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Hi allnurses! :)
So, I've been wanting to write this for a really long time now, I just want to vent.
I'm currently in my last semester of nursing school, then I graduate, yay me!
I believe nursing school is an awesome experience that a lot of people work really hard to get into, and sometimes we may get rejected a few times before we finally get accepted into a program. Nursing school is NOT easy to get into, therefore, we should appreciate every moment that we spend in it, doing homework, studying, waking up early, going to clinicals, just embrace it! We worked so hard to get into this program, this will pay off in the end and it will be a huge accomplishment.
Ok so I want to get this off my chest and vent because sometimes my classmates really annoy me!
1. There's that one student that is always coming to class late, not 5-10 minutes, like (literally) an hour late! - NO!!! How is that you are always running that late?! I know she has kids but other students have kids and they manage their time and have everything set to get to class on time. Being constantly late, is unprofessional and irresponsible, not what you want to be in nursing school.
2. There's the students that are always wanting to change the schedule (that's already been set up for us by the instructors), change the rules, or complain about everything to the instructors- For example, if something on the schedule doesn't work for THEM, they go to the instructor and they make them change everything for the class. I look at the schedule and plan things around it, I never think "Hmmm, that assignment doesn't work for me on that day, I have to talk to my instructor". Be responsible and manage your time, the schedule/assignments are set up for us so we know what is due and when. DO YOUR WORK AND STOP COMPLAINING!
3. There's the students that don't like to wear their nursing uniform, what??- We earned that uniform! like I said, I know a lot of people that wish they can be in the program and wear the scrubs we wear with the school's name on it. We deserve to own it and show everyone that we are nursing students.
4. Like #2, we have student's that like to disobey the rules that are set for us. We are not allowed to wear nail polish or have long nails, yet some girls are still doing it regardless, like they think it's no big deal. You need to start acting and presenting yourself as professionals, those are cute on special occasions, but NOT for clinical.
5. There's one student that (I see) disrespects, and intimidates the instructors. She complains about everything and wants things done HER way. She gives the instructors a mean look and is very outspoken about how she wants things to be done (like #2). First of all, RESPECT your instructors, yea they are strict but it's for a good reason, they are teaching us how to be good, competent nurses. Second, Don't try to make things easy because you can't handle the hard work. I've never complained to the instructors because the work was too hard, and I've gotten very good grades thus far!
6. There's people that don't pay attention during lecture! This irritates me! I see them going on different websites in their laptops, then during break or after class, they say "so what were we talking about?" :facepalm:I'm not even joking! During clinical, a student asked what was a [certain condition we talked about in class]....ummm, we had a whole hour lecture on this condition and she didn't know what it was.
7. This is the one I HATE the most! People that want to copy your work. I don't agree with cheating or copying. I don't believe it's right that I worked so hard on an assignment, put the time and effort into it, and then have someone ask me to let them "borrow" it, when they clearly haven't done their work. I also had a student TELL ME after we were done with our midterm that she tried looking at my answers because she didn't know what one of the answers was. She keeps asking for my assignments but I don't understand! We are about to graduate, we are about to be nurses, WORK for it, Oh but she gets mad when I don't give it.
8. The people that look for all the answers online instead of in the book....where they are whenever we have online assignments/quizzes, not only do they look online for the answers (without reading and understanding it from the book) but they pass it around to the class, so NO ONE does the work, they just copy and don't understand the material.
Anyway, that's it for now, this is already too long.
Just wanted to let you guys know that as nursing students we need to work hard, understand the material, read, be organized, ask questions, respect and appreciate the instructors, we are held to a higher standard!
I just feel like I don't have a reason to complain, I knew this was going to be hard, and I'm enjoying and embracing every aspect of nursing school.
Do you guys have people like these in class?
Honestly, I'm sick of being judged.
I am always on time to class. I live very far away from campus, and due to the nearby military base, traffic can be unpredictable. Because I don't know how bad the traffic may be, I have to leave extremely early from home to allow for the unexpected delay. I am often 30 minutes early to class and spend the time waiting.
I have kids and I desperately miss my time with them. I still go to class, open lab time, and study group. I don't have any family nearby, but I have had to call on church friends and paid babysitters to cover the time I have to be in class or study. I don't just have one backup babysitter/school pickup, I have about 5 layers of backups. Building this network of childcare has not been easy or cheap, but it is what it takes to ensure I don't miss class.
I miss my husband. Today is my birthday and I am going to spend it at school with a cadaver. I really miss spending my time with the love of my life, but these high intensity and time demanding classes require that I focus on school. It stinks, but I am grateful that he supports me and takes up the slack at home when he can. Housework still doesn't get done the weeks I have exams/practicals. He is also out of time off from work. The semester is almost over, so I am looking forward to spending the entire 2 week break between semesters with him.
I work really hard for my grades. I love learning and I find everything I learn in my pre-nursing classes fascinating. But it is still hard. I read the book multiple times, do the online study materials, find youtube videos to explain tricky concepts, go to open lab, go to tutoring, talk through it and teach others at study group. This takes a ton of time. I am making As in all of my classes, but those As have been earned with blood, sweat, and tears.
There are people in my class who complain loudly that I have no life and nothing better to do than study. They are upset and offended when they realize that I did better on my tests than they did. (I don't broadcast my grades, but word does get around.) My study group members have overheard them talking about us before class or during lab. Most of them are on their second time taking this class, and they are not doing any better this second time around. Sometimes when I ask a question over some of the class material, they will snottily say that we don't need to know that because it wasn't on the exam last time. I don't care that it isn't on the exam. I want to understand it anyway! Besides, I have always done better when I understand a subject several degrees more in detail than is required for the test.
This is a second career and a second degree for me. I am not eligible for financial aid. I don't have time or money to take this class again. I am older than many of my classmates, so I am eager to not waste time getting started on my new careers. I also am honestly having fun learning about the human body, psychology, and my other pre-nursing classes.
I get it that their opinion of me (and the rest of my study group) doesn't affect me or my grades. However hearing them talk about me is upsetting and is affecting my enjoyment of the class. It is a self esteem hit and it is distracting.
I am a nursing student who has kids and about to graduate. My experience in school has been very unpleasant. For one, my children and I were severely abused by their father. I chose to be a survivor and accomplish something. Both of my children have severe PTSD and throughout all of nursing school, I've battled through one becoming suicidal, the other being all over the map and raising them alone with a full time job and zero support from any source. I'm never late to work, but am often late to school on mornings where pandemonium breaks out in my home. My teenager has had flashbacks and physically hurt me and my youngest son has done things like change the alarm clock on days when I was supposed to be in class. I've struggled through counseling for myself and them during this whole journey. Not to mention the legal battles that have taken place. Two semesters ago, my school instituted a policy that said if you missed a test and you were sick, it could be made up with two hours notice. However, if your child got sick it was considered inexcusable. One parent in a similar situation to mine actually failed a class when her child fell ill and went into the intensive care unit. What has gone on in my home has been very private and on a need to know basis. However, a couple of students (like you) started a campaign against me and made the whole class dislike me because they assumed that I must have been irresponsible. There's nothing like staying up all night dealing with a PTSD related issue just to walk into class humiliated because you are once again late to a bunch of hostile and rude 20 year olds who know nothing about your home life. We have a class Facebook page where people have made fun of me frequently and openly. I have been in the bathroom on breaks and listened to people degrade me and even been humiliated by classmates while giving a presentation. A couple of instructors who still think they are children joined in on the fun at one point. Also, I noticed that one of my classmates seemed to have some very good notes in a particular lecture and when I enquired of her about sharing them, her answer was that she "didn't share her notes" because she worked very hard on them...I was planning to invite her into our group which would have cut her workload and given her more study time, but she clearly thought that she was better than me as the disdain dripped from her lips. There's nothing quite like never having a place to go where things aren't hard. Peoples opinions of me in that place really don't matter to me now because I doubt any one of them would have had the strength to overcome what I did and still have their sanity. Nevertheless, I persevered and will be graduating in a few days. I've been loved by most of my preceptors who have gone out of their way to let me know that they would love to work with me. And all those predators who saw a weakness and decided to pounce, judge and treat me like I was undeserving of even humane treatment will be a distant memory. Oh and the kicker was that while they weren't talking to me, I had plenty of time to listen about how they were test banking it up to be "top of the class" while I was doing it honest. Guess it really burned that I made the highest diagnostic test grade in the class! I did make a few lifelong friends with whom we created some fabulous study guides to rock tests. And will be keeping in touch with them probably for life. The whole point of sharing this with you is to hopefully help you understand that you can't judge a book by its cover. And while you've kept your mouth shut until now, you should know that people still can read a lot in your eyes and feel your cold shoulder. In some ways surviving nursing school was much harder than surviving domestic violence because if you stay in that type of relationship for very long you at least see it coming.
What happens to you was inexcusable.
I a DV survivor myself; the only people who knew were my instructors; very few knew and f an when they found out they treated me with the upmost respect; it was none of their business; but just in case I needed time or any other issues that would arise.
For example I was totally out of sorts on a clinical site one day, and the instructor knew that I wasn't behaving myself; it happened to be my trauma anniversary date and basically relieved the feelings of trauma consistently for 7 years until this year where there have been very few residual effects; if I didn't tell that instructor and been honest and upfront, who knows why they would've thought...if anything my self disclosure brought me support to finish a goal I would probably achieved-my abuse **** me seven times and liked himself, so it was a near-death experience.
Situations like these ARE essential in notifying instructors; most are helpful and want people who have endure challenges to succeed; personally they would be out of business if students didn't succeed.
I am a nursing student who has kids and about to graduate. My experience in school has been very unpleasant. For one, my children and I were severely abused by their father. I chose to be a survivor and accomplish something. Both of my children have severe PTSD and throughout all of nursing school, I've battled through one becoming suicidal, the other being all over the map and raising them alone with a full time job and zero support from any source. I'm never late to work, but am often late to school on mornings where pandemonium breaks out in my home. My teenager has had flashbacks and physically hurt me and my youngest son has done things like change the alarm clock on days when I was supposed to be in class. I've struggled through counseling for myself and them during this whole journey. Not to mention the legal battles that have taken place. Two semesters ago, my school instituted a policy that said if you missed a test and you were sick, it could be made up with two hours notice. However, if your child got sick it was considered inexcusable. One parent in a similar situation to mine actually failed a class when her child fell ill and went into the intensive care unit. What has gone on in my home has been very private and on a need to know basis. However, a couple of students (like you) started a campaign against me and made the whole class dislike me because they assumed that I must have been irresponsible. There's nothing like staying up all night dealing with a PTSD related issue just to walk into class humiliated because you are once again late to a bunch of hostile and rude 20 year olds who know nothing about your home life. We have a class Facebook page where people have made fun of me frequently and openly. I have been in the bathroom on breaks and listened to people degrade me and even been humiliated by classmates while giving a presentation. A couple of instructors who still think they are children joined in on the fun at one point. Also, I noticed that one of my classmates seemed to have some very good notes in a particular lecture and when I enquired of her about sharing them, her answer was that she "didn't share her notes" because she worked very hard on them...I was planning to invite her into our group which would have cut her workload and given her more study time, but she clearly thought that she was better than me as the disdain dripped from her lips. There's nothing quite like never having a place to go where things aren't hard. Peoples opinions of me in that place really don't matter to me now because I doubt any one of them would have had the strength to overcome what I did and still have their sanity. Nevertheless, I persevered and will be graduating in a few days. I've been loved by most of my preceptors who have gone out of their way to let me know that they would love to work with me. And all those predators who saw a weakness and decided to pounce, judge and treat me like I was undeserving of even humane treatment will be a distant memory. Oh and the kicker was that while they weren't talking to me, I had plenty of time to listen about how they were test banking it up to be "top of the class" while I was doing it honest. Guess it really burned that I made the highest diagnostic test grade in the class! I did make a few lifelong friends with whom we created some fabulous study guides to rock tests. And will be keeping in touch with them probably for life. The whole point of sharing this with you is to hopefully help you understand that you can't judge a book by its cover. And while you've kept your mouth shut until now, you should know that people still can read a lot in your eyes and feel your cold shoulder. In some ways surviving nursing school was much harder than surviving domestic violence because if you stay in that type of relationship for very long you at least see it coming.
(((Hugs))) Fahrenheit -- many congrats on your giant accomplishment. Your children are lucky to have you, and you them. A fantastic role model to be sure.
I am a nursing student who has kids and about to graduate. My experience in school has been very unpleasant. For one, my children and I were severely abused by their father. I chose to be a survivor and accomplish something. Both of my children have severe PTSD and throughout all of nursing school, I've battled through one becoming suicidal, the other being all over the map and raising them alone with a full time job and zero support from any source. I'm never late to work, but am often late to school on mornings where pandemonium breaks out in my home. My teenager has had flashbacks and physically hurt me and my youngest son has done things like change the alarm clock on days when I was supposed to be in class. I've struggled through counseling for myself and them during this whole journey. Not to mention the legal battles that have taken place. Two semesters ago, my school instituted a policy that said if you missed a test and you were sick, it could be made up with two hours notice. However, if your child got sick it was considered inexcusable. One parent in a similar situation to mine actually failed a class when her child fell ill and went into the intensive care unit. What has gone on in my home has been very private and on a need to know basis. However, a couple of students (like you) started a campaign against me and made the whole class dislike me because they assumed that I must have been irresponsible. There's nothing like staying up all night dealing with a PTSD related issue just to walk into class humiliated because you are once again late to a bunch of hostile and rude 20 year olds who know nothing about your home life. We have a class Facebook page where people have made fun of me frequently and openly. I have been in the bathroom on breaks and listened to people degrade me and even been humiliated by classmates while giving a presentation. A couple of instructors who still think they are children joined in on the fun at one point. Also, I noticed that one of my classmates seemed to have some very good notes in a particular lecture and when I enquired of her about sharing them, her answer was that she "didn't share her notes" because she worked very hard on them...I was planning to invite her into our group which would have cut her workload and given her more study time, but she clearly thought that she was better than me as the disdain dripped from her lips. There's nothing quite like never having a place to go where things aren't hard. Peoples opinions of me in that place really don't matter to me now because I doubt any one of them would have had the strength to overcome what I did and still have their sanity. Nevertheless, I persevered and will be graduating in a few days. I've been loved by most of my preceptors who have gone out of their way to let me know that they would love to work with me. And all those predators who saw a weakness and decided to pounce, judge and treat me like I was undeserving of even humane treatment will be a distant memory. Oh and the kicker was that while they weren't talking to me, I had plenty of time to listen about how they were test banking it up to be "top of the class" while I was doing it honest. Guess it really burned that I made the highest diagnostic test grade in the class! I did make a few lifelong friends with whom we created some fabulous study guides to rock tests. And will be keeping in touch with them probably for life. The whole point of sharing this with you is to hopefully help you understand that you can't judge a book by its cover. And while you've kept your mouth shut until now, you should know that people still can read a lot in your eyes and feel your cold shoulder. In some ways surviving nursing school was much harder than surviving domestic violence because if you stay in that type of relationship for very long you at least see it coming.
It is absolutely horrible what happened to you, and I've witnessed this behavior among my peer towards other students, with children specifically. I see this kind of "suck it up, buttercup" attitude on this forum, and many people believe they have the right to judge and complain about another student's actions in class, regardless of their situation at home.
This is exactly why I do not judge anybody because you honestly never know what is going on with them underneath the surface. It is amazing that you went through all of that, kept your sanity, and still managed to graduate. You are an inspiration to us all, and I hope you get the respect you deserve in your career as a nurse :)
I agree with absolutely everything :) ...except for #1.I feel that we don't have the right to judge nursing students with children that are late to class... They are probably getting their kids to school, rushing to class, working full-time, and barely making ends meet for all we know. Having one kid is a full-time job in itself.
I personally know a wonderful student with 3 children. She is frequently late because she has to take her kids to school, but she works very hard and achieves good grades.
My mum worked full time, bought up three kids on her own and was never ever ever late to work once. I think "oh but they have children" is a cop out. Lots of people have multiple children and still manage to get to their classes/jobs on time
Being late to class consistently is rude, disruptive and disrespectful to the clinical teacher, but also to all the other members of the class who managed to get to class on time.
Basically if my replacement is late arriving, I cant leave until they do. At the end of a very long working day, I want to go home when I'm due to finish
.......Situations like these ARE essential in notifying instructors; most are helpful and want people who have endure challenges to succeed; personally they would be out of business if students didn't succeed.
I had a fairly major trauma in my final year, left me with pretty much the clothes I was standing up in and nothing more. My second visit was to see my teachers and let them know what was happening and to forgive me when I couldnt show up to clinical proper uniforms. They were absolutely brilliant and so supportive even helped me with setting up again and gave me a whole bunch of bedding to get started again.
My point?
If you are struggling, life is happening, make sure you keep communicating with your school. They want to see people succeed and if you are experiencing a hard time, they are so much more supportive if they know whats going on.
I think it is wonderful that so many people are understanding of those who run late due to the obligations of being a parent.
That being said, I'm a single parent who is responsible to pay for and secure childcare so that I can attend school/clinicals/ work.
It irks me to no end when I hear other students use their kids as an excuse to be late or absent.
I've never used my kids as an excuse. I feel it's my responsibility to secure childcare, as well as to secure back up child care so that I can attend class/clinicals/ work.
That being said, I have actually ran late to clinicals during the past week. A close relative was in ICU and my car broke down.
Therefore, I'm exceptionally grateful that I was cut some slack.
Sounds like you have a lot of entitlements in your class. First and foremost, people that are late are constantly late everywhere they go, not just class, it is ingrained in them - and I am not endorsing it just explaining the facts. They are people that just don't give a rip how disruptive or rude they are, they will never change. There will also always be someone that wants to change the rules and the schedules, talk amongst themselves and want to copy your work. You are getting an insight to how the real world actually is - you will see this a lot regardless of whatever your profession is so get use to it. It is annoying and one of those things that make jobs a pain in the butt. It will almost always be your coworkers that make you hate your job, not the job itself. As my dad said to me when I first started working, there is one in every office...............
Don't agree - I went to nursing school late in the game in my late 40's. So I have plenty of working experience behind me and I'm sorry, but having kids is not an excuse to be late anywhere. You are hired to do a job at a specific time for a specific schedule, and get paid to do it to boot. Unless you fetter all that out in your interview you are expected to be where you are expected to be, regardless of your kids, your husband, your ride to work, whatever. It is called responsibility. Now you are probably going to say but her children are more of a responsibility and yes they are and if they cause you to be late you need to get a job that starts later in the day - this is not your coworkers or your bosses problem. This is called life and figuring it out. Sorry but having kids does not make you more special.
I don't know why people care so much about other people being late to class. In the real world people are always late. I worked in another field for years...people show up to meetings late every time. You'll have bosses who come in late, whine, want to cut corners, unfocused and every poor trait you can think of. You have to work around those people as an adult. You'll wear yourself out very quickly having these perfect expectations for everyone else.
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Actually, complaining, venting, (whatever you want to call it), can be psychologically healthy. It certainly isn't damaging. We aren't naming names or schools. We're just talking through our nursing school experiences. I would never actually talk about this stuff openly at school--that would create drama. But here? Here it's a drama free vent session.