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Well, I guess I'm in deep doo-doo now.........A couple of days ago, I was supervising a student nurse while she was removing a Hemovac from a pt. who'd had a total knee replacement, and the tubing broke off near the insertion site. I called the surgeon, who told me to take the dressing down as far as possible and see if I could pull the rest of the tubing out, and to call him if I couldn't.

Mind you, I was in the middle of caring for 5 patients without an aide (3-7P shift), had a fresh post-op, a pt. whom I'd just admitted and had to prep for a colonoscopy, and a 45 YO total-hip pt. with borderline personality disorder who was on the light every two minutes (literally). However, I did as the MD had instructed, but couldn't find ANY tubing......not even a fragment.....at the insertion site, or under the skin. So I redressed the incision, and passed the word on to the night nurse at shift change. I was simply too busy to do anything else---no dinner break, no time to chart, no time to even go to the bathroom. Then I went to another floor for the last few hours of my shift, and never thought about it again until my nurse manager confronted me last night.

To make a long story short, there WAS some retained tubing deep inside the knee, and the pt. had to go back to surgery to have it removed. The surgeon was pissed because I hadn't called him back, and of course my manager was upset because I hadn't written an incident report (I've since corrected that oversight) and the pt. did have to have a second operation.

Of course, I feel like hell because I'm at least partly to blame for this mess, and I'm sure of a write-up at bare minimum; but I'm also angry because of the crappy situation I was in, and the expectation that we nurses must be perfection itself, no matter what we're called upon to deal with. The day shift filled out an "unsafe staffing" form the next day, and the manager told them they were being "unprofessional". Now, staffing is better nowadays than it used to be when I worked there before, but there are times when you can have 15 staff members on the floor and it's not enough, and we certainly didn't have that many on Wednesday.

I'm not the kind of person to make excuses when I foul up, but under the circumstances I'm not sure what else I could have done. I KNOW I should've called the doctor back, even though he said to call only if I couldn't pull the retained tubing out (I'd never seen this happen before, and I presumed the fragment had fallen out and was somewhere in the bed linens). But I'm only human......too bad for my patient.

At this point, I can only hope that a write-up will be the worst thing that happens, and that the patient doesn't decide to sue or that I don't lose my job. What a mess.........never thought I'd find myself in such a position, normally I'm very careful and conscientious, but this was not a normal day.

Thank you for reading this lengthy vent. I feel a teeny bit better now. Think I'll go crawl inside a bottle of Diet Coke and drown my sorrows there.

Sorry this happened to you Hon. I can relate. I was just fired from a job I loved because a family member didn't like me, and this family member pretty much runs the place. So I feel for you my friend. Hang on. You're a great nurse who got caught in the middle if a vice. It'll work out somehow. Love ya, Kiddo.

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
Originally posted by lsyorke

"student nurse while she was removing a Hemovac from a pt"

Ok call me old school, but I've never removed a hemovac!!! In every hospital I've worked this is a physicians responsibility. Is it standard practice for nurses to remove hemovacs???????

I know, only physicians are to remove drainage devices of any sort (aside from Foleys) at our facility, because of the risk of a tube breaking.

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.

We've been removing Hemovacs for years, and this is the first time any of us have seen the tubing snap off like that. The poor student nurse who had the misfortune to do this was absolutely devastated.......I heard that she had left the building in tears yesterday after our nurse manager had spoken with her instructor, and I fear she may not be back. I'd tried to reassure her that EVERYONE makes mistakes, but she's one of those who takes everything to heart, and she was inconsolable. Me, I'm a tough old bird and I'll get over it, although I've certainly learned from the experience and will never make the same mistake again; but I do feel bad for the girl, because she'd probably make a wonderful nurse, if she can scrape together enough courage to return and finish her clinicals.

Thanks to everyone who's posted so far. It does seem like we nurses are up against terrible odds, but it's not going to change anytime soon........all we can do is keep on trying, and praying we don't fail too often, or too badly.

I haven't taken them out personally but at the hospital I work at the nurses take out hemovacs and J.P. drains, maybe other things too for all I know.

mjlrn97, hope everything turns out well for you. God bless.

mjlrn

This sounds like an awful shift. If it makes you feel any better I have also gone to remove a drain from a TKR that snapped at the insertion site - the family were present, the pt. wished them to stay - they were very emotive and upset with me. I went to contact the Dr who had gone on holidays, and his covering doctor was not answering his page! Anyway, the drain was wrapped around the prosthesis and the pt. would have had to return to theatre no matter who attempted to remove the drain. It happens, I am sorry it happened to you and your student in what sounds like a truly horrendous day. jax

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
Originally posted by lsyorke

"student nurse while she was removing a Hemovac from a pt"

Ok call me old school, but I've never removed a hemovac!!! In every hospital I've worked this is a physicians responsibility. Is it standard practice for nurses to remove hemovacs???????

It's very common for nurses here to remove hemovacs. It's no harder or complicated than removing a foley. It just slides out.

Of course as luck would have it, something happened. But this is not because it's a complicated procedure that requires a physician's hand.

Specializes in Home Health.

I do feel bad that you had a bad shift mjl, really I do, but I do not feel your can so easily dismiss that fact that you didn't report this to the surgeon the same evening.

If this were your loved one, would be be so forgiving of the nurse who didn't report that a tubing was still in place? I am being honest when I say I would be very upset w you had I found out you did not follow through with the surgeon.

The reality is, even if you had called the surgeon, he may still have decided to wait until the am to take the rest of the tubing out. But, suppose, he had a trauma surgery come in and assumed you got the tubing out b/c you didn't call back, and it wasn't visible to the naked eye, and the next shift forgot to report it? Where does the accountability stop?? When the pt returns septic?

I for one do not accept your busy evening as rationale for not reporting the event to the surgeon. If you couldn't call, you should have paged the supervisor and had her call.

Being a conscientious nurse requires the follow-through for pt safety. I do think you feel remorse, and that you will never leave something like this unreported again no matter how busy you are, so this is not to beat you up, I already know you feel badly about it. I just had to be honest with my take on it.

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My eyes are burning. :eek: I'm sorry this happened to you. Sometimes they suture those hemovacs in very tight. (I used to work in the OR, and I've seen how they secure them sometimes!) So, it is NOT totally your fault! Be good to you. :kiss
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That stinks! That kind of stuff always happens to me the ONE DAY that I have to leave work ON TIME so I can pick up my daughter or something important. We are always EXPECTED to stay as late as it takes to finish things up and it's unfair. The next shift should have taken the ball and finished the task. I also feel sorry for the student...nursing is so evil sometimes. Sheesh! I hope she comes back and kicks a**!!!! Chin up, we all make mistakes and those of us who say we don't...are liars and that's worse!!

Specializes in Med-surg; OB/Well baby; pulmonology; RTS.

((((mjlrn))))...sorry your shift was bad....:kiss

But I have a question...where was this student's instructor? At my facility, we do allow students to do procedures, but their instructor is to be present-he/she is working under their instructor's license....

Specializes in Case Management, Home Health, UM.
Originally posted by mjlrn97

The day shift filled out an "unsafe staffing" form the next day, and the manager told them they were being "unprofessional".

Better to be "unprofessional" than "unsafe"!

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