Colorado - Illegal Immigrants no longer eligble for state health care

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Effective Aug. 1, state services, including the state health plans and welfare, will no longer be given to illegal immigrants in Colorado. This law, enacted by Gov. Bill Owens, in considered the 'toughest in the nation' and other states are expected to follow suit.

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Specializes in Oncology/Haemetology/HIV.
You're right, and I think such collective organizations of workers are normally called Unions.

Actually the term workers was never used. Groups of people that have like opinions on social, financial, political change for the Nation in which they are citizens are better compared to political parties, PACs, etc.

For that matter, many of those that illegally immigrating here could form unions there, if their main interest is employment issues. Someone has to start the movement even if it involves risk - that it how it has occurred in our nation and others.

I have to say that this post has kept me occupied for the past hour. I actually live in Colorado and see all of this stuff on a daily basis. I try not to let all of this "stuff" get to me but I have to say that when some one shows up to the pharmacy with a medicaid card and does not speak english, my bloodpressure rises instantly. I am a pharmacist, and my fiance as well, and together we pay in SOOO much taxes. While in school we both dished out 2k a piece for health insurance for 4 years and the coverage sucked. No labs, ER visits, etc.. Then I see all of these small children coming into the pharmacy with a sniffle and a $75 zithromax prescription and it really frustrates me. When I was growing up we did not go to the doctor unless we NEEDED to go to the doctor. And now with 200K (together) in student loans we have a huge debt to pay off and it makes it frustrating to go to work and deal with these citizens. Just wanted to put in my 2 cents.....oh and I thought that was funny about Minnesota being culturally diverse. My fiance is basically from there and it is the whitest place in America.

Just ranting

I have to say that this post has kept me occupied for the past hour. I actually live in Colorado and see all of this stuff on a daily basis. I try not to let all of this "stuff" get to me but I have to say that when some one shows up to the pharmacy with a medicaid card and does not speak english, my bloodpressure rises instantly. I am a pharmacist, and my fiance as well, and together we pay in SOOO much taxes. While in school we both dished out 2k a piece for health insurance for 4 years and the coverage sucked. No labs, ER visits, etc.. Then I see all of these small children coming into the pharmacy with a sniffle and a $75 zithromax prescription and it really frustrates me. When I was growing up we did not go to the doctor unless we NEEDED to go to the doctor. And now with 200K (together) in student loans we have a huge debt to pay off and it makes it frustrating to go to work and deal with these citizens. Just wanted to put in my 2 cents.....oh and I thought that was funny about Minnesota being culturally diverse. My fiance is basically from there and it is the whitest place in America.

Just ranting

I have to say that this post has kept me occupied for the past hour. I actually live in Colorado and see all of this stuff on a daily basis. I try not to let all of this "stuff" get to me but I have to say that when some one shows up to the pharmacy with a medicaid card and does not speak english, my bloodpressure rises instantly. I am a pharmacist, and my fiance as well, and together we pay in SOOO much taxes. While in school we both dished out 2k a piece for health insurance for 4 years and the coverage sucked. No labs, ER visits, etc.. Then I see all of these small children coming into the pharmacy with a sniffle and a $75 zithromax prescription and it really frustrates me. When I was growing up we did not go to the doctor unless we NEEDED to go to the doctor. And now with 200K (together) in student loans we have a huge debt to pay off and it makes it frustrating to go to work and deal with these citizens. Just wanted to put in my 2 cents.....oh and I thought that was funny about Minnesota being culturally diverse. My fiance is basically from there and it is the whitest place in America.

Just ranting

Specializes in E.D and Tele.

I believe in Immigration, just not the illegal "kind". I am a ER nurse, I do a lot of agency work so I circulate. I see so much of illegal immigrants that are flooding the ER's. Not only that but they demand to be seem in a real brazen way. They know what they can get away with. The hammock will eventually break and then what? Health Care is already going bankrupt. ANd as far as the jobs.....my husband is a carpenter, works for himself, pays taxes and business insurance and advertising. He wants a viable small business......but he can't. He is being underbidded by Contractors that use illegals while they watch them sweat from their brand new pick-ups. They don't lift a finger, just smoke a pack of cigarettes watching them do grunt work....then pay them nothing so 30 of them have to live in one house. So needless to say, my husband doesn't work much, he won't do this type of practice, so, hence, I work 50-60 hrs a week to get by and never see our kids. Illegals are killing me too. It just isn't right. Let's send this thread to Bush, because he is doing nothing right now about our borders.........and it is only going to get worse.

Bindy

PS: Sorry for rambling, but it's the only therapy I can afford........I don't get free health care.

you know I think we should do a little more advocating. after all, the united states is built on immigrants. Our ancestors were all immagrants. or have we all forgotten this. if they are illegal, make them legal and then they can pay like the rest of us have to do, but arbitrally cutting off healthcare is asking for trouble down the road, look at the disease,etc they are or can be bringing to us and we may be sending back with them........

Enforce labor lawe so contractors have to pay wages, OT, and all required deductions for their employees.

We treat undocumented aliens better in this country than they are treated in their own country. I live in So California and I see the devastation to people born in this country and people who are here illegally. Another topic: As soon as the foreiners get here, they bring their parents here. They go to the Social Security Office and the parents are put on Social Security benefits. If you ever visit the office you will see people of all nationalities waiting to get their benefits and have not worked a day in this country. Hospitals are closing in California because illegals can walk into a hospital and are treated. They do not pay for services. Women wait in their cars and go into the hospital and have their babies. Now they are citizens and the Mom goes and applies for welfare as soon as she gets the birth certificate......

On point, WE allow illegals to come here for a stated purpose: to do the work Americans will not do at that price. We are shamelessly taking advantage of their home situations.

How unethical is it to recruit people here so that we can treat them WORSE then we would treat any of our own (who are protected by minimum wage laws.)? We could close our borders almost immediately. We do not, and that is a political decision.

Who says Americans wouldn't do the work? I agree it is unethical to recruit them and then maltreat them. Blame it on greedy business owners.

I just have to put my two cents in on this. First off, I presently work in a law firm as a Paralegal and many of our clients are in this country illegally. We do employment law among other things. They from Mexico or El Salvador and use social security cards with some legal person's SS number to get work. Most of the employers know they are illegal but don't care because our Gov't does not enforce the law. The truth is that these illegal's drive down the wages which affect legal workers because they will work for less. That is a negative, not a positive. They know that using a fake SS card with a legal person's number is illegal, but they don't care. I had a friend who was contacted by the IRS informing him that he owed back taxes from employment that he did not even have. His number was used by an illegal immigrant. Another negative. There has been Emergency rooms shut down in SoCal because they ran out of money "mostly" due to treating illegals without insurance.

Another thing, they are protected by employment laws. These people are in this country illegally, use fake SS cards to get a job, illegally. Some are discriminated, wrongfully terminated for reasons including becoming injured at work and filing for workers' compensation. Okay, what is wrong here? They should not have had the job in the first place because they are illegal but they can still sue. They still can receive workers' comp benefits and state disability for becoming injured on a job that they legally were not supposed to have. Our country only cares about others, not it's own.

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how can an someone who is here illegally get social security?

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how can an someone who is here illegally get social security?

They cannot, as far as I know. People from other countries come here legally and bring their elderly parents who have never worked a day in their life here in the U.S. and do get Social Security. Grant you, it is not a lot, maybe $200 or $400 a month, but they still get it which is wrong in my opinion.

They shouldn't be citizens by definition. That is a bad intepretation of a Constitutional Amendment meant for a different group altogether and that has a TWO FOLD test: born here AND subject to our laws.

On point, WE allow illegals to come here for a stated purpose: to do the work Americans will not do at that price. We are shamelessly taking advantage of their home situations.

How unethical is it to recruit people here so that we can treat them WORSE then we would treat any of our own (who are protected by minimum wage laws.)? We could close our borders almost immediately. We do not, and that is a political decision.

So, now that we've DECIDED, by lack of enforcement, to allow these people here so that we can treat them less then what we have already legally defined as basic human dignity, laws like this merely add insult to the considerable injury we already envisioned for them.

Simply put, illegal immigration is slavery by another name.

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~faith,

Timothy.

They risk life and limb to get here. That dosen't sound too much like slavery. How would you solve the problem of sucking our medical tax dollars? Some hard decisions are going to have to be made. I applaud your Gov.

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