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  1. Natkat

    I Have an MSN and Can't Get Hired.....ANYWHERE

    My MSN is in leadership and management. I did that because I had a specific job in mind at the time. I'm not all that sure I am interested in management. It was just what I wanted to do at the time. I wish I had done nurse practitioner or education. Those things interest me more. ANd I know that I don't have experience to make the MSN attractive. My dilemma is what do I do about it. Meanwhile I cannot get a PRN job in acute care. No one will hire me.
  2. A little background to start. I'll try to keep it short but it's a lot. I have been a dialysis nurse my whole career. I took a travel position and they liked me and wanted me to hire on permanently with the contingency that I get my BSN within 2 years. Did that. There was a supervisory position open in the department that had been vacant for 3 years. My coworkers suggested I apply for it. I approached the manager and asked what I needed to do to qualify. She said to enroll in a master's degree program. I didn't have to have the master's degree to start. I just needed to enroll. Did that. They gave the job to someone else. I went ahead and finished my master's degree because I figured I might as well since I started it anyway. All i heard was that if I had a master's degree, I could go anywhere - do anything. It would open doors for me. I took a job as a research nurse for a about year, but between the four hour commute - each day - and the toxic atmosphere, I decided it wasn't for me. I decided to go back to dialysis because I felt comfortable and there wouldn't be a long learning curve. Well. I took a job as the nurse manager at a chronic unit. The prior manager blew the place up. So many things were done wrong - taking patients off 30 minutes early every Saturday so everyone could go home early, no assessments done on new patients at all, charge nurse can't be found and not even physically in the building, and so much more. So I come in to do the job and went through orientation, but the person I would replace refused to train me. I managed to coordinate my own training, sort of, and finished orientation. About a week later BAM! Here comes the state. We had an immediate IJ and have been working under conditions for a couple of months. So now everyone is looking at me like I did it. I barely had any training and I've been working hard to try and learn everything, but to them, I'm not catching on fast enough. The other day I was written up. I have never even been counseled or talked to, much less written up, in all my years as a nurse! I have tried to find a job - any job - to get out of there and no one will hire me. I can't transfer out because I've been written up, and you can't transfer if you have been written up. I finally agreed to step down because I just can't succeed in this position. This sucks because now I have gone backwards in my career instead of forward. They are transferring me to a position as med nurse - which an LVN can do - and not saying that it's not hard work because it is - but I spent years of time and money on getting a master's degree only to wind up here. At this point I am desperate to do something else. I have no other experience besides dialysis, and that keeps coming back to bite me. I though that maybe I could work med surg for a year or two to get some experience to put on my resume, but no one will hire me. I have applied as an assistant DON at nursing homes and LTACs, but without experience they won't hire me. I have applied for radiology, nurse IT, case management, OR, endoscopy, and a few others I can't think of right now. I even tried to get a job at a doctor's office and NOBODY will hire me. So here I am with 10 years of dialysis experience, a BSN, and MSN......and no prospects. Where do I go from here?
  3. Natkat

    Can't Get Job With MSN

    OH my gosh. I am in the exact same position. I work in dialysis, have a master's degree and can't get hired ANYWHERE! I took the MSN off my resume hoping it would help, but no luck. Just today I got yet another notification that I have been turned down for a med surg position. I don't know what to do. I feel like I wasted many years, a lot of time and so much money getting my education and nothing has come of it. Anyway, I'll create a separate post because I, too, could use some advice.
  4. Natkat

    Advice please

    Thank you for saying this. I think I started one IV in nursing school and haven't done one since. Some people act like I'm horrible because I can't start an IV or do phlebotomy. I've never had to do any of those things as part of my job. Not every nurse can do every skill. Doesn't make me a bad nurse.
  5. Natkat

    I Am Stuck

    A little background to start. I'll try to keep it short but it's a lot. I have been a dialysis nurse my whole career. I took a travel position and they liked me and wanted me to hire on permanently with the contingency that I get my BSN within 2 years. Did that. There was a supervisory position open in the department that had been vacant for 3 years. My coworkers suggested I apply for it. I approached the manager and asked what I needed to do to qualify. She said to enroll in a master's degree program. I didn't have to have the master's degree to start. I just needed to enroll. Did that. They gave the job to someone else. I went ahead and finished my master's degree because I figured I might as well since I started it anyway. All i heard was that if I had a master's degree, I could go anywhere - do anything. It would open doors for me. I took a job as a research nurse for a about year, but between the four hour commute - each day - and the toxic atmosphere, I decided it wasn't for me. I decided to go back to dialysis because I felt comfortable and there wouldn't be a long learning curve. Well. I took a job as the nurse manager at a chronic unit. The prior manager blew the place up. So many things were done wrong - taking patients off 30 minutes early every Saturday so everyone could go home early, no assessments done on new patients at all, charge nurse can't be found and not even physically in the building, and so much more. So I come in to do the job and went through orientation, but the person I would replace refused to train me. I managed to coordinate my own training, sort of, and finished orientation. About a week later BAM! Here comes the state. We had an immediate IJ and have been working under conditions for a couple of months. So now everyone is looking at me like I did it. I barely had any training and I've been working hard to try and learn everything, but to them, I'm not catching on fast enough. The other day I was written up. I have never even been counseled or talked to, much less written up, in all my years as a nurse! I have tried to find a job - any job - to get out of there and no one will hire me. I can't transfer out because I've been written up, and you can't transfer if you have been written up. It could be that maybe I am in over my head and I am not qualified for this. I have made some dumb mistakes, but I feel overwhelmed every single day. There is no time for me to grow into this position because they are coming back some time this week, probably tomorrow, to decide whether or not they are going to close us down. In any other time or place I feel like I could succeed at this, but trying to fix several years with of damage while all my work is under a microscope is just horrible. At this point I am desperate to do something else. I have no other experience besides dialysis, and that keeps coming back to bite me. I thought about maybe working a little while in med surg to get some experience, but to be honest, I don't know if I can keep up. I have applied as an assistant DON at nursing homes and LTACs, but without experience they won't hire me. I have applied for radiology, nurse IT, case management, OR, endoscopy, and a few others I can't think of right now. I even tried to get a job at a doctor's office and NOBODY will hire me. So here I am with 10 years of dialysis experience, a BSN, and MSN......and no prospects. Where do I go from here?
  6. Natkat

    Acute Dialysis job nitemare

    I am a nurse manager at one of the big two. I had an employee call me to say she couldn't come in because she had an emergency with her son. The FA told me to tell her she had to come in. I thought that was horrible.
  7. Natkat

    An Ethical Dilemma- Outstanding Warrants

    I was thinking the same thing. Sometimes I will get a hypothetical question about whether or not I would take care of a pedophile or a murder. I say yes. My job is not to figure out whether or not they are guilty of a crime or to decide their punishment. My job is to be their nurse and focus on giving them quality care.
  8. Rude bullying posts are the baseline here. It accurately reflects the atmosphere of most nursing units I've been to. It's the same snotty condescending crap that nurses dish out to each other, and I still am mystified as to why. I got my degree online and I feel that I got a decent education. It is so difficult to go to school as a nurse. Hours are all over the place. It's hard to get the schedule you want/need to go to physical classes. Online classes are great because you can do your schoolwork when it's best for you. Plus you save lots of time by not having to drive to class, look for parking, walk to class and do the whole thing in reverse.
  9. Natkat

    I Inherited A Bully

    I am so sorry to hear this. I have always been a huge supporter of empowering workers to have more control over their job, but the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction. It is impossible to have any authority over your team. It is like walking a tightrope and I don't have the stomach for it. It is possible that I could try again in another facility, but for now I have decided it's not for me. I had no idea what to do with myself. Then I decided to get help from the career assistance center at my school. They advised me on how to refine my job search and look for things that suit my interests. I was amazed to see how many jobs are out there that aren't direct patient care, but if they hadn't helped me I never would have found out. The next step was they reviewed my resume and helped me change the wording and emphasis my experience to fit the job I want. It paid off! I recently got a job as a research nurse and I am deliriously happy. I wish you the best. I don't know the answer and probably never will. Maybe ask this question in the nurse manager board and someone will have some advice that will help you. I hope you find a solution, and if you do, come back and share it with us. I am curious to know how it works out.
  10. Natkat

    Bait and Switch?

    Words cannot express the relief I feel that you stopped me from making a horrible, terrible mistake. Just the thought of what could have happened if you weren't so kind to point out my character flaws, puts me in the most awful state of panic. Why, just now my heart s beating so fast that I'm very sure it's about to fly out of my chest! Imagine the great relief I feel knowing that you were able to release from laboring under the illusion that I had come to these conclusions based on personal experience and with conversation with the many families I have worked with lo these 9 years as a nurse. I am overjoyed t learn that I had been watching the news this whole time and somehow managed to build up a comfy little 401(k) all the while. I am curious to learn more about this miracle, but goodness me, I must now lie down before I am overcome with the vapors. I am comforted with the knowledge that allnurses.com is here for you to exercise your moral superiority over me so that I can undo the damage I have done to others before you saved me from myself. Bless your kind soul for keeping the ages old tradition of nurses eating their own. Surely we cannot l t this tradition die before it can be wielded at every possible opportunity.
  11. Natkat

    Bait and Switch?

    That is encouraging thank you. The elder care situation in this country is awful. It's kind of a cliche for people to say "we don't believe in putting our family members into a home". Which is misguided and unnecessary. Back in the day when a family member became ill, they might live a year, maybe two, and there was always someone at home taking care of the house, so they could be there to provide medical care for a year or two. Nowadays people can linger for a decade or more before they die. People have no clue of the sacrifice to their personal lives and career that comes with taking care of someone in their home. And you and I have long experience seeing what happens when an over-taxed family can't provide the proper care, and then grandma comes into the hospital malnourished with a raging UTI and wound you put your fist through. Then there is the problem of abuse and exploitation that is far too common. I wish it could become the norm that it's okay to ask for help caring for an elder family member. And I wish there was a system in place for making that happen. But that's a topic for another day.
  12. Natkat

    Bait and Switch?

    Yes I get the distinction. My main question is whether being called a case manager in a hospice or home health setting could be used as case management experience when I apply for a hospital case management position.
  13. Natkat

    Bait and Switch?

    Thanks for shedding some light on this. It does look like a train wreck in motion. Right now patients are being covered by nurses who work in other territories and are helping out until staff are hired and trained. I will be trained by the DON, who also does care and fills in when there is a need. She will be my clinical support person. She seems knowledgeable and capable, but I'm with you. I fear that my lack of skill will come back to bite me later. I know I would do well given enough time, but I have a feeling I'm not going to have the luxury of being fully trained before they turn me loose. I can predict that I will be in many new situations not knowing what I'm doing. I also get a feeling they will hold that against me in the end - finding errors, holding me to a standard I'm not prepared for - and maybe I'm sort of like a place holder for when they can hire a more experienced nurse. And then they'll give me the "you're just not working out" speech. I'm not too worried about documentation. I'm the odd nurse who likes computers and technology. I started my career in medical records, and I was a medical transcriptionist for 15 years before I went to nursing school. I'm not kidding myself though. I know there will be a learning curve, but being relaxed when it comes to technology will help me get through it more quickly. And for me, the documentation and paperwork will be my favorite part! I love doing that kind of stuff. Oh, another thing that they didn't mention in the interview was that they cover a wide territory. So it wouldn't be just driving 20 or 30 miles a day. It could be 100 or more. I would be hard pressed to see all my assigned patients in an 8-hour day. Your clarification is helping me to see that this is not what I want to do. If I want to be a case manager, then I should keep going until I find a case management position. There are things about this I would like - for example, doing more hands-on skills that I haven't done since nursing school and wouldn't mind getting better at, autonomy to work on my own, no coworkers, no politics, no drama. But I don't think the good points will outweigh the bad stuff - long hours driving, wear and tear on my car, potential for getting in over my head without no one to help me get back out, potential safety issues and having to be in filthy houses with multiple animals and hasn't been cleaned in years. Not to mention the unstable management and the potential for having the whole thing collapse without notice. I think I'll keep looking. Thanks for your input.
  14. Natkat

    Bait and Switch?

    Thank you. I was wondering how i was going to have that conversation. I felt like they didn't make that entirely clear in the interview, so I feel like I need to bring that up very soon. Although when I was going through the orientation information a few days ago, they said "we don't use LVNs or aids". So that sounds like I will do all the care myself. I am starting to see some red flags. I guess the larger issue for me is that this seems to establish a pattern of deceit. Do they have a habit of not fully disclosing things we need to know? Then I overheard a staff member telling someone on the phone that they had two nurses but they are "gone" and now they have hired two more - one of them being me. I don't know if "gone" means fired or if they quit. I also heard them say that they "cleaned house" and hired all new staff. This makes me wonder if they are in the habit of just up and firing everybody one day. My supervisor and the administrator are both new to their positions. In the interview they talked about doing community health teaching and being part of community groups as a way of networking. But then one of them slipped and called it "selling". When I asked them to clarify if I would be doing sales they back-pedaled really fast, but it's out there. I am excited about giving presentations as I enjoy public speaking, but then in orientation they said that we could do this "as time allows around our patient care", so I take that to mean probably never. I want to work as a case manager, and I was thinking if I work here for a while I could put case management on my resume. I feel like no matter how bad it is I can hang in there long enough to do that. I have a feeling this place is a hell hole. I see lots of red flags. So I wonder if I should just keep trying to get a job as a case manager some where and not waste my time trying to get experience here if it turns out that I can't sell myself as a case manager.
  15. Natkat

    Bait and Switch?

    Okay. I see. I seems like case management is a big part of the job. I wonder. Can I use that experience to look for a case management job in the future?
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