Nursing job that doesn't have to deal with docs?

NaomieRN · Jul 30, 2006

School nurse

SilentfadesRPA · Jul 30, 2006

What about teaching nursing or working in a public health or govenment health agency ?

On the other side and along what other posters have so wisely said you may want to explore how you can feel good about you and be more proactive in communicating with those who are willing to not gentlepersons at others expense.

Do you believe in yourself ? Do you find others supportive of your opinions?

Is there a course or short term therapy that you may consider to develop and confront the ability to deal with ego busters.

What ever you choose I hope you find the inner strength and pride that as a nurse we all deserve.

Marc

suehp · Jul 30, 2006

We have a policy in our hospital not to accept any behaviour from a Doctor that you feel is intimidating. If you do you can report them. So far all the Docs that I have spoken to have been extremely nice. 2 got slightly frustrated with me whne I asked them to repeat their orders twice becasue I didnt think I heard them right but all I got was a sigh...other than that everyone has been pleasent even at 4 or 5 in the morning! :rolleyes:

Luvbuble · Jul 31, 2006

What about teaching nursing or working in a public health or govenment health agency ?
On the other side and along what other posters have so wisely said you may want to explore how you can feel good about you and be more proactive in communicating with those who are willing to not gentlepersons at others expense.
Do you believe in yourself ? Do you find others supportive of your opinions?
Is there a course or short term therapy that you may consider to develop and confront the ability to deal with ego busters.
What ever you choose I hope you find the inner strength and pride that as a nurse we all deserve.
Marc

Thank you for your suggestions. I have been thinking of taking a class to learn how to deal with jerks too. I am not kidding! :bluecry1:

Sometimes, some docs just got off on some nurses for no reason. They are just another species. I used to tell my son when he grew up he should be a doctor but now I told him make sure he is not going to be one. I told him being a dentist is better. :rolleyes:

Maybe I should just ignore these mean docs and do my job. I will stay in where I am working right now till I cannot tolerate them.

Guest717236 · Jul 31, 2006

Maybe I should just ignore these mean docs and do my job. I will stay in where I am working right now till I cannot tolerate them.

There is some hope on the horizon-in Boston many of the

MD programs require new Docs to shadow a nurse for

a while to get a better perspective on exactly what nurses

do and what their day is like.

Its rumored many are carried off on stretchers after this exhausting

day. Of course the nurse they shadowed is off to their fitness class at the end of the shift :pumpiron:

Faeriewand, ASN, RN · Jul 31, 2006

There is some hope on the horizon-in Boston many of the
MD programs require new Docs to shadow a nurse for
a while to get a better perspective on exactly what nurses
do and what their day is like.
Its rumored many are carried off on stretchers after this exhausting
day. Of course the nurse they shadowed is off to their fitness class at the end of the shift :pumpiron:

Hehe Jahara that is a great idea Boston has there! :chuckle

TrudyRN · Jul 31, 2006

Unfortunately, I have already worked in 3 different places and still have not found some normal "human" Doctors to work with. I hate to let them step all over me like a doormat.
I am a hard working, sensitive nurse with great personality but I found most doctors and surgeons that I worked with are disrespectful and they don't treat me the way that I deserve to be treated.

I'm just curious - are you working in private facilities or public? Are the clients mostly of the same economic level? It has been my own personal experience that public facilities, which usually deal with people who are not too affluent, are friendlier. Don't get me wrong - there are definitely exceptions. But public facilities seem to have House Staff and lots of students, be they medical, nursing, or other, and these are usually younger and friendlier. Again, though, being older doesn't necessarily make someone unfriendly. I'm generalizing, I know.

I hope this might help you and I hope you find what you are looking for. To answer your original about some type of Nursing in which nurses don't have to deal with doctors - as long as Nursing is considered a dependent profession, I don't think nurses can ever really function without some doctor involvement. Yes, we have advanced practice these days, such as anesthetists, NP's, midwives, administrators, and educators. But except for the last 2, I think all nurses are very heavily involved with doctors and will always be viewed as dependent, legally speaking.

Natkat, BSN, MSN, RN · Jul 31, 2006

In dialysis you don't see the doctors much. Our doctors do rounds once or twice a week. There's more autonomy for nurses. As it turns out, most nephrologists are pretty easy going and easy to deal with, so the time you do spend with them is pretty tolerable.

Guest717236 · Jul 31, 2006

Hehe Jahara that is a great idea Boston has there! :chuckle

Screaming at the nurse and throwing a tantrum does not constitute

good bedside manners........ The shadowing a nurse program was

a spin off from this required course as teamwork for patient care is essential.

http://www.theguardianonline.com/media/paper373/news/2005/03/30/News/Schools.Train.Doctors.To.Emphasize.The.Importance.Of.Bedside.Manners-907307.shtml?norewrite&sourcedomain=www.theguardianonline.com

annaM · Jul 31, 2006

You say that you've worked at 3 different places and have run into the same problem.......Maybe it isn't the doctors.

AnubisRN · Jul 31, 2006

Do you work at a teaching hospital? I used to work at a community hospital where the doctors were treated like kings. At a teaching hospital you deal mainly with interns and residents who are constantly changing so if there is one who has attitude, you will only deal with them for a couple of months.

I have problems with assertion too so this is my twisted way of getting around it

bbfw2 · Aug 7, 2006

Have you thought about self employment. It is not so far fetched as you might think. Even the current president of the CNA has her own business; Tamlyn and Associated Consulting.

The folks who run this web site might very well be nurses (or were). I am still an registered RN (with my association) might I also own my own business. No doctors required.