I've Been Employed at 7 Facilities as a New Grad RN

Snatchedwig, BSN, CNA, LPN, RN · Aug 15, 2019

1 hour ago, no.intervention.required said:
Where is OP?
Suspect that op is looking for a job #8 at this time.

Lol you know those applications take forever to fill out

HiddencatBSN, BSN · Aug 15, 2019

10 hours ago, Snatchedwig said:
Lol you know those applications take forever to fill out

RIGHT??! OP needs to channel that ability to slog through tedious job applications to sticking things out at work.

Guest957596 · Aug 15, 2019

Maybe the next job will be in Risk Management as a Patient Advocate!

TriciaJ, RN · Aug 15, 2019

At least so far the OP has been able to land jobs. I'm reminded of a certain person who had 30+ rejections from the same hospital, after failing her new grad orientation. She'd come on here and say "Well, I guess I'm not going to be the peds transplant coordinator!"

Horseshoe, BSN, RN · Aug 15, 2019

34 minutes ago, TriciaJ said:
At least so far the OP has been able to land jobs. I'm reminded of a certain person who had 30+ rejections from the same hospital, after failing her new grad orientation. She'd come on here and say "Well, I guess I'm not going to be the peds transplant coordinator!"

WOW ?

Swellz · Aug 15, 2019

2 hours ago, TriciaJ said:
At least so far the OP has been able to land jobs."

That does say something of the OP's interviewing skills.

AnnieNP, MSN, NP · Aug 15, 2019

I'm thinking Troll.

Orca, ADN, ASN, RN · Aug 16, 2019

On ‎8‎/‎13‎/‎2019 at 7:44 PM, tonyl1234 said:
But there's ALWAYS another side to the story.
If I list my jobs over the last 5 years, and the timing, you're going to see me as irresponsible. If we talked about what happened at those jobs, you're going to wonder how I stayed as long as I did without quitting.

Which would be your account of it, not your employer's.

I still maintain that if a person frequently changes jobs, the jobs are probably not the primary issue. Sometimes you have to look at the common denominator. If we hire someone with a history of leaving other jobs after a short time, nine times out of ten that is what happens to us. Some people simply find fault with any job, and seem to come in the door looking for a reason to leave.

TitaniumPlates · Aug 17, 2019

On 8/14/2019 at 3:57 AM, Horseshoe said:
Not to the hiring managers who are looking at an application that reveals 7 different jobs in less than 9 months.

Gonna wade in--not to denegrate and horsewhip OP---because I really couldn't give a rat's rump how many jobs this poster had--I control me and OP controls themselves. If they end up at a facility with me--chances are good, historically--they won't last more than a few weeks anyway.

I'm addressing this assertion that "background checks" mean anything. A background check can get an employer a few things--a credit check, a Work Number report, a nursing (and other licensure if you admit to it) check thru nursys, and criminal databases (depending on who the facility is using).

This idea that if I don't put a 3 week stint at the LTC on my resume that a future employer will find out? Wrong. Many expensive things have to happen before you, my future employer, can find out everything about my employment history.

My credit reports ( all 3) state that I work for a hospital that I left in 1997and am currently employed in my former profession. I have zero intention of correcting this.

My Work Number report has 3 employers---all as a nurse and nothing from my former career of 18 years. I have one contract company that reported to Equifax and none of the other travel companies did this. I am employed through them--not the hospitals. In other words, I look like I've held exactly 3 jobs and have been a nurse since last year, according to Equifax. I have no intention of correcting this.

My criminal database search will enlighten you only to any federal charges as a whole---and state charges if I admit to which states I've resided in. I have a compact license--so I can work in 26 states freely. I don't change my driver's license every single time I take a contract. If I choose to "lose" a contract that didn't turn out well---there is no one the wiser. Especially if it was a short week long thing where I walked in, saw the s#itshow and walked out. I've done that, and so have many other travelers. No one is the wiser and there is NO WAY anyone can find that information.

If you think Social Security will cough up that information on someone? Wrong again. The only person that can get a SS report is the person to whom it pertains.

Try it---managers---seriously....go and do a background check on yourselves through the main (cheapest) resources that most employers use and you will be surprised.

I had Sterling do a check on me about a year ago---it was laughable. I didn't even bother correcting anything because what's the point? More information that they can sell or use in some way I don't approve?

I think OP is not telling the truth about 7 jobs in less than a year. Orientations and interviews and such---nah. This was someone most likely testing to see what the reaction is to someone who does job hop and is wondering how to erase this or what their consequences will be if they're honest about the 3 jobs in a year they actually had.

The sad thing is---unless you've done something where the BONs have you in their crosshairs or you're on some state/federal database for criminal activity---employers cannot and do not spend the time, money or effort to investigate every single employee's every iota of information.

Since becoming a nurse, when applying for jobs, I have kept all of my former job history prior to nursing off of my resume. ALL OF IT. 18 years of it. I was certified and licensed in 4 states for my former profession.

When I resigned my position as a nurse a few months ago--and returned to my former profession--I explained what I was doing and where I was going.

Want to know the reaction? Wow. Nobody knew you were a certified X and that you had 18 years in medicine before becoming a nurse. That was from HR and my nurse manager.

It's expensive and extremely prohibitive to do any type of state by state, facility by facility search to find out if someone worked there at some point. Unless the applicant provides this information, chances are almost certain that the employer never knows. HR and managers often will pick up the phone and call facilities (it's illegal) and try to glean from colleagues or the resume that was placed with a former employer---if there are discrepancies. This is a common tactic and it's been done to me several times.

Which I why I keep my employment history to myself and my references are always 100% trusted to give what information I approve and nothing else. I am a good nurse. My deleting a crap travel job at horrifyingly bad hospital isn't going to change that. You don't get to judge me because I walked out of a dangerous situation to save my license.

I was Wendy for kids' parties at the fast food restaurant for 2 years when I was putting myself through college the first time---I've never told anybody that I lived in Ohio and there is no reason anyone would ever think to look there---and how would they find this information unless I volunteered it? They can't and no one ever has known about it.

The Work Number is not even accurate--and they're the biggest source of information for employers now to find out background. Castlebranch does okay but it still was laughable what they came up with for me. I've had Sterling try it and I've had the government try it. I don't correct inaccuracies unless they are harmful. I pass background checks because I don't break the law, I color within the lines at work and I am a fairly boring person---hiring me doesn't give you the right to know every second of my life unless it would negatively impact your business.

If OP is being truthful--there was no huge financial investment in them for the length of time they were employed. The statistics that say it takes $50K to hire a new employee is including training/doubling up on manpower to do so, providing certification and education, etc. This OP didn't spend enough time on any job (according to OP) to cost anybody anything other than a pain in the orifice for having the OP there in the first place.

I'm NOT advocating for this OP and the crazy job hopping---what I AM saying is that this intense fear of deleting a month long mistake at a s#itshow facility is not going to be career ending. Travelers do this all of the time---delete jobs that were crap, run ins with managers or staff at crap facilities, bad travel companies---and there is no way to check every single travel company to see if a traveler worked for them.

HR has a time and budget constraint and little 'ol new grad isn't worth spending $20K to find out that she was Wendy at kids' parties 10 years ago.

Hoosier_RN, MSN · Aug 19, 2019

On 8/17/2019 at 6:04 PM, TitaniumPlates said:
Gonna wade in--not to denegrate and horsewhip OP---because I really couldn't give a rat's rump how many jobs this poster had--I control me and OP controls themselves. If they end up at a facility with me--chances are good, historically--they won't last more than a few weeks anyway.
I'm addressing this assertion that "background checks" mean anything. A background check can get an employer a few things--a credit check, a Work Number report, a nursing (and other licensure if you admit to it) check thru nursys, and criminal databases (depending on who the facility is using).
This idea that if I don't put a 3 week stint at the LTC on my resume that a future employer will find out? Wrong. Many expensive things have to happen before you, my future employer, can find out everything about my employment history.
My credit reports ( all 3) state that I work for a hospital that I left in 1997and am currently employed in my former profession. I have zero intention of correcting this.
My Work Number report has 3 employers---all as a nurse and nothing from my former career of 18 years. I have one contract company that reported to Equifax and none of the other travel companies did this. I am employed through them--not the hospitals. In other words, I look like I've held exactly 3 jobs and have been a nurse since last year, according to Equifax. I have no intention of correcting this.
My criminal database search will enlighten you only to any federal charges as a whole---and state charges if I admit to which states I've resided in. I have a compact license--so I can work in 26 states freely. I don't change my driver's license every single time I take a contract. If I choose to "lose" a contract that didn't turn out well---there is no one the wiser. Especially if it was a short week long thing where I walked in, saw the s#itshow and walked out. I've done that, and so have many other travelers. No one is the wiser and there is NO WAY anyone can find that information.
If you think Social Security will cough up that information on someone? Wrong again. The only person that can get a SS report is the person to whom it pertains.
Try it---managers---seriously....go and do a background check on yourselves through the main (cheapest) resources that most employers use and you will be surprised.
I had Sterling do a check on me about a year ago---it was laughable. I didn't even bother correcting anything because what's the point? More information that they can sell or use in some way I don't approve?
I think OP is not telling the truth about 7 jobs in less than a year. Orientations and interviews and such---nah. This was someone most likely testing to see what the reaction is to someone who does job hop and is wondering how to erase this or what their consequences will be if they're honest about the 3 jobs in a year they actually had.
The sad thing is---unless you've done something where the BONs have you in their crosshairs or you're on some state/federal database for criminal activity---employers cannot and do not spend the time, money or effort to investigate every single employee's every iota of information.
Since becoming a nurse, when applying for jobs, I have kept all of my former job history prior to nursing off of my resume. ALL OF IT. 18 years of it. I was certified and licensed in 4 states for my former profession.
When I resigned my position as a nurse a few months ago--and returned to my former profession--I explained what I was doing and where I was going.
Want to know the reaction? Wow. Nobody knew you were a certified X and that you had 18 years in medicine before becoming a nurse. That was from HR and my nurse manager.
It's expensive and extremely prohibitive to do any type of state by state, facility by facility search to find out if someone worked there at some point. Unless the applicant provides this information, chances are almost certain that the employer never knows. HR and managers often will pick up the phone and call facilities (it's illegal) and try to glean from colleagues or the resume that was placed with a former employer---if there are discrepancies. This is a common tactic and it's been done to me several times.
Which I why I keep my employment history to myself and my references are always 100% trusted to give what information I approve and nothing else. I am a good nurse. My deleting a crap travel job at horrifyingly bad hospital isn't going to change that. You don't get to judge me because I walked out of a dangerous situation to save my license.
I was Wendy for kids' parties at the fast food restaurant for 2 years when I was putting myself through college the first time---I've never told anybody that I lived in Ohio and there is no reason anyone would ever think to look there---and how would they find this information unless I volunteered it? They can't and no one ever has known about it.
The Work Number is not even accurate--and they're the biggest source of information for employers now to find out background. Castlebranch does okay but it still was laughable what they came up with for me. I've had Sterling try it and I've had the government try it. I don't correct inaccuracies unless they are harmful. I pass background checks because I don't break the law, I color within the lines at work and I am a fairly boring person---hiring me doesn't give you the right to know every second of my life unless it would negatively impact your business.
If OP is being truthful--there was no huge financial investment in them for the length of time they were employed. The statistics that say it takes $50K to hire a new employee is including training/doubling up on manpower to do so, providing certification and education, etc. This OP didn't spend enough time on any job (according to OP) to cost anybody anything other than a pain in the orifice for having the OP there in the first place.
I'm NOT advocating for this OP and the crazy job hopping---what I AM saying is that this intense fear of deleting a month long mistake at a s#itshow facility is not going to be career ending. Travelers do this all of the time---delete jobs that were crap, run ins with managers or staff at crap facilities, bad travel companies---and there is no way to check every single travel company to see if a traveler worked for them.
HR has a time and budget constraint and little 'ol new grad isn't worth spending $20K to find out that she was Wendy at kids' parties 10 years ago.

I agree with the background check info you posted. But nursing is a very small world and some things catch up. I also agree that this was most likely phony.

The popcorn I had while reading replies was tasty...

Naturally Brilliant, BSN, RN · Aug 20, 2019

Doesn't the on-boarding process for a new hire (e.g., drug screens, paperwork, badge photos, etc.) usually take a month or so, anyway? I mean, unless you're applying for a new job a week into a current job, I don't even see how you can logistically fit that many jobs into a year.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a Millennial, and I can't see a single person in my generation being in the same job for more than 10 years (you're kidding yourself if we'd be at the same nursing job for our entire career). And in fact, I left my ICU job (the one that I had as a new grad) after a year and five months because I felt targeted by my manager (getting called into her office monthly, and then justifying myself made me feel like the "writing was on the wall"). However! I do think there should be a process where you've aired your grievances to management several times before you leave a job. Think about a bad relationship - assuming it's not abusive/dangerous, wouldn't you want to bring up the issues you have before calling it off? I get the sentiment that people can find themselves in jobs that are simply a bad fit, but I would presume the mature thing to do would be to list all the concerns you have, pen-to-paper, and then check in with your supervisor and/or manager to go through them. If they get angry and defensive, then you know you're in a toxic culture, but if they're open to exploring what has been done and what could be done to patch things up, then you ought to give them a real chance, I say. But no doubt, one has to be mercenary in America because the employer will happily exploit you to the hilt unless you develop leverage (i.e., marketable skills) and can skillfully negotiate what you want with a reasonable exit strategy if they won't do hardball.

righteousjenn · Aug 20, 2019

Every good hospital is going to have you orient on days so you get a feel of what your unit actually does and how it runs. I would be weary not putting these jobs on your resume because they are reported and they do come up on a background check. My current facility called my last job at the container store before I was an official RN and I had only worked there for about a month. Also you will have gaps in your employment history that you will You to account for. The first year of nursing is tricky and you won’t even know how your feel about a current job until the dust settles.

Good luck on finding a job that fits you!