Incidental sexism

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So, I'm a feminist and all about equal rights. But still I find myself making all kinds of sexist assumptions in my office. Not about the kids, about the parents!

IE- I never call a dad first unless the student tells me that his/her dad is home that day. I try to catch myself and ask the kid "Who will be easiest to get a hold of?" But if I'm calling for paperwork or for something unrelated to a student visit, I always call the mom's phone first.

The one that really bugs me (because it hits close to home, I'll explain :) ) is that I have a fleeting moment of "What a great, involved father" pretty much every time that a dad calls in their kid sick or comes to pick them up. When a mom calls a kid in or picks them up, my thoughts NEVER turn to "Now that's a good mom!" Nope, it's just what we expect moms to do and give dad a gold star for doing.

Personally, this really chafes me. My ex husband is minimally involved in my children's lives. He sees them weekly (as it is stated in our divorce agreement) but he would NEVER pick up a sick kid from school. His exact words to me were "That's on your time, it's your problem" (Did I mention he has no job? So not only does he not have a job that he would have to leave to get them- and he is only 20 minutes from their school-- but he has no money to pay child support. Somehow he has beer money and cigarette money, but no Kid Money).

I could go on and on about his cavalier attitude towards parenting, but it would turn into a novel. What I CANNOT TAKE ANYMORE OF is hearing anyone say "Well, at least he still sees them" as though that makes up for being uninvolved in his children's lives??? It makes me sick for my kids that he does not show any concern for them or their activities. He flat out says to them "I don't care about that" when they want to tell him about things that interest them (pokemon, gymnastics, their friends).

/endrant

Specializes in School nurse.

Yea, I had a kid who needed 16 stitches to his face and mom blew up because dad picked the kiddo up on "her" day. She didn't return the initial phone call so yea, I called dad. I'm not going to let a little kid sit there like that because the parents can't play nice in an emergency.

My school district is Mayberry. Most moms are home and don't even work outside the home. The dads are pretty involved as well, actually.

My hubs is a great dad, so not so much worshipping at the Daddy Throne here.

Pssst, kidzcare, I don't like your ex.:blink: Boooooo!

I'm in Mayberry too and love it. 99.9% of the teachers are female though so many moms are working. I'd rather one parent or the other stayed home with them until Kindergarten but that's pie in the sky dreaming I guess.

I'm peeved at my own eldest son and his wife for putting my granddaughter in daycare at 4 months . . ...and then moving to Texas so I can't help out . . .. but that's another story.

I asked a line to my health emergency card that states "Best contact to call during school hours." 7/10 it is the mother, but I've seen father, grandparent, aunt listed. It saves me a lot of time and confusion, though it is still easy to assume the name will be the mother listed :).

But, like some folks above, a large number of students at my school do have their mother as the primary parent, with a father out of the picture. Or they live with grandparents or a foster parent.

We have a large % of kids like that here so maybe it isn't exactly Mayberry. Lots of foster kids as well.

(Hey, what does your "Welcome Back" letter look like this year? ;) May I steal it again? I've been waiting for them to hire the new nurse so I could make an announcement but time is ticking . . . . . and no nurse).

Specializes in School nursing.

(Hey, what does your "Welcome Back" letter look like this year? ;) May I steal it again? I've been waiting for them to hire the new nurse so I could make an announcement but time is ticking . . . . . and no nurse).

Working on it, but this year has hit with a bang! Changing EMRs and my old system will not export ANY DATA, so I have to enter all my health info manually into the new EMR :banghead:. My Welcome Back letter may turn into a Welcome to Winter at school letter...

Specializes in Med-Surg, Oncology, School Nursing, OB.

I also prefer to speak to the mom if possible. Only because the mom's seem to be more in tune to their child. I have to spell everything out with the dads more. Mom's will say ok I'll pick them up, give them Tylenol, and take them to the dr if not better, etc and so many dad's are like what can I give them, how much, when do they need to see the dr, when can they come back to school and by the time they pick them up they've forgotten half of that so I tell them again and write it down too. Nothing against the dad's but unless they routinely take care of the kids on their own they just don't automatically remember all that.

Our emergency cards have contacts listed as first number to call and who it is etc. We have several dads raising kids by themselves and grandparents too. Trying to get them on the phone to discuss an issue can be challenging and then I have to spell out exactly what I want them to do, etc. It's just more difficult.

Nothing against the dad's but unless they routinely take care of the kids on their own they just don't automatically remember all that.

Yes! This is exactly what I'm getting at! Our society has made it OK for dads to take a backseat to parenting, letting mom handle the lion's share of child-related duties.

Movies, sit-coms, commercials all feed into the "inept dad" stereo type with the withered and resigned, but slightly entertained mother picking up his slack. It really strikes a chord with me as my ex husband was (is) super hands off. I worked part time before we divorced and if it was a day that I was not gone for the evening at work, he would come home from work and insist that he needed relaxation, there's no way taking care of children could compare to him going to work, his dad never spent time with them, blah, blah, blah. Same story on weekends. He should be the one able to sleep in on a weekend when we had a 3 year old and newborn twins. I was just starting nursing school at the time and also working 2 part time jobs. Ug, it makes me livid to think that I even put up with it for a week, let alone 8 years.

Specializes in Pediatrics Retired.

Well, I'd like to say, since I'm a guy, I could give you a different perception to contemplate but I can't. Your above opinions have been formed based on reality so don't feel bad about calling a mom first. Percentage-wise, mom's are still the primary caregivers; even when a marriage is intact and a dad is present I, more times than not, get a response to my phone call - "OK, I'll contact their mom." Of course there are many exceptions and many responsible men/dads out there. But you can't fix the fact that our society is what it is. My heart goes out to all single parents doing ALL the parenting.

And, of course, I am one of the exceptions; the perfect husband, father, and role model for all!!! Darn, I just heard a clap of thunder!!

Working on it, but this year has hit with a bang! Changing EMRs and my old system will not export ANY DATA, so I have to enter all my health info manually into the new EMR :banghead:. My Welcome Back letter may turn into a Welcome to Winter at school letter...

We have a new system as well. And I'm doing the same thing.

:nono:

Specializes in Pediatric Critical Care.
Well, I'd like to say, since I'm a guy, I could give you a different perception to contemplate but I can't. Your above opinions have been formed based on reality so don't feel bad about calling a mom first. Percentage-wise, mom's are still the primary caregivers; even when a marriage is intact and a dad is present.

I think it was the movie "Up In The Air" where George Clooney's character said

"I'm like my mother - I stereotype. It's faster."

Well, I'd like to say, since I'm a guy, I could give you a different perception to contemplate but I can't. Your above opinions have been formed based on reality so don't feel bad about calling a mom first. Percentage-wise, mom's are still the primary caregivers; even when a marriage is intact and a dad is present I, more times than not, get a response to my phone call - "OK, I'll contact their mom." Of course there are many exceptions and many responsible men/dads out there. But you can't fix the fact that our society is what it is. My heart goes out to all single parents doing ALL the parenting.

And, of course, I am one of the exceptions; the perfect husband, father, and role model for all!!! Darn, I just heard a clap of thunder!!

I know there are MANY MANY MANY excellent fathers out there. I get mad at myself (for buying into the stupid stereotype) when I'm surprised by it.

For example, a couple days ago I stopped by a friend's house and her husband was just getting home from work and the first thing he did was start helping their daughter with her homework. I was flabbergasted and then reminded myself "Wait, this isn't extraordinary. I do this with 3 kids everyday and I'm no supermom" It would be a miracle if my ex helped the kids with their homework. When it's his weekend and I get them back Sunday evening, it's not uncommon that they have homework to do that he didn't not check or help them with- despite me telling him time and again that they are 11 and 7- they might not volunteer the information that they have homework! :no:

Off topic, but...Do you and I have the same husband?

Off topic, but...Do you and I have the same husband?

No. Yours is hobbled, remember?

Off topic, but...Do you and I have the same husband?

I suppose it's possible that you are his other ex wife... He was married and divorced again within 3 years of our divorce. I'd love to sit and have a talk with her :)

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