Nursing job that doesn't have to deal with docs?

Otessa, BSN, RN · Jul 30, 2006

I worked at an Osteopathic hospital(all doctors were D.O.'s ) and they were the BEST to work with-very holistic. You might need to find somewhere else to work.

Luvbuble · Jul 30, 2006

I worked at an Osteopathic hospital(all doctors were D.O.'s ) and they were the BEST to work with-very holistic. You might need to find somewhere else to work.

let me ask a stupid question. What is DO? Is it doctors for osteopathology?

Where do you find Osteopathic hospital? is there a special hospital only for people with bone's problem?

Otessa, BSN, RN · Jul 30, 2006

I used to think it was about bones too:wink2:

Here is a link there are surgeons(all kinds), cardiac,anything an MD would do. Theay are all across the country. I worked in one in Colorado.

http://www.healthprofessions.com/careers/do.htm

Trauma Columnist · Jul 30, 2006

So sorry that your experience has been negative. There are many, many good hospitals and wonderful, respectful and appreciative doctors. Maybe its time to find one of those.

Luvbuble · Jul 30, 2006

So sorry that your experience has been negative. There are many, many good hospitals and wonderful, respectful and appreciative doctors. Maybe its time to find one of those.

Unfortunately, I have already worked in 3 different places and still have not found some normal "human" Doctors to work with. I hate to let them step all over me like a doormat.

I am a hard working, sensitive nurse with great personality but I found most doctors and surgeons that I worked with are disrespectful and they don't treat me the way that I deserve to be treated.

Trauma Columnist · Jul 30, 2006

Hmm - well if that's the case, I would ask a close friend or co-worker how you're coming across? Do you project confidence and the "I'm not going away until we get this issue resolved?" or do you phrase everything with a "please and thanks and its okay if you don't want to do it?" I have found that being assertive (not mean, nasty or malicious) is the best way to go. I have my facts at my fingertips when I talk with the MD so that I don't waste time. I present the bare bones facts, my proposed course of action and then ask what other options should we consider. I also use the word "we" as though I am automatically part of the decision making team. Hope this helps.

Luvbuble · Jul 30, 2006

Hmm - well if that's the case, I would ask a close friend or co-worker how you're coming across? Do you project confidence and the "I'm not going away until we get this issue resolved?" or do you phrase everything with a "please and thanks and its okay if you don't want to do it?" I have found that being assertive (not mean, nasty or malicious) is the best way to go. I have my facts at my fingertips when I talk with the MD so that I don't waste time. I present the bare bones facts, my proposed course of action and then ask what other options should we consider. I also use the word "we" as though I am automatically part of the decision making team. Hope this helps.

I think you are right about being assertive. Some people quit at my work b/c the doctors are plain nasty. Some nurses can deal with it b/c they could tolerate the yelling or they do need this job badly.

For me, I can take a pay cut and I would rather take a pay cut to be able to work with nicer people who don't think they are "God".

EricJRN, MSN, RN · Jul 30, 2006

I think TraumaRUs is on the right track when she suggests ways of learning to get along with docs. Think about it this way - by looking for another job you're not letting them walk on you, but you are letting them severely limit your employment prospects. It seems like they're still winning here.

I guess this is easier for me to say since I tend to let things roll off of me easily. We have a couple of docs at work who can get testy at times, but they're excellent most of the time and it's easy to just smile and shrug and chalk things up to a bad day.

KellieNurse06 · Jul 30, 2006

Try home nursing care.....the case manager for the patients is the one who usually deals with the docs...unless an urgent issue came up at home that you needed to call the doc for. Usually asking if they are having a bad day knocks them off their high horse...and reminds them to come back to everyones level and not forget they put their pants on one leg at a time like everyone else:rolleyes:

justjenny · Jul 30, 2006

I can recommend working in a magnet hospital. One of the criteria for magnet status the working relationship between physicians and RNs. I also firmly believe that it is possible to be treated with respect (by anyone) if you insist upon it (ie: do NOT tolerate yelling, etc. any unprofessional behavior...we are all adults and can act like it) there are classess specifically for working on "people skills" like this.

As another poster replied, ask your co-workers how you come across also. As a new RN I do get treated differently, but I have also NOT earned the Docs respect and they do not know me well enough to trust me...in time that will change. An open line of communication is necessary - and don't apologize too - example: having an open line of communication sometimes means waking a Doc in the middle of the night regarding a patient...it is your job to inform them and it is their job to receive the info no matter how inconvenient it may be for them.

Hang in there!

Jenny

purplemania, BSN, RN · Jul 30, 2006

Attitude begins at the top of YOUR facility, not the MD's office. If your admin will not tolerate it then it will be suppressed or go away.

I work in education and only deal with docs whose diabetic patients I consult. We have a good relationship because we are on the same page, so to speak.