I'm Done

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by PMFB-RN PMFB-RN, RN Member Nurse

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response. Has 16 years experience.

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she244

she244

158 Posts

All of 2020 I worked with Covid positive patients and luckily did not get sick.  I had already put in my papers to retire so I retired in 2020.  I have read a lot of the comments and really can't say how I would feel if I was still working in a hospital filled with an over-run Covid patients.  I guess Hospitals need to have all unvaccinated people sign a DNR when they register to be admitted and that way hospital staff will not have to deal with those as stated STUPID PEOPLE who refuse to get vaccinated and risk the lives of everyone.  I myself do recommend everyone get the shot but do refrain from becoming cruel or demeaning to them if they refuse.  I do know some have medical histories or have experienced an adverse reaction to other vaccinations and refuse the Covid and Flu shot both.  

Good Luck to everyone still working in the hospital.  Wishing the Best to All.  

lifelive

lifelive, BSN

19 Posts

5 minutes ago, she244 said:

All of 2020 I worked with Covid positive patients and luckily did not get sick.  I had already put in my papers to retire so I retired in 2020.  I have read a lot of the comments and really can't say how I would feel if I was still working in a hospital filled with an over-run Covid patients.  I guess Hospitals need to have all unvaccinated people sign a DNR when they register to be admitted and that way hospital staff will not have to deal with those as stated STUPID PEOPLE who refuse to get vaccinated and risk the lives of everyone.  I myself do recommend everyone get the shot but do refrain from becoming cruel or demeaning to them if they refuse.  I do know some have medical histories or have experienced an adverse reaction to other vaccinations and refuse the Covid and Flu shot both.  

Good Luck to everyone still working in the hospital.  Wishing the Best to All.  

At first when I read your statement, I just saw the part about making all unvaccinated people sign DNR and I became upset. First, thing came to my mind is that's unethical. Then I read your statement again and realize you are stating how we don't need to be cruel no matter what one's believe is about the vaccines. I agree with 100% about not being cruel or demeaning. Because we know blaming and belittling people has never been the solution.  Education and compassion, that's what we should do. I hope you are enjoying your retirement as much as you can.  Thank you for all of the years you dedicated to our public. 

nursej22, MSN, RN

Specializes in Public Health, TB. Has 37 years experience. 2,466 Posts

Definitions from the Oxford Dictionary: 

vaccine: A substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease

immunity: the ability of an organism to resist a particular infection or toxin by the action of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells.

nurse1985

nurse1985

Has 37 years experience. 2 Posts

On 10/25/2021 at 12:56 AM, LisaNICUrn said:

Everyone has a right to choose what they put in their body. Your vaccine? That doesn't even last 6 months before you need a "booster" because you're no longer protected? Or the chance of you having a severe adverse reaction to the vaccine vs the chance of getting covid? I'll take the chance of possibly getting covid and the unknown consequences of what it will do to my body vs knowingly putting something in my body that is still being researched, is being stopped in other countries because of their side effects, will require a "booster" every few months because it doesn't last that long, and I have no idea what it will do to me. My health will always come first and I will NEVER feel guilty for that, nor will I let anyone guilt me into getting the vaccine before I feel it is safe to take. I hope the barber you dropped is singing praises that someone like you is no longer sitting in their chair. 

   The fact that I'm seeing registered nurses on this site blatantly say they see people and hear they are unvaccinated and hope they die!! What?!? Are you kidding me? Do you feel that way about overweight people who still eat that fast food and ice cream and end up in DKA and lose a leg? Do you say that to the older generation who ends up in the ICU because they didn't get their Flu shot for the season and has the flu? 

  At the end of the day, when I take off my stethoscope, I still have to protect myself! I will not take something because I have RN at the end of my name simply because the government or my hospital tells me to. I teach my patients about doing their own research, about informed consent, about their rights as a patient, and I will do the same when it comes to my health as well. 

  I have done my own research, I am not anti-vax. But I have questions on this vaccine, It doesn't stop anyone from getting covid, and it doesn't stop anyone from spreading it, so why would I chance taking a brand new vaccine. Not only new vaccine, but mRNA technology is new. Sure, it's been around a while, yep! But it has never been used because all their test subjects (I.e rats) die. Every single one. So forgive me for not trusting something that hasn't been properly researched? There were no human trials before it was given to millions of people at the same time.  What will happen to people in 2 years? In 5 years? How often will we need boosters? Every 6 months (or 2 months for the J&J vaccine) for how long? 

   This thread has disgusted me, and I pray my family members are never taken care of from some of you. You all need to learn compassion and acceptance again, realize even nurses are entitled to their own medical decisions. The hospital wouldn't be in such dire circumstances if they weren't firing nurses for not getting the vaccine. Why don't you blame them for firing your help? Then they bring in the national guard? You know they don't have to be vaccinated until at least the beginning of the year right? So you're still stuck with unvaccinated people. opps. 

Wow, you really need anger management sessions!  

heron, ASN, RN

Specializes in Hospice. Has 50 years experience. 3,169 Posts

1 hour ago, nurse1985 said:

Wow, you really need anger management sessions!  

Maybe … although this seems to be the antivaxxers talking point du jour since the same “argument” is being presented in more than one thread lately. They conveniently ignore the data regarding the significant differences in both mortality and morbidity between vaccinated and unvaccinated pooulations. So… I have a hard time taking such rants particularly seriously. Seems more like attempted bullying to me.

PMFB-RN, RN

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response. Has 16 years experience. 5,341 Posts

6 hours ago, lifelive said:

It's extremely concerning to read the nurses say how unvaccinated people should just die and doesn't deserve care. 

You haven't read that in this discussion or my OP.  Maybe your comments would be a better fit in a discussion where that was said.

lifelive

lifelive, BSN

19 Posts

2 minutes ago, PMFB-RN said:

You haven't read that in this discussion or my OP.  Maybe your comments would be a better fit in a discussion where that was said.

Sir/Ma'am, 

My comprehensive is at 100%. You  literally stated you are done with people who are unvaccinated and refuse to say their vaccination status.  You also stated you want to make sure those who refuse to get vaccinated are never in a position of responsibility.  There are also other people who responded and said they should just die. What exactly are you trying to say? I know what I read and I know I how to comprehend. I get paid for a living to decipher what people say. To say they are stupid,  to say you are done with them, to say you will make sure they never been in a position of power or have responsibilities means what? If you say you're done with someone,  that's pretty much saying you're not going to provide care, and if you do, it's going to be subpar.  So don't try to tell me anything about what was or wasn't said. 

klone, MSN, RN

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership. Has 16 years experience. 14,276 Posts

Who here said unvaccinated people should just die? Because if you're referring to my first post in this thread, I ask that you reread what I wrote, everything before and after.

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VivaLasViejas, ASN, RN

Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych. Has 20 years experience. 142 Articles; 9,968 Posts

You could not pay me enough to come out of retirement. My son, who is also an RN, makes over $50/hour but he’s well on his way to burning out. He works 10-12 hours five or six days a week as a regional nurse for three different residential care facilities, and he has 24/7 responsibility for his residents. He also does flu/Covid shots and Covid testing, as if he didn’t have enough to do. He may not deal directly with Covid patients, but he frequently visits the area hospitals to evaluate potential residents so he risks exposure, even though he had Covid himself last Winter and is also vaccinated. (All of us at home are vaxxed as well.) 

The point is, nurses everywhere are overworked and overwhelmed, and there’s no end in sight. No wonder retired nurses don’t want to go back…most of us are older and can’t/won’t withstand the poor working conditions, to say nothing of the physical strain of floor nursing. All the money in the world isn’t enough to compensate for the loss of a nurse’s peace, well-being and sanity. And that’s all I have to say about that.

PMFB-RN, RN

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response. Has 16 years experience. 5,341 Posts

1 hour ago, lifelive said:

Sir/Ma'am, 

My comprehensive is at 100%. You  literally stated you are done with people who are unvaccinated and refuse to say their vaccination status.  You also stated you want to make sure those who refuse to get vaccinated are never in a position of responsibility.  There are also other people who responded and said they should just die. What exactly are you trying to say? 

As I made perfectly clear I'm done doing business with them. Nothing was said,  suggested, or implied about them not getting health care or dying and its dishonest of you to falsely say it was.

    I haven't seem any replies in the discussion that said they want the unvaxxed to die.

    In fact it's the unvaxxed who are literally killing us.

     If my barber hung a "whites only" sign in his shop I would refuse him my business. 

     

lifelive

lifelive, BSN

19 Posts

16 minutes ago, PMFB-RN said:

As I made perfectly clear I'm done doing business with them. Nothing was said,  suggested, or implied about them not getting health care or dying and its dishonest of you to falsely say it was.

    I haven't seem any replies in the discussion that said they want the unvaxxed to die.

    In fact it's the unvaxxed who are literally killing us.

     If my barber hung a "whites only" sign in his shop I would refuse him my business. 

     

It's not unvaxxed killing us and you did say if they are unvaxxed you make sure they are not in a position of power. Maybe because of your anger, you didn't express what you meant, as in your just referring to people who you spend your money with. Because it came off as if you're referring to your patients as well. I know plenty of unvaxxed individuals that didn't go to the hospitals,  quarantined at home and they didn't kill anyone. So, to blame a group of people, who by the way didn't create this, is wrong. Maybe it is time for you to do something different because your anger is going to hurt someone. 

heron, ASN, RN

Specializes in Hospice. Has 50 years experience. 3,169 Posts

7 minutes ago, lifelive said:

It's not unvaxxed killing us and you did say if they are unvaxxed you make sure they are not in a position of power. Maybe because of your anger, you didn't express what you meant, as in your just referring to people who you spend your money with. Because it came off as if you're referring to your patients as well. I know plenty of unvaxxed individuals that didn't go to the hospitals,  quarantined at home and they didn't kill anyone. So, to blame a group of people, who by the way didn't create this, is wrong. Maybe it is time for you to do something different because your anger is going to hurt someone. 

When did “positions of power” become synonymous with “patient needing care”?

I think your scriptwriter needs to review the definition of “straw man fallacy” … emphasis on “fallacy”.