Christianity is so prevalent nationwide. I also think that if most of the Republican base wasn't religious then why do Republicans pander so much to them?

 

They pander to them because they need the votes and they pretty much have the same agenda...anti-abortion, small government, "religious freedom", etc.   I co-existed with this for many years, but that they switched directions to support Trump is what baffles me.

One can also say the majority of people voting Democrat were Christian as that is the dominant faith here, especially among African Americans that overwhelming were against Trump.  It's interesting to see that phenomenon  that two, sometimes conversation Christian groups of Christians are on the opposite ends of the political spectrum.  

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