Mandating vaccine for children

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Here's what Pfizer had to say about the use of the vaccine for children under 12:

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-positive-topline-results

It's not impossible mandates may son follow and apply to children,  particularly for attending school. 

How do you feel about the potential for this vaccine to be required for children?

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Just now, jive turkey said:

That's not entirely true

That is absolutely entirely true.  The fact that you offered no evidence to support your disagreement with that post is evidence you can't dispute that.

Personally, I prefer that my three kids be alive as opposed to dead.  You seem to disagree with that.

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3 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

1.That is absolutely entirely true.  The fact that you offered no evidence to support your disagreement with that post is evidence you can't dispute that.

2.Personally, I prefer that my three kids be alive as opposed to dead.  You seem to disagree with that.

1.No it is not true.  Supporting peer reviewed studies have been shared multiple times to the effect why someone may decline a vaccine.  

2. You made that up on your own

 

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1 minute ago, jive turkey said:

1.No it is not true.  Supporting peer reviewed studies have been shared multiple times to the effect why someone may decline a vaccine.  

2. You made that up on your own

 

You've provided not a single study that supported the idea that someone who has previously infected could indefinitely decline a vaccine, not a single one.

You're repeated suggestion that someone who has been previously infected has no need to ever be vaccinated is recklessly dangerous.

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3 minutes ago, jive turkey said:

1.No it is not true.  Supporting peer reviewed studies have been shared multiple times to the effect why someone may decline a vaccine.  

2. You made that up on your own

 

I would clarify that initially I was unsure why the US wasn't recognizing some timeframe for which vaccination after infection was not necessary.  I found the various reason for that stance hard to believe.  I found it unlikely that anyone actually thought that coronavirus infection conferred lifelong immunity, particularly since we are already very familiar with coronaviruses and the type and duration of immunoprotection that coronavirus infection confers.  I've been unpleasantly surprised at how many actually believe this to be true, and will persistently argue this absurd claim to support the idea that those previously infected will never need vaccination.

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5 minutes ago, MunoRN said:

I would clarify that initially I was unsure why the US wasn't recognizing some timeframe for which vaccination after infection was not necessary.  I found the various reason for that stance hard to believe.  I found it unlikely that anyone actually thought that coronavirus infection conferred lifelong immunity, particularly since we are already very familiar with coronaviruses and the type and duration of immunoprotection that coronavirus infection confers.  I've been unpleasantly surprised at how many actually believe this to be true, and will persistently argue this absurd claim to support the idea that those previously infected will never need vaccination.

It doesn't appear anyone knows conclusively how long natural immunity lasts. An argument pro or contra vaccination shouldn't be based on that. 

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13 hours ago, hppygr8ful said:

The only way to bring this under some semblence of control wil be though mass vacination.

Pshaw. That's what they said about polio before it just disappeared on it's own.

In fact, a very stable genius made the prediction that Covid would just disappear before we even knew the vaccine was possible.  

"Covid, Covid, Covid, Covid.' By the way, on November 4, you won't hear about it anymore,"

Of course, he didn't say which Nov 4, but we have one annually, so one of these years.....

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On 9/22/2021 at 7:34 PM, jive turkey said:

Here's what Pfizer had to say about the use of the vaccine for children under 12:

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-positive-topline-results

It's not impossible mandates may son follow and apply to children,  particularly for attending school. 

How do you feel about the potential for this vaccine to be required for children?

We’ve started to see some pretty sick kids lately. My kids are getting vaccinated as soon as it’s available for their age, and this was already my plan, but I’ll be especially relieved when they can be vaccinated. 

I support vaccine mandates. If people want to participate and benefit from society there’s a duty to do one’s part. 

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Good, I can't wait til the vaccine is approved for my son who is 3, it will only be a matter of time. I think it should be mandatory if they want to go to public school. If someone is against it then go to a different school, it should be that way until it's available to all ages to be protected.  I don't want to lose my son because of COVID and I don't care who that offends. 

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9 hours ago, jive turkey said:

It doesn't appear anyone knows conclusively how long natural immunity lasts. 

And that is exactly why vaccination with boosters is required. 

 

9 hours ago, jive turkey said:

An argument pro or contra vaccination shouldn't be based on that. 

Based on what? You are making this up as you go along. 

GIVE US THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU SAY IS OUT THERE!

If arguments can't be made then show us why. It's not rocket surgery or brain science. Show us the evidence.

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7 hours ago, HiddencatBSN said:

1.We’ve started to see some pretty sick kids lately. My kids are getting vaccinated as soon as it’s available for their age, and this was already my plan, but I’ll be especially relieved when they can be vaccinated. 

2.I support vaccine mandates. If people want to participate and benefit from society there’s a duty to do one’s part. 

1. That's respectable

2. That's a broad statement. I would caution against such perspective.  

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56 minutes ago, jive turkey said:
8 hours ago, HiddencatBSN said:

1.We’ve started to see some pretty sick kids lately. My kids are getting vaccinated as soon as it’s available for their age, and this was already my plan, but I’ll be especially relieved when they can be vaccinated. 

2.I support vaccine mandates. If people want to participate and benefit from society there’s a duty to do one’s part. 

jive turkey said:

1. That's respectable

2. That's a broad statement. I would caution against such perspective.  

Why in the world should a health professional be cautious about supporting vaccination mandates to protect public health? 

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4 hours ago, jive turkey said:

 

2. That's a broad statement. I would caution against such perspective.  

I don’t take advice from antivaxxers. Vaccines are a part of the social contract, especially during a pandemic. And COVID is having a massive burden on society beyond the people directly affected. 

3 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

Why in the world should a health professional be cautious about supporting vaccination mandates to protect public health? 

We shouldn’t be. This is sealioning, slipperyslope whataboutism nonsense.

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