Obama health care law upheld.

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The health care bill was discussed in Congress over several years and various versions were online for those wanting to keep up with the changes. It wasn't discussed behind closed doors in the dead of night. Click here for the timeline of the Finance Committee's work to reform America's health care system - health care reform from conception to final passage.

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Specializes in Trauma, ER, ICU, CCU, PACU, GI, Cardiology, OR.

i'll await to make my comment in the near future :cool:

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Didnt obama promise us that we would all have ample time to read and review pending laws before voting ensued? How long would it take to read and comprehend 2700 pages. And wasnt some of what became part of the law added in the dead of night behind closed doors? That whole transparency thing was a lie, too.
You and every other American has had several years to read as much as you want of the 2700 or so pages. How much longer should be given?
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Specializes in L & D; Postpartum.

Looks like, to me, obama is taking credit for something he had not much to do with. By early 2007 he was in full time campaign mode. I wouldnt call time spent in the linked timeline years. And very little time after he took office was spent before it was a done deal. We are stuck with it now, at least until unless it is repealed.

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BBC. I don't even bother with the American 24 hour news channels anymore.

I'm right there with you on that one!

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Looks like, to me, obama is taking credit for something he had not much to do with. By early 2007 he was in full time campaign mode. I wouldnt call time spent in the linked timeline years. And very little time after he took office was spent before it was a done deal. We are stuck with it now, at least until unless it is repealed.

He didn't have much to do with? Are you serious? Do you think it happened spontaneously?

Is it odd that Obama was in full campaign mode in early 2007, as as the 2008 presidential campaign was getting under way?

"And very little time after he took office was spent before it was a done deal"? How long do you think it should have taken in order to have been proper? That reminds me of the king complaining to Mozart that his work had too many notes in the movie Amadeus.

"We are stuck with it now, at least until unless it is repealed."

It will be repealed in the sense that Medicare and Social Security were repealed. That is, it won't be. Once more of the law's provisions kick in by 2014, people aren't going to give up their benefits. As it is, most U.S. citizens have absolutely no idea what's in the ACA, but when polled on the specifics, they like those specifics.

Sorry, but the horse is out of the barn.

For some real-world data on what it will be like, see Massachusetts.

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Just want to understand how this 'great accomplishment' of Obama's will be funded :/

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Yes...so much talk already that this is going to "give hospitals less...etc...thereby they will be hiring less and less people...a race to the bottom...blah blah blah" In what way do the people on the "right" explain this...everybody keeps saying that but none of them have any proof! If the system is now geared(in theory)to help more and more people...common sense( I use that lightly since we are dealing with businesses still) dictates that there will have to be more employees to meet the demand. The ceo's of all these major hospitals will just have to stop being so greedy! They are the ones causing this problem in our country in the first place...not the government. So to all you who feel that this is going to hurt us...tell us why...show us some proof...don't just echo what you heard on foxnewscorp!

What you are going to see is what has been happening already in states such as MA and NY, more and more hospital mergers and vertical intergration of healthcare services.

Insurance companies are buying hospitals, hospitals are buying insurance companies, large heathcare networks are growing bigger by purchasing more facilites.

As for dictates that increased demand from more patients will equal expanded hiring, I shouldn't be so sure about that. Ask nurses in the UK and EU contries that have been living with some form or another of national healthcare about staffing, support, supplies and so forth.

There aren't enough physicans or hospitals willing to treat Medicaid patients now, and this law actually cuts rates for that program. Indeed much of the savings from Obamacare come from expected reduced healthcare spending. This will mean something has got to give.

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[color=#333333]nurse leaders happy with aca .nurse leaders happy with ruling on aca | national nursing news

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although this article in the american journal of nursing was written in 2010, it gives a book breakdown of how the aca affects nurses. here's a just a snippet that addresses the question some of you have expressed about having enough people to handle the newly insured and how it will affect jobs.

[h=2]nurses and the affordable care act : ajn the american journal of nursing

"nurses and the affordable care act [/h]

a new grant program has also been established to fund community-based nurse-managed health centers that are operated and managed by qualified advanced practice nurses. in addition, the expected growth over the next few years of the federally supported health center system could increase its patient base to as many as 40 million people. nurses are already its single largest group of workers—more than 15,000 strong. more support for health centers means more people can access important primary care services. and more patients mean thousands of new nursing jobs, more nurse administrators, and more responsibility for nurses."

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Specializes in PICU, NICU, L&D, Public Health, Hospice.

Hopefully, we will see improvements in health outcomes for US citizens as we continue on the path of reform. The objective of reform is not to increase profits or payments, the objective is to improve health care access and health outcomes for the people.

I sat with several of my physician colleagues today over coffee and discussed this "surprise" ruling. They were all pleased that the ACA was preserved and they all hope for more comprehensive reform that removes "for profit" insurance out of the equation.

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Just want to understand how this 'great accomplishment' of Obama's will be funded :/

lol are you serious? Considering that it's basically a tax that was upheld today... well yes, I'm sure you can figure out how it will be funded... it involves taxing people who don't buy health insurance and then end up at the ED unable to pay, forcing the rest of us responsible people to foot the bill.

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