Okay, I did a search for GOD and came up with 200 pages of 5492 threads. Perhaps what I am looking for was somewhere in there, but WOW! The closest I have come were these posts which clearly show than an abundance of people DO believe in God:
I am curious about the number of people who do NOT believe in a traditional Higher Power.
What brought me to this was a recent theological discussion with my Jewish girlfriend. We are basically on the same wavelength (so I suppose thats good for us), where she believes in the God who created everything but doesnt care about what happens in the world, only about the outcome, (sort of like a science experiment), and I believe only in the POSSIBILITY of such an entity but not in the context of any organized religion which I have come across thus far. (Satanism is the closest I have found to what I believe, though even that seems to not be all encompassing. I do not prescribe to any religion so please don't get hung up on a particular reference or lack of here and miss the point of my question.)
I DO BELIEVE RELIGION IS NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN CIVILIZED SOCIETIES!!! I just have no faith in the whole omnipotent, omniscient, loving God thing to whom we should devote our lives, depriving ourselves of certain experiences that seem to be the very nature of our existence, spending time on our knees seeking guidance from and worshiping. I AM NOT CRITICIZING ANYONE FOR PRACTICING RELIGION!!!
My question is this: do you all feel it is necessary for a care provider to believe in and/or have faith in God or does it matter if he/she believes there might not be a second chance in "Heaven" and have only one FINITE life to live so therefore it is mandatory to ensure everyone gets the best possible chance to be happy and make our marks (so to speak) the only time around?
I have read this thread several times and keep asking myself why you were searching for God to begin with. Can't imagine a world so small that it only extends to what humans can create.
My only point was that I am a human being, (I even admitted my comment to probably be a bit immature), and I think nurses, cops, and marines (along with lawyers, CEOs, wall-street types, paramedics, firefighters and a whole SLEW of other women in positions where they are allowed to exhibit something other than the traditional roles of the woman) are sexy. That's how I feel, you don't have to approve of or even like it, but certainly no one is going to change it simply by saying I should go ask someone else how THEY feel.
Damaging to what? Your ego? This makes it sound like you think I am not entitled to feel this way about women because you are one, I'm not, and you think I am wrong. Or maybe it's deeper than that?
No damaging to the nursing profession as a whole. I'm glad that you admitted it was immature. But that you can't see that your stereotyping and are being somewhat disrespectful and sexist is what is disappointing. Sounds like you were talking to your buddies in the gym locker room, instead of message board surrounded by those same females.
That you find females sexy is not the issue. I happen to like a man in uniform myself (not scrubs mind you but police and firemen, etc.) but wouldn't go to a message board full of cops and talk trash.
So open your mind a slight bit, you are being a bit more than "probably a bit immature".
Specializes in LTC,Hospice/palliative care,acute care.
Originally posted by 3rdShiftGuy
No damaging to the nursing profession as a whole. I'm glad that you admitted it was immature. But that you can't see that your stereotyping and are being somewhat disrespectful and sexist is what is disappointing. Sounds like you were talking to your buddies in the gym locker room, instead of message board surrounded by those same females.
That you find females sexy is not the issue. I happen to like a man in uniform myself (not scrubs mind you but police and firemen, etc.) but wouldn't go to a message board full of cops and talk trash.
So open your mind a slight bit, you are being a bit more than "probably a bit immature".
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Great post-only a Neanderthal would fail to recognize the implications of those remarks.................Now I'll quote And unless you are an obtuse male you realize the implications inherent in these remarks-that only women in "positions of power" are capable-take charge,business -like and capable of thinking on their feet.......b-r-i-n-g...b-r-i-n-g-there is that phone again....The stay at home mother of 6 kids is ALL OF THOSE THINGS...A man that finds women "in powerful postions" a sexual turn-on is a guy with a fetish -check out the Yahoo clubs-lots of stuff to interest a guy who is interested in submission...."Frustrated with the feminist thing that personifies men as being idiot sexists blah blah blah...." Well-nurses have gotten tired of the way men and some of society in general and the media has continued to sexualize nurses-as sex kittens in tight short white uniforms(and that's my line-not Eddye's) Nurses standing threateningly over a submissive male-dressed in white heels,stockings....and a nursing cap...Hello-that is the image the Media industry has adopted for nurses-it's also seen in music videos and mainstream movies....(o my goodness I am having so much fun....and is this really Mario with spell and grammar check runing?)
I find it more amazing that an entity created earth and the universe in 6 days and people actually BELIEVE it. I mean, really?
You say you don't like people shoving their religious beliefs down other's throats, but you have made a point (a few times on this thread) to sarcastically shove your disbelief and distate of Christianity down ours. Why do you seem so hostile?
Personally, I believe in God and Jesus Christ as the son of God. But whether someone else believes, or not, is their own decision and I will care for them and love them anyway.
I don't understand why people have to take religion and fight about it. I am a Christian. I try VERY hard not to knock anybody else's religion, even if I don't understand their views in the slightest. If you were to say to me, "I am a Buddhist, Satanist, insert your religion here", I would say, "Oh really? Tell me about it, what do you believe? How did you come to that belief?" in a sincere and inquisitive way. AND I would be sincerely interested. I believe my way, I would not change my beliefs, but I am quite curious about what makes others tick.
If I say to many people, that I am a Christian, that I believe in God and Jesus and the Bible, many times I get quite a bit of crap. "How can you believe THAT?!" like I have the IQ of a rabbit pellet.
You may say they have been turned off by hypocritical Christians. Well there are hypocrites in all segments of society and religions, not just Christianity.
But back to the thread topic, if a person is compassionate, intelligent and able to think on their feet, they will bring a good deal to their practice of nursing. BUT if a patient asks for prayer, what do you do? For Jews and Christians, I pray to God. If a Muslim asks, I tell I will pray to my God, whom they call Allah, since I have been informed that Muslims believe the Old Testament up until the story of Abraham and his sons, then they split off into their religion. If it's someone else, I tell them my religion is not theirs, and they may pray, or I will pray to my God for them. Usually this is met with agreement. My question is, if you are atheist or agnostic, or Buddhist or Hindu or whatever other religion than Jew/Christian, what do YOU do in this situation? Just curious. Do you pray? Do you let them and just be with them? Do you call someone for them?
I'm a new nurse, and have only been asked to pray on one occasion. I was a little surprised by the request, but was happy to do it. My beliefs are my own, and I won't let them get in the way of providing for the needs of my pt.
You say you don't like people shoving their religious beliefs down other's throats, but you have made a point (a few times on this thread) to sarcastically shove your disbelief and distate of Christianity down ours. Why do you seem so hostile?
Well said. Noticed this pattern on this board from several people, which is why i don't 'preach on'. Way too easy to 'keep on'. To each their own. I need that printed on a Tshirt.
I am in a steparenting role for three children. I am Lutheran, my dtr and stepdaughter and stepson (older) are atheists. My younger stepson is Catholic like his dad and my son is a Jehovahs Witness. So with that being said we have interesting discussions LOL. I have learned about other religions and find it very interesting.
You say you don't like people shoving their religious beliefs down other's throats, but you have made a point (a few times on this thread) to sarcastically shove your disbelief and distate of Christianity down ours. Why do you seem so hostile?
Personally, I believe in God and Jesus Christ as the son of God. But whether someone else believes, or not, is their own decision and I will care for them and love them anyway.
To God be the glory.
I was brought up as a christian, but choose my own beliefs now. If you want to believe, I think it's good for you. Infact, it must be nice to have something spiritual to guide you. I'm just too sceptical! :chuckle I don't know why you think I am "sarcastically shoving my disbelief and distaste" of christinity down yours. I am not hostile, (OK, I am sarcastic, I admit ) but my beliefs are as valid as any anyone's. I actually find it offensive that people think they are better than me because they believe in God, and that it makes them a better nurse. It's about who we are as a person, as a whole being.
) but my beliefs are as valid as any anyone's. I actually find it offensive that people think they are better than me because they believe in God, and that it makes them a better nurse. It's about who we are as a person, as a whole being.
purplemania, BSN, RN
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I have read this thread several times and keep asking myself why you were searching for God to begin with. Can't imagine a world so small that it only extends to what humans can create.