LIAR: ADN RN prompted to lie about holding a BSN... is it passable?

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Honestly, I see no difference between an ADN or ASN and a BSN. I do not think going for my Bachelors will improve my nursing judgment nor will It add to my science or medical knowledge. I think a bachelor degree in nursing can improve managerial skills and give me theories that are absolutely ridiculous.

Today, I walked into a home care agency for employment. The recruiter told me she could not hire me because I did not hold a bachelor degree and it would be illegal for me to work in home care without one. I do not know what that was about, but I work in home care and that is not true.

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My #1 BURNING question to you is what do you think about the whole Associate vs Bachelor Degree in Nursing controversy? In actual clinical/ theoretical practice, is one better than the other?

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Today's incident prompted me to think: what if I simply lied about having a bachelor's degree? I mean they don't really check do they?

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Anyway, just wanted to say the job market in NYC isn't too bad. many agencies and small home care companies are willing to take new grads with no experience. although the agencies like to give undesirable positions psych and school nurses, it's still an opportunity.

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You are not seriously asking this question? At least in my state when they check to see if you are indeed an RN, you have access to info like where you got degree BSN ASN or if you have a diploma. So why lie just go back and get your BSN because the lie will catch up to you then you risk loosing that which you worked hard to achieve over a stupid lie.

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Specializes in Critical Care.

There are hundreds of topics open just like this one. A BSN nurse went to school for twice a long as an ADN nurse-- you can't act like it's all for nothing. I've seen fantastic ADNs and horrible BSNs, but to write off that extra education is disrespectful.

Also, with regards to lying, the truth always comes out in the end, and it will end with you likely getting fired from your job.

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Specializes in ACNP-BC, Adult Critical Care, Cardiology.

Today's incident prompted me to think: what if I simply lied about having a bachelor's degree? I mean they don't really check do they?

Big mistake that can backfire in the future! Lying about your educational credentials is a big no-no however, you slice and dice it.

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Yes, "they" do check. If potential employers discover you lied about your education, your application will go in the "round file."

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Specializes in OR, Nursing Professional Development.
Yes, "they" do check. If potential employers discover you lied about your education, your application will go in the "round file."

Not to mention that people talk off the record. Lying about a degree is not something someone wants to be known for, and word will likely get around to other HR departments. If the job market requires a BSN, either get the BSN or move.

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I had to give my employer a copy of my BSN degree for my personnel file. This was just last month at a new job, so they will possibly verify it!

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Specializes in retired LTC.

kitkats - your screen name identifies you as having a BSN. Yet your thread clearly indicates that you do NOT have the degree. Uh, which is it?

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Specializes in NICU, telemetry.

I can't believe you actually would even question lying about something like your degree. You really think they wouldn't check? If they wouldn't, it's not a place I would want to be working for, anyway. Imagine what else they would slack in and how you'd probably be treated as an employee.

To answer your first question, I am a nurse who first obtained an ADN and went back to finish my BSN. Mostly because I hope to go on to NP school. As a bedside nurse ONLY, no, I do not feel like finishing out my BSN helps me more than when I was only ADN-prepared. However, every agency has their own rules about requirements for hiring, and it's not uncommon for places to believe in "BSN only". However, despite feeling that way, even in my pre-BSN days, I could accept that not everyone was willing to hire me, without throwing a temper tantrum about it. That home health agency likely won't be the last place you come across that has that preference.

Consider yourself better for not working for someone who lied to you up front, and look for another job...without lying yourself.

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Specializes in Pain, critical care, administration, med.

I am having a hard time understanding your thinking. First you don't see any difference between the different RN degrees...but yet you would consider lying about having a BSN. I would strongly suggest doing a literature search on the topic of BSNs. Then do a search of why it's not a good idea about lying about your educational background or anything else about yourself.

If you are even considering lying what else are you willing to lie about...you don't sound like a responsible professional.

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kitkats - your screen name identifies you as having a BSN. Yet your thread clearly indicates that you do NOT have the degree. Uh, which is it?

I'm currently in an RN-BSN program. Under EDUCATION: I have "RN-BSN" placed there. RN-BSN should indicate that I am a RN continuing my education.

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Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.

The nurse who claims to have earned a BSN degree when (s)he does not one is committing fraud, which is punishable by licensure suspension or revocation by one's state board of nursing. It is serious business if you get caught lying about your educational credentials.

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