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Well, I guess I'm in deep doo-doo now.........A couple of days ago, I was supervising a student nurse while she was removing a Hemovac from a pt. who'd had a total knee replacement, and the tubing broke off near the insertion site. I called the surgeon, who told me to take the dressing down as far as possible and see if I could pull the rest of the tubing out, and to call him if I couldn't.

Mind you, I was in the middle of caring for 5 patients without an aide (3-7P shift), had a fresh post-op, a pt. whom I'd just admitted and had to prep for a colonoscopy, and a 45 YO total-hip pt. with borderline personality disorder who was on the light every two minutes (literally). However, I did as the MD had instructed, but couldn't find ANY tubing......not even a fragment.....at the insertion site, or under the skin. So I redressed the incision, and passed the word on to the night nurse at shift change. I was simply too busy to do anything else---no dinner break, no time to chart, no time to even go to the bathroom. Then I went to another floor for the last few hours of my shift, and never thought about it again until my nurse manager confronted me last night.

To make a long story short, there WAS some retained tubing deep inside the knee, and the pt. had to go back to surgery to have it removed. The surgeon was pissed because I hadn't called him back, and of course my manager was upset because I hadn't written an incident report (I've since corrected that oversight) and the pt. did have to have a second operation.

Of course, I feel like hell because I'm at least partly to blame for this mess, and I'm sure of a write-up at bare minimum; but I'm also angry because of the crappy situation I was in, and the expectation that we nurses must be perfection itself, no matter what we're called upon to deal with. The day shift filled out an "unsafe staffing" form the next day, and the manager told them they were being "unprofessional". Now, staffing is better nowadays than it used to be when I worked there before, but there are times when you can have 15 staff members on the floor and it's not enough, and we certainly didn't have that many on Wednesday.

I'm not the kind of person to make excuses when I foul up, but under the circumstances I'm not sure what else I could have done. I KNOW I should've called the doctor back, even though he said to call only if I couldn't pull the retained tubing out (I'd never seen this happen before, and I presumed the fragment had fallen out and was somewhere in the bed linens). But I'm only human......too bad for my patient.

At this point, I can only hope that a write-up will be the worst thing that happens, and that the patient doesn't decide to sue or that I don't lose my job. What a mess.........never thought I'd find myself in such a position, normally I'm very careful and conscientious, but this was not a normal day.

Thank you for reading this lengthy vent. I feel a teeny bit better now. Think I'll go crawl inside a bottle of Diet Coke and drown my sorrows there.

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.

Well, I learned my fate this morning: I did get written up, and I have a conference with my manager next week to discuss the incident in detail. The good news is, she plans to turn this into a learning experience by having me teach an inservice on where the drains are located in the body and how to remove them correctly. (Not to mention what sort of follow-up is required when something goes wrong!!)

She said the write-up will go in my file, but no disciplinary action will be taken otherwise.....no suspension, or worse, thank God. She acknowledged that I was in an impossible situation that day, which also helped ease the sting somewhat (I've never been written up before, and I hate the idea of having a blemish on my record.) So I feel kinda like I lost the battle, but won the war....... and what I'll do is use it as a learning tool, take my lumps, and go on with my life. I hope my poor student will be able to do so as well.

sounds like you have a pretty cool NM, and its a great idea to have you teach an inservice this will not only be of service to you but to the other nurses as well. Nice "critical thinking" skills by your manager to turn this situation into a more positive one.

Specializes in Psych.

I am sorry that this happened to you. It really sucks. In my opinion, the surgeon should have been at the bedside after you notified him the first time as this is obviously a deviation from the expected outcome. Why we have to babysit physicians is beyond me. I totally understand what you were saying. Especially about the patient who was demanding and obnoxious. They can really get me in a twirl -- especially when the whole family joins in on the games. Sometimes on days like this, I just have to step back and prioritize. And as hard as it can be to ignore obnoxious patients, their safety is not at risk, but they can jeopradize the safety of other patients if allowed free reign. I'd rather get called on the carpet for being "cold and uncaring" than have my clinical judgement questioned.

Specializes in Everything except surgery.

Whew! Thank Godness no punishment for this at least! I understand your feelings about having this in your record, but just as it got there, they can pull it at anytime.

It seems like your NM is a fair person, and it's not to have at least some validation of the situation you were in. Good to hear! I know you're glad that is for the most part behind you:)

Wow...Although you are being written up, I am glad it wasn't any worse...

Bless your heart and hang in there!:)

Yes, where was the student's instructor, though it probably would have fallen back on you anyway to call the doctor, and yes why didn't the doctor come in when you first called him and check on it himself.

I'm glad that's all for you, and remember, when you leave that facility and go somewhere else, that write-up is going to stay right there and no one at your new place is going to know anything about it. Some of these things are probably not as important as we think they are, and even at your current place it will probably soon be forgotten, new people and new things for others to think about.

Good luck.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.

We have BSN students on our floor, under the supervision of the nurse. There were two of them today. The instructor is not based on the floor with them. Their instructor has students all over the hospital.

I recall being a student, and yes they have students all over the hospital, and when they needed to observe something they were called and came and observed.

In Ontario, (don't know about the rest of Canada or the States), students in their final year of study are responsible for their own conduct. We are bound by the same scope of practice as the registered nurses - we are able to perform procedures unsupervised providing we are operating within our scope of practice, have done the procedure multiple times successfully, and are COMFORTABLE doing so unsupervised. If we feel at all uncomfortable or have not done the same procedure multiple times, we are to either have the assigned registered nurse observe or the instructor - any RN will do. And by the way, I have removed three hemovacs in the last month (two TKA's and one appy) with no difficulties. The first two were under the observation of the instructor, the third was on my own. What I would like to ask is, why did the tubing break? It is not supposed to. It is designed to withstand the hostile atmosphere within the body (it is a foreign body and is attacked) and remain intact when being removed.

mjl: (((((HUGS)))))

Glad your manager was more understanding than some (well, one) who posted here. I certainly did not get the impression that you were minimizing the incident.

I'll bet that sucker would have broken off if the surgeon himself had pulled it.

Did the student survive?

Specializes in Home Health.

Listen Fab, I am just being honest and I call em as I see em. Yes, I agree her shift was horrible, staffing sucked, etc...

I am asking you to be 100% honest w yourself. If this pt was your family member, would you be so understanding?? I can honestly say I wouldn't. I'm not saying I would sue her, or rip her a new one, if no harm was ultimately done, but I would not be as understanding as everyone else who posted seems to be. I'm human, what can I say?

I am not a mean-spirited person, no matter what you may think of me, and frankly I don't care what your opinion of me is, I know I sleep at night w a clear conscience. And that is not a dig at mljrn, if she feels she did the best she could in that situation, then she should be able to go to sleep w a clear conscience too. No problem.

I do think her nurse manager handled the entire thing in an ultra-cool way, and it sounds like anyone working for her is lucky to be there.

Besides, how do you think I can come to the conclusion that I did? You think I've never made a mistake? That's how I know I would do it differently, or at least delegate/turf it to someone who could.

You called it as you saw it, and so did I.

I didn't say you were mean-spirited, either (in fact, I didn't even mention your name). I said that I was glad her nurse manager was more understanding (I also said that I didn't see mjl as feeling she had not responsibility in the situation).

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