Nurses Disciplined, Fired for Wearing Hospital-Issued Scrubs

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Every day when Cliff Willmeng, RN, got home from a shift in the emergency department (ED), he took off his scrubs in a spot in the garage delineated with red duct tape, a spot his kids knew not to walk through. Then he raced through his house in his underwear, delaying hugs to his kids, heading straight to the shower. He hoped the routine would help keep COVID-19 away from his family.

The policy at his hospital, United Hospital in St. Paul, Minnesota, dictates that emergency department nurses and technicians wear personal scrubs, laundered at home, whereas physicians and physician assistants can wear hospital-issued scrubs that are laundered on site.

One day, Willmeng decided enough was enough. Why should colleagues who worked in the same space for the same 12-hour shifts be subjected to different uniform restrictions? Why should he have to worry about coronavirus-saturated clothes when other employees at the same hospital didn't?

Several years ago, according to Zetella Caauwe, RN, the hospital started requiring ED nurses to wear their own navy blue scrubs. Cauuwe, who has worked at United for 23 years, says they made the change so that patients could distinguish nurses from doctors, who wore seal blue hospital-issued scrubs. But the policies vary from one hospital to the next in the same health system, and even from one department to the next in the same hospital.

Tired of the duality and fearing for his family's health, Willmeng and some of his nursing colleagues started wearing hospital-issued scrubs and changing on site.

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37 minutes ago, Tait said:

Now pretty much everyone in the hospital seems to be in them and I am waiting to hear how much we have lost in cleaning and missing sets.

While I don't agree with the firing, I also don't agree with just "going and grabbing them anyway." It was an opportunity on both sides to come up with a plan to disperse scrubs, not lose a ton of money, and help the staff feel safer.

I agree.

I know I'm in the minority here, but I think the irate responses are a bit disproportionate.

If he really didn't want to wear his scrubs home, he could have.....just brought an extra pair of clothes and changed into them before he left? That's literally exactly what the people who wear hospital scrubs do, and provides the exact same protection. He'd just have to put his scrubs in a trash bag and throw them directly into his washing machine. His hospital may even have a shower that he could use before he changes and leaves.

I do think it's crappy that the providers get this perk and bedside staff don't, but I also don't think it was wise for him to just break the rules. It isn't fair for one person to break the rules and get away with it, and it wouldn't be sustainable if everybody started doing it all at once against the rules.

Hospitals have enough logistical stuff to deal with right now simply trying to ensure that we have the right staffing in the right areas, and enough PPE to keep everybody safe. I don't think this super-complicated, super-expensive proposition should take priority when you literally get the same protection by changing into street clothes when you leave.

I understand needing to be mindful of costs to avoid furlough/layoffs, but to not even provide the option and then to fire someone is asinine, and sets a nasty precedent.

36 minutes ago, CaffeinePOQ4HPRN said:

I understand needing to be mindful of costs to avoid furlough/layoffs, but to not even provide the option and then to fire someone is asinine, and sets a nasty precedent.

Usually I'd agree, but the article states that he repeatedly told admin (even the CNO!) that he wanted to wear hospital scrubs, and they repeatedly told him no.

If I were repeatedly breaking a rule that got escalated all of the way up to the CNO, who explicitly told me not to do something, then yes, I would expect to be fired for completely disregarding the rules and doing it anyway. I get the sense that there were probably a number of verbal and written warnings before he got to that point.

It would be very different if the hospital sent out a mass email saying that it wasn't allowed, then some random nurse did it anyway; in that case, it would be more appropriate for the nurse to get a verbal (or maybe written) warning.

Edit to add: I also understand it from an admin felt to need to nip this in the bud. Nurses at that hospital had been organizing sit-ins to demand hospital scrubs. If those nurses had repeatedly worn hospital scrubs (despite warnings) without getting in trouble, then tons of people would probably start doing it. At that point, it would be pretty hard to stop the process.

Just because the OR cases were down doesn't mean that there were enough scrubs to outfit all of the nurses who wanted them. Without a system in place and a huge increase in their inventory, I'm sure they'd start to run out; then, people who actually need them wouldn't be able to get them. Planned OR cases may have slowed down, but the staff for emergency surgeries and C-sections in L&D still need scrubs ASAP. The surgeons can't just go in wearing their t-shirts because the scrubs were being used by other unauthorized staff.

23 hours ago, LovingPeds said:

On another note, I really dislike when people pretend that the specifically colored scrubs mean anything to anyone outside of the hospital environment. As a patient myself, I couldn't care less what color my nurse is wearing and I'm not wanting to be bothered to learn what the colors mean when at a facility. Call me old fashioned, but I recognize faces and like introductions. Also in my experience, a lot of patients assume that anyone who comes into their room in scrubs is a nurse unless they've been introduced as otherwise. I've often wondered if the forced color code is really effective for patients as they claim or a way to identify what your random coworker in the hallway does. Anyone have any experience or input because I'm truly curious?

I once had a patient tell me that the "nurses in red" (CNAs) were really excellent and did a great job. They also said that the "nurses in blue" (RNs) did alright, but that they were still learning.

And when I worked in a hospital with a large population of heroin addicts, they were very into uniform color as the RNs were the ones giving Dilaudid. Some would outright reject LVNs as their primary nurses for fear that their medication might be "late".

Other than those cases, I've never observed that patients notice or care who's wearing what.

Do patients even stay in the hospital long enough to learn what all the different colors mean?

Specializes in Critical Care.

I hope he files for unemployment and files a wrongful termination suit with the help of the MNA!

This behavior by admin speaks of so much disrespect. To me it is tantamount to when someone ripped a mask off a nurse's face. We are in the middle of a fricken life threatening pandemic and mgmt doesn't give a *** and wants to make an example of someone who is simply trying to protect his family! They are the heartless ones and should be ashamed of themselves. Glad there are still nurses willing to speak up and not give in. Hope he prevails in court!

And so stupid on the part of mgmt! They just gave themselves a big black eye for the public! Remember we are heroes now and they won't forget this!

Specializes in Cardiology.

Our floor was turned into the covid floor at my hospital. A senior nurse fought for us to get surgical scrubs. So now before and after every shift we change into surgical scrubs while caring for covid positive pt's which is really nice. It's a shame this hospital is firing nurses over something so petty and as someone said it really shows how "valuable" nurses are to the current healthcare system.

On 6/1/2020 at 8:27 AM, Daisy Joyce said:

Do patients even stay in the hospital long enough to learn what all the different colors mean?

Some may. Most don't. When my mom was in the hospital, I figured it out in about 2 seconds because I knew to look for it. Frequent flyers will figure it out.

That said, my hospital does not color code nursing staff. RNs and CNAs wear whatever personal scrubs they want. Some go with basic solid colors, while others have a variety of patterns and may even mix it up seasonally.

On 5/30/2020 at 5:12 PM, adventure_rn said:

If he really didn't want to wear his scrubs home, he could have.....just brought an extra pair of clothes and changed into them before he left? That's literally exactly what the people who wear hospital scrubs do, and provides the exact same protection. He'd just have to put his scrubs in a trash bag and throw them directly into his washing machine. His hospital may even have a shower that he could use before he changes and leaves.

My hospital refused the union's request for nurses to have access to hospital-provided scrubs during our COVID surge. It was a bit galling because the surgical residents all still got them, even though surgeries were cancelled. I didn't care so much about the scrubs themselves, but what the decision said about our relative "worth" to the hospital.

But, the hospital DID provide several areas for people to shower at the hospital, if they wanted to. I don't know how many people availed themselves fo the offer. None of the showers were situated particularly conveniently to the COVID units, so I never bothered.

I suppose I could change into street clothes at work without showering, but there's not really a good place for it. We don't even have a changing room anywhere near the COVID unit, so I'd rather wear my scrubs home, drop them at the door, and run to the shower than change my clothes in a hospital bathroom.

Specializes in LTC, NEUROLOGY, REHAB.

Here in the UK my local NHS Trust have been given scrubs of all sizes and colours - they were all donated by local people making them at home! When working within the hospital we wear whatever colour scrubs were available and they are ours to use as long as we need them....but we also have to launder them ourselves - which I vehemently disagree with particularly as I work on a 100% Covid19 ward now which means I have been relocated to the main hospital. This means I now have to pay for my parking every day, and do extra laundry to keep mine away from the rest of the family. Oh the joy....

Specializes in Med-Surg/Tele/ER/Urgent Care.

@BSNbeDONE I am appalled that the MDs, PAs, & NPs at your facility are relying on nurses to do their job! I work in FQHC that has 6 different clinics. We are doing outdoor “curbside” visits for those patients that a telehealth or telephone visit will not suffice. It’s not perfect, but I have adjusted to getting history and modified physical exam, with exception of abdominal exam. Those patients come in back door to give urine sample Andy abdomen exam. Portable otoscope for ENT exams. We remind patients to wear shoes they can quickly remove & loose clothing. We are using FaceTime & Google duo also. It the providers responsibility to do the. Physical exam. That’s not saying that nurses aren’t capable, after all it is nurses that call the doc in hospitals when a patient condition worsens.

Just curious about your facility allowing providers that get paid bigger bucks then nurses staying home. We have limited ppe, my n95 is 5 weeks old, face shield OK, cover gowns get lysoled afternoon each patient.

I've never understood the color coded scrubs. As someone else said, the only patients that care are the ones looking to be medicated.

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