Things seem to be unfolding rather quickly. Former White House aides and advisors are scrambling to cover themselves as they receive subpoenas to appear and produce documents.
It’s rare when lawyers — as opposed to their clients — take the Fifth Amendment. But Jeffrey Clark, the former Justice Department lawyer who reportedly tried to help Donald Trump overturn the 2020 presidential election, is now claiming the privilege against self-incrimination to avoid testifying before the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. He has just been joined in that posture by one of Trump’s main outside legal advisers, John Eastman.
The lawsuit comes after the committee signaled it would pursue a criminal contempt referral against Meadows because of his refusal to sit for a deposition in the investigation into the Capitol riot. Meadows alleges that the subpoenas are "overly broad and unduly burdensome," while claiming that the committee "lacks lawful authority to seek and to obtain" the information requested.
And apparently Mark Meadows had a power point outlining how to overturn election results.
The 38-page presentation, entitled "Election Fraud, Foreign Interference & Options for 6 Jan," is dated one day before the Capitol riot. It's believed to have been submitted by Meadows after he was subpoenaed by the panel in connection with the insurrection.
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6 hours ago, bunnyandthorton said:
The last time I checked, a "narcissist" doesn't put Americans first like Trump did, unlike Biden who has accomplished nothing and has abused his power to the nth degree in his 50 years in politics.
Yes or no: is our way of life better now than it was late 2019?
Americans are better off now by orders of magnitude. Best of all, Biden's election ensured that we're rid of a guy who could have done something far more dangerous owing to the fact that he is intellectually, morally and temperamentally unfit for the job.
We managed to dodge a few bullets mostly because he was babysat by the more patriotic members of his administration, who dared to put the country first even while being on the business end of one of his frequent profane and childlike tantrums.
A hearing is a meeting or session of a Senate, House, joint, or special committee of Congress, usually open to the public, to obtain information and opinions on proposed legislation, conduct an investigation, or evaluate/oversee the activities of a government department or the implementation of a Federal law. In addition, hearings may also be purely exploratory in nature, providing testimony and data about topics of current interest. 1 A report is produced with recomendations for changes to legislation or need for new laws.
While a trials a process where the facts of a case are presented to a jury, and they decide if the defendant is guilty or not guilty of the charge offered. During trial, the prosecutor uses witnesses and evidence to prove to the jury that the defendant committed the crime(s). The defendant, represented by an attorney, also tells his side of the story using witnesses and evidence. In a trial, the judge — the impartial person in charge of the trial — decides what evidence can be shown to the jury. 2
Most congressional hearings are published two months to two years after they are held. Hearings are available on govinfo as they become available during each session of Congress. This committees report WILL be available and include 1,000+ pages info for all to review online. Much of committees info will be provided to the Dept. of Justice (DOJ) per their request as Chairman Bennie Thompson stated.
I can only imagine ACCESS computer database used to record info received from 1000 interviews now and thousands of documents submitted by those involved. Need a librarian to archive these!
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47 minutes ago, Justlookingfornow said:
Sure. Perhaps Cheney can invite them. There is no excuse to leave out all the content. As you said,it's readily available on line so why show it anyway? Right, because if you edit some out, it's easier to push the narrative. To hear what they want you to but not the whole story.
I'm not treating it as a criminal process because a criminal process the person will be given a defense. It's a covienient way to accused someone with out them having any defense. In fact it might be by design. Knowing that it will not be challenged but is still delivered. It's rather genius actually.
Cheney can invite who? The DOJ? That would be inappropriate.
You are allowed to disagree with the process of sharing the findings of their months long investigation but the process is fine, transparent even.
You seem shocked that the person who invited the mob to DC and then inflamed them with lies and sent them to the capitol building to STOP THE STEAL might get accused of attempting to overturn the election results. What do you mean that this information and evidence won't be challenged? You're challenging it right now. Trump challenged it.
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Thursday's January 6th Committee hearing a ratings hit: 20 million+ persons watched the proceedings--- more than the Oscars, some Sunday Night Football games, or the Macy's Thanksgiving parade.
MSNBC (4.2 million) had more viewers than Fox News (3.06 million) during 8-10PM time slot. Fox News repeatedly talks about "cancel culture" --something I feel they engaged in by not broadcasting proceedings AND not having ANY commercials during those 2 hours (to minimize viewers leaving) along with 8PM show providing disinformation.
Trump did not request any National Guard troops for Pelosi to then decline.
The National Guard isn't under the control of Congress, it's under the direction of each state and for the District of Columbia it's the executive branch.
I'm not clear on your general point though, you seem to be saying this was simply a protest, but at the same time Pelosi is at fault for not recognizing that this was clearly going to be an attempted coup and therefore the military should have been out in force.
What is the supposed basis that Babbit was "murdered"?
Yep, that's why Trump gave the go-ahead for the National Guard troops because there was a known threat of violence per intel investigation, which was relayed to capitol police, Pelosi, and Mayor Bowser as per protocol. None of them accepted his offer of National Guard troops, and he couldn't just place them there without their consent lest he would have violated many laws. It's like they wanted something to happen so they could blame him for "inciting a riot", and here we are.
Cheney can invite who? The DOJ? That would be inappropriate.
You are allowed to disagree with the process of sharing the findings of their months long investigation but the process is fine, transparent even.
You seem shocked that the person who invited the mob to DC and then inflamed them with lies and sent them to the capitol building to STOP THE STEAL might get accused of attempting to overturn the election results. What do you mean that this information and evidence won't be challenged? You're challenging it right now. Trump challenged it.
Trump was also impeached for this very reason and he walked away a free man. Maybe your side is just upset that you have no issues to run on besides record inflation, record crime, and putting people out of work because they won't take a vaccine?
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This hearing is as important as prior American events Senator McCarthy's Witch Hunt in the 1950's, 1973 Watergate hearings, and 2001's 9/11 event to the U.S. safety and democracy --all which were at stake.
This timeline is intended to memorialize the planning and execution efforts of the Department of Defense to address the Violent Attack at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.
The timeline is as follows: Thursday, December 31, 2020 (New Year’s Eve)
• Mayor Muriel Bowser and Dr. Christopher Rodriguez, D.C. Director of Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency, deliver a written request for D.C. National Guard (DCNG) support to D.C. Metro Police Department (MPD) and Fire and Emergency Service. Saturday, January 2, 2021
• The Acting Secretary of Defense (A/SD) confers with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (CJCS) and the Secretary of the Army (SECARMY) on the Mayor’s written request. Sunday, January 3, 2021
• DoD confirms with U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) that there is no request for DoD support (!!!!) ...
One intriguing subplot to the upcoming Jan. 6 select committee hearings is this question — are the former Trump Justice Department officials heroes or villains?
Correct answer: neither.
When the series of hearings begin on Jun. 9, the Committee is reportedly likely to call as witnesses former acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, his deputy, Richard Donoghue, and, maybe, even former Attorney General William Barr. All three of these witnesses have already provided damaging statements against Trump – two of them under oath. But all three men also make imperfect witnesses.
The public and the media should be prepared for how such witnesses figure into investigations of this kind and character, both for this hearing and any subsequent criminal prosecutions.
As every prosecutor knows, you take your witnesses as you find them. Most of them come with some baggage. Being close enough to a wrongdoer to be aware of his misconduct often means that the witnesses have engaged in some wrongdoing themselves. And the men who found themselves in leadership roles at DOJ in the waning days of the Trump administration appear to be no exception....
The January 6th Select Committee’s first hearing was compelling. As with Watergate and other historic congressional proceedings, Thursday night will be long remembered and shows every sign of kicking off a month of important revelations about how President Donald Trump and his allies tried to subvert American democracy. Among the most striking moments were Vice Chair Liz Cheney’s dissection of the potential criminal case against Donald Trump. While she has no power to prosecute him, she sketched a compelling case for federal or state criminal charges against Trump in her presentation of the evidence.
The questions of criminality raised by Cheney, and also by Chair Bennie Thompson, are central to these hearings and even more so to ultimate accountability. After all, on their own, the committee has no power to impose actual consequences for Trump’s misconduct they have substantiated through over 1,000 interviews, more than 140,000 pages of documents and much more evidence. Only federal or state prosecutors can do that.
Accordingly, the authors are publishing in Just Security the enclosed evidence trackers of three federal and state crimes potentially committed by the former president. We will update these trackers after each hearing to show the accumulation of new evidence as to each of these criminal offenses. These inaugural charts are a baseline established by compiling key details that were already in the public record and supplemented by what we learn during the first hearing. We believe readers can judge for themselves the evidence and strength of the case through these detailed findings...
This hearing is as important as prior American events Senator Mccarthy's Witch Hunt In The 1950's, 1973 Watergate hearings, and 2001's 9/11 event to the U.S. safety and democracy --all which were at stake.
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6 hours ago, bunnyandthorton said:
Trump was also impeached for this very reason and he walked away a free man. Maybe your side is just upset that you have no issues to run on besides record inflation, record crime, and putting people out of work because they won't take a vaccine?
Or..."my side" is the american side, exposing an attempt by the previous president to retain lost power by breaking our constitution. Aren't you on that side too?
5 hours ago, bunnyandthorton said:
because obviously if I said 2020 people would blame him for COVID--you know, a worldwide pandemic.
But Trump should get credit for lying about the pandemic and politicizing the mitigation.
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Americans are better off now by orders of magnitude. Best of all, Biden's election ensured that we're rid of a guy who could have done something far more dangerous owing to the fact that he is intellectually, morally and temperamentally unfit for the job.
We managed to dodge a few bullets mostly because he was babysat by the more patriotic members of his administration, who dared to put the country first even while being on the business end of one of his frequent profane and childlike tantrums.