My preceptor is everything they taught us NOT to be...

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I was hired on a med-surge floor, and have been working with a preceptor for several weeks. After questioning some of the things she is "teaching" me, I've been given a "final warning" and am facing termination over complaints made to my manager "per preceptor".

I a new grad from an excellent, small hospital based program where the instructors have tons of professional and life experience, and we leave feeling like confident, competent New Grads. I was assigned to a preceptor who has just over a year experience, and was impressed by my clinical skills, stating she didn't learn anything in school. I've noticed the following things that have caused me to question her practice and ability to precept. I would like some opinions on whether I'm over reacting, or valid in my concerns...

Pt has a stage 4 pressure ulcer on her coccyx, wet to dry dsg changes ordered q day. I observed while she changed the dressing. No sterile field, no sterile gloves, out clean gloves on, removed the dsg and packing, never changed the gloves, soaked the packing with her gloves hands, repacked and dressed the wound.

If my pt has multiple IV meds ordered for the same time she told me to scan them all, hang one, and leave the rest to be hung when it finishes. I don't sign for meds that haven't been given.

Non verbal pt has orders for blood glucose monitoring and insulin sliding scale. 0630 fingersick done, pt does not score for coverage. 0800 the tech who came on did another finger stick and pt needs 2 units. At 1000 preceptor says that pt needs coverage, I never signed off on the task (he didn't score when it was ordered). 1030 administering meds, recheck fingerstick and pt needs 2 units. I signed off on the 0700 order (outside of parameters), charted the new reading, gave the insulin at 1030 for the 1100 order. That's wrong, I should have covered him for 0700 and rechecked at 1100. I told her I don't think I should give insulin 2.5 hours after a fingerstick without a recheck. Or cannot even tell us if he's feeling off, and is npo with tube feeds.

New admission two days post discharge. Dementia, not a good historian of her medical hx. Form asks "has pt had a flu shot". Preceptor states "I don't know for sure, but they must have given it on d/c. Charts that she had it and pneumonia vax on date of last d/c.

We were told that no blood pressure meds are to be given without a. BP within 30 minutes. She was not there that day. It is 0920, pt has a bp charted for 0811, but the techs do vs at 0700, it was charted at 0811. "Give it, it's fine". Next pt is on a beta blocker, calcium channel blocker, and 80mg lasix. I rechecked the BP and she seemed quite annoyed.

I heard her giving report in the hall outside a pt room. Openly discussing hx of drug abuse, etc. Another pt is a registered sex offender, I overheard her telling a tech from another dept. His reason for being a sex offender.

I had a pt who was on two iv and, including vancomyicin. The day before she had IV contrast. Her BUN and Creatinine were elevated, GFR was around 40 the day before. She told me in the am that she is usually up four times a night to void but hasn't been up once. I report this to preceptor. After a little bit, I got her up to the commode where she voids 40mls. At lunch I got her up again and she voids 60. I went to preceptor who tells me that she went for her. I asked if I should call the doc just to be safe, she says she will take care of it. End of shift I asked, she said pt is fine, no need. RN I am reporting to ask about output, I explained it to him and he called provider.

I could keep going, but I feel like a vindictive crazy person. I know these are bad habits, and refuse to adopt them into my own practice. She wants all of my tasks and charting to be done by 10am. I often do not reach that because I choose to assist pts with am care, breakfast, ect. The charting can wait in my opinion, as long as everything is done on time. I have one foot out the door anyway, and will likely be fired today. I can deal with that, I definitely can, but I was advices by a mentor to approach her, I tried, and yo go to the manager, I asked him to meet with me, and he told me that he has continued to receive negative feedback from my preceptor and will discuss it with me. I know I'm being fired, and there's not much to do to change that, unfortunately being fired means I will not be eligible for 're-hire at the one hospital near me. But, what do I do about this preceptor? Let it go so the next new nurse can learn these poor habits, or try to bring it to someone else's attention?

Thanks for listening, sorry about the extremely long post...I refuse to adapt bad habits just yet, or sit back while patient safety is compromised, unless of course I'm being an over reactive cry baby.

Specializes in Public Health.

I'm not trying to dog-pile on the OP but you got a little to big for your britches. I also think it may have been a clash of personalities as well.

As far as charting goes, that HAS to be done, that's a legal document with your name attached. If you wait til after your shift to chart a change in assessment you may forget something or, if the pt codes and dies, it may look like you didn't assess the pt timely and you're trying to C.Y.A. Time management is one of THE most important skills you will learn as a nurse.

Specializes in ER, ICU/CCU, Open Heart OR Recovery, Etc.

Try and get specific dates, times, concrete examples of how you are not meeting expectations. Be proactive and ask for a performance improvement plan that doesn't involve straight opinions. Is there a specific competency list or competency standards that you are expected to meet by a certain date, and if so, how are you NOT meeting them? Make them give you specific behaviors or goals they want you to accomplish by a specific date. I'd also get the Staff Development or Nursing Education Department involved, and document your participation.

I don't think it would be a bad idea to ask for a new preceptor. At the same time, I also think I'd be looking for another job.

Specializes in Critical Care and ED.

I get it. You're a new nurse and you want to be perfect and "make a difference". All I can say is welcome to nursing...in the REAL world. One hard lesson I had to learn (and it took me over 20 years to learn it) is that it doesn't matter how good a nurse you are, and it doesn't matter how much you know. It's all about if people like you and how you are perceived. If you don't learn that hard lesson early on you're in for a very rough ride. Does it make it right? Does it make it ok? Absolutely not, but it's what really happens on a nursing floor. It's about making things work for you AND doing your best for the patient AND for you AND still complete all the requirements of management AND keep the patient's family happy, AND get all your charting done on time AND manage to not pi$$ anybody off AND still be smiling at the end of it. Don't sweat the small stuff. None of this is a competition. The only competition you have to worry about is making people like you and keeping your job. Really, it's the truth. As long as you're the preceptee and she's the preceptor, you have no say. Keep your head down, your mouth closed and get through the day unscathed. I've learned that I will NEVER complain about anybody again. As soon as you do, the spotlight's on you and it burns.

How badly do you want to keep your job? Getting terminated will have lasting consequences for you. If you have one foot out the door already, maybe this job is not salvageable.

As a new grad, your chances of landing a better job are much greater if you have experience. Even if the experience is in an imperfect workplace.

Unless there is more to the story then you have told us, I don't see why you would be fired. You haven't done anything to jeopardize your patients, or impair customer service. You've only annoyed your preceptor.

And, yes you have been stuck with a crummy one. It seems he/she has missed some teaching opportunities. A discussion should have taken place as to why you didn't need another BP, or why the low urine output was accecptable, etc.

That being said, while on orientation you need to "go with the flow". If she wants certain charting done by 10, get it done by 10. I've gone through a few new employee orientations, and I've figured out I need to just do things the way my preceptor wants them done while taking what learning opportunities I can from them. Sometimes I have to bite my tongue, but sometimes I gain a new perspective on something I've come across a hundred times.

Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
Sorry, I was not trying to be sarcastic in my comment, not at all. I'm brand new to nursing, and really don't know anything. I put my head down and didn't say a word for several weeks until she started hammering me with bad feedback, even then I only asked her a couple of times why she does things the way she does. I'm lacking in nursing experience, but have plenty of life experience, and am not out to be an arrogant b####. I didn't "tattle" on her, I didn't talk to anyone else in that department or the manager about any of this. Seriously, if an orientee asks why you do things a certain way, especially when all of your clinical experience was at a different hospital, than why take offense? I really did not try to come off that way, maybe I did, who knows, and apparently I'm coming off that way here.

Here's the thing - some of what you describe does come across as nit-picking but still honest in you quest to understand. I keep coming back to the wound dressing change you describe. Even our wound care doc does not do sterile dressing changes on these wounds. It is considered a clean procedure not a sterile one. I have preceptored several new grads and I always asks as I going along - do you have any questions.

Hppy

One hard lesson I had to learn (and it took me over 20 years to learn it) is that it doesn't matter how good a nurse you are, and it doesn't matter how much you know. It's all about if people like you and how you are perceived.

There is so much truth to this. If you are well-liked by patients, peers, and supervisors, often you will be given many opportunities for remediation, as opposed to someone who makes the same mistakes that is not well-liked.

I've seen some really shoddy care, but the patients had no idea- they just thought that nurse was "so nice". And you absolutely shouldn't try and correct their misperception, as this undermines the patient's confidence in the care they are receiving. Talking about the nurse behind their back is also a very bad idea, because you never know who they are best friends with or related to- for all you know, they could be besties with your unit manager, or the sister in law of the CEO.

Of course we should intervene if we see something dangerous or unsafe- but as a new grad, you don't know what you don't know. Unless something is blatantly dangerous, you need to keep your head down and get through your orientation. If something makes you uncomfortable or you don't understand, ask questions before judging. Keep an open mind that there is more than one way to get something done.

Specializes in Med Surg.

My primary preceptor, a 30-year nurse, was clueless. Almost no clinical skills, no computer skills, no time management skills (other than taking her breaks), zero ability to plan, react, or adjust to situations. No interest in taking initiative. Completely clueless on the use of the EMR system. Not able to use any electronic tools or resources. Not able to and no interest in figuring out multiple IVs or compatibility. No interest in patient progress or planning. Never tried to figure out a thing for herself, always called and blamed the doctor or pharmacist and even refused verbal orders when she got responses (she didn't know how to use Epic to implement the orders). The only thing she ever did was double-check my medications.

Every time. Even on our last day. That's all she did. "I'm making sure we keep our licenses."

I pretended to pay rapt attention to everything she said or did, got through preceptorship with glowing reviews and began doing nothing the way she did when I got on my own. (I did have other very good preceptors and some other excellent mentors.)

I worked on that unit four years, gained excellent experience, and moved on. She is still there giving nurses a really bad name. Every day I hope she retires.

Specializes in ED, ICU, PSYCH, PP, CEN.

All of the previous posters have given you excellent advice. I just want to chime in and say that charting is soooo important. If it wasn't charted "it wasn't done" and if your patient has a problem and a baseline assessment hasn't been charted it will be interpreted that you have done nothing for your patient yet. That looks bad at 1300.

All of the previous posters have given you excellent advice. I just want to chime in and say that charting is soooo important. If it wasn't charted "it wasn't done" and if your patient has a problem and a baseline assessment hasn't been charted it will be interpreted that you have done nothing for your patient yet. That looks bad at 1300.

That depends on the hospital policy of how quickly/by what time assessments are expected to be charted. I agree that it may "look bad" if an assessment isn't charted by late morning, but I had times back when I was a floor nurse that I couldn't get to charting until late in the afternoon - and that was considered acceptable where I worked at the time.

Specializes in Medical-Surgical/Float Pool/Stepdown.
Keep your head down, your mouth closed and get through the day unscathed. I've learned that I will NEVER complain about anybody again. As soon as you do, the spotlight's on you and it burns.

Such words to the wise, regardless, you've got to learn how to play nicely together in the sandbox!

Specializes in Allergy/ENT, Occ Health, LTC/Skilled.

Isn't it something that how well you do in nursing comes down to how well your liked and not how well you work?! Maybe it is because I am a nurse, but the one time I did have somewhat of an emergency condition (UTI that went systemic, had no I idea I even had one, just puking/confused as all get out), my nurse was rough around the edges, but she figured out what I had quicker than the intern could even think and she pretty much told him what to order LOL. I do see importance in being pleasant, and I try myself to be, but for me personally, as long as your good, I don't care how chit chatty or cheery you are.

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