Im Pagan and a Hospice Nurse....

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I am new to hospice. I have been a nurse for three years and have previously worked in a fairly religously nuetral environment. I suppose I shouldve guessed that hospice would not be such an environment, but I think what has surprised me the most are my coworkers, who seem to be completely unaware that any religious trains of thought exist outside of christianity. I have no problem listening to them and am glad that they believe so whole heartedly in their views, I simply do not agree with them. But the other day I attended my first group meeting with our aide, volunteers, chaplain, sw, etc and they actually prayed before the meeting, assuming, everyone in the room shared the same beliefs as them! This, I found offensive. I am Pagan, Wiccan, more specifically, and I also value religious tolerance, but I am rapidly becoming aware of how much tongue swallowing I am about to be doing.Many of our patients are Christian as well, I expected this, and am ok with it. I am hoping I can find some advice from others who have already walked in my shoes. What is the best wat way to "handle" , if you will, co-workers and patients in a way that is respectful to them but also to....myself??

Specializes in LTC,Hospice/palliative care,acute care.

You could always be 5 minutes late to staff meetings....or...

While others are praying to their gods I join them and pray to my own,I don't have a problem with that. In a new setting I don't think I would call attention to this. Maybe sometime down the road and then I would follow other's suggestions regarding educating staff about other religions.

It is for this very reason why I am pursuing a higher degree and working toward establishing a non-Judeo-Christian hospice. I am not Christian or Catholic either, and while I have nothing against them, I do not believe what they do nor do I try and convert them (like some of my patients have tried to do with me). I just try to be supportive, but really, there is an untapped need for these other spiritual groups that can't continue being ignored.

Specializes in School Nursing.
It is for this very reason why I am pursuing a higher degree and working toward establishing a non-Judeo-Christian hospice. I am not Christian or Catholic either, and while I have nothing against them, I do not believe what they do nor do I try and convert them (like some of my patients have tried to do with me). I just try to be supportive, but really, there is an untapped need for these other spiritual groups that can't continue being ignored.

So you will only accept non-Judeo-Christian patients? I work for a faith based hospice, and we DO get patients that aren't Christians and their faith (or lack of faith, if that is the case) is ALWAYS respected. Our patients have the right to decline faith based services and some do. Chaplain services are part of the hospice philosophy. Do you plan on offering Christian as well as other faith chaplain services? I know some hospice companies have chaplains that are ordained in multiple faiths to support all patients.

No, it would not accept only non-Judeo-Christian patients. But its premise, mission, and values would be centered around different traditions. If a Christian, Catholic, or Jew is okay with that, then they would of course be more than welcome.

The only faith-based hospices that I've been able to find in the States are Christian. All I'm saying is that I would like to offer a faith-based hospice that is for other faiths.

Specializes in Mental Health, Gerontology, Palliative.

So is she. And this occurs during staff meetings, not during patient care

I dont have a trouble if I know an organization is christian/religious, I can then make a decision whether i can work within those parameters. To join a work place and then find out what this is apart of it would leave me feeling fairly not happy

This wouldnt happen in New Zealand. I worked for a mental health org with a solid basis in the local baptist church. I knew before I applied that prayer during staff meetings was a regular occurrence, I was able to make a choice whether I could deal with that as a pagan prior to applying

Religous tolerance, includes all religons.

If they are happy with it then why do you have to grumble and complain about it? They're taking care of dying people for crying out loud.

I worked with a Wiccan hospice nurse years ago and she was simply AWESOME> I live in the Bible Belt myself and love the predominantly Christian culture (originally from the North where religion among other things is simply not spoken of)> But variety is the spice of life so when I meet a patient who has a different belief system than me I EAT it up! I love it! My aforementioned coworker was also a lesbian which really threw some coworkers for a loop lol> But she truly was an awesome hospice nurse_ she never flaunted her differences but she didn"t try to hide them either :) Sorry for the typos> My keyboard is misbehaving :)

Specializes in Hospice and Palliative Nurse.

I have 15 years in hospice work and every hospice I have worked wtih has had prayer during IDT meeting. I happen to be a practicing Christian, that being said, over the years I have had the honor of being in homes of a wide range of religious and non religious patients. I am not offended in a Muslum home that takes out the prayer rug or the Jewish home that has beliefs different from my own, or the Hindu home...I am happy they have a spiritual base WHATEVER form it takes.

I learn alot by simply asking them to help me understand how they generally view end of life practices. I never try to change them or give them "my view". It is not about me. This time it is not my journey, someday it will be.

The remark that the non beliver may have a "horrible or bad death" has some validity from the point of view that generally speaking, a spiritual based person may transition easier than a non spiritual based person. That is not uncommon. So....the question becomes how can we assist the non spiritual person in their transition or passing without trying to do a bedside conversion?

I use an airport visualization....most people have an idea of how an airport works even if they have never flown. I ask them to envision themselves waiting in line (we all are, aren't we?)...carrying their baggage (life's baggage)....we talk about putting the baggage down (forgiveness)....we get to the ticket counter and we get to pick where we will go....how cool is that!....then we get on the plane and we get to pick whether we will fly it or let it be flown...you get the idea. It helps give a destination and plan, the spiritual folks have that in their faith, the non spiritual do not. This is a way to help them.

Now.....sister hospice nurse ( I mean that in a loving way, this is hard work)....if the IDT team prays, close your eyes and pray to YOUR spiritual support whoever that is. Mine is Jesus, yours can be whomever you choose. If you are non spiritual altogether, then consider using that moment to find your peaceful, happy place and prepare for the day.....Peace out.

"Everything I have learned in life is from those who have no life left"

Specializes in MDS, Home Health, Hospice, Director.

As a Christian RN, it is firmly my belief that God chooses us, not that we choose Him. With that in mind, my main focus is to ensure that all my patients... Christian or otherwise... leave this world as comfortable as possible... spiritually as well as physically. If they are meant to know about my faith, they will ask... if they are not, they will not ask and I will live my faith but not verbalize it to them. God will provide opportunities if He wants to.

Specializes in Hospice, Telemetry.

As an atheist, I was a bit concerned about going into hospice since I expected religious beliefs to be in the forefront. I figured most of my patients (and their families) would be hoping they were headed for heaven, and I would be drawn into that world. I have been pleasantly surprised that this is not the case. I have never been asked to join a prayer (we have a pastor for that), and I have never felt awkward when dealing with patients who are overtly religious. I have seen how deeply religious families can create a beautiful environment in a room while waiting for their loved one to pass, and how it can bring the peace. And I have had some very interesting conversations with my fellow nurses about my beliefs and how being a hospice nurse has actually strengthened my own conclusion that there is no God. But that is a whole other topic.

Hmmm...those who make remarks about horrible deaths surely aren't practicing their faith! It's better to attend to those who are caring and honorable than those who aren't--we can choose our path without choosing to be irritated by those whose path is a tad tangled...

Actually, I think those nurses are practicing their faith. Their manners may be undesirable, but their belief is biblically sound.

This is the reason I feel like Christian nurses should have not work in hospice or even nursing. Non-Christian patients will become their targets.

Specializes in Hospice, corrections, psychiatry, rehab, LTC.

I am Baha'i, something that few people understand. I was raised in the Methodist Church, but after a while I had issues with their beliefs, and the fact that church leadership seemed more concerned with what was in the collection plates than what they were providing (but that is another story). Many people have trouble understanding that my holidays are not in sync with theirs (in fact, Baha'is don't use the Gregorian calendar). Christmas is just another day to me, which most people have trouble understanding.

In situations in which Christian prayer is offered, I normally just bow in silent meditation.

One of the tenets of my faith is that work performed in the spirit of service is the highest form of worship. It seems to me that this would apply to most nursing tasks.

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