The medium-sized hospital (275 beds) where I work only has one ICU. But thanks to the unvaxxed we have had to open another ICU for COVID patients again.
We first did this last Winter and it was awful, but it was nobody's fault. Now it is.
We are keeping our COVID ICU open by nurses working overtime. Many have been working five or six 12 to 16-hour shifts a week for months now. People's lives are falling apart. In the last year, two of our ICU nurses have committed suicide. I don't know everything that was going on in their lives, but I'm quite certain that working long hard hours for months, never being home, having no downtime to relax and recharge has a LOT to do with it.
We actually had more COVID patients last Winter, but they were older and not as sick. Like 70s and 80s, vs now it's people in their 50s-60s and they are MUCH sicker. They die like flies. We had a 31-year-old die, and several in their 40s. One died and after to code the doc called and informed her family, but somehow her two teenage daughters who were en route to the hospital didn't get the message and I had to tell them. I'm noticing signs of PTSD in our ICU nurses who are, for the most part, young people. Most are in their 20's. To work so hard taking care of their patients for weeks only to have them die is soul-destroying. I zipped nine people into body bags over the weekend.
Long planned vacations have been canceled, nurses are losing touch with their families and support systems.
I've spent a lot of time and energy talking to people about COVID and vaccines. I've provided them with the latest data and evidence. I've related what it's like for hospital patients with COVID. But it's a waste of time and effort so I'm done with it.
Everyone who isn't stupid is already vaccinated and that just leaves the stupid, and you can't fix stupid. I'll no longer refute disinformation with accurate information, just point out they are liars and move on.
My goal is no longer to convince people to get vaccinated. Now my goal is to identify as many of them as possible so that I can do everything in my power to ensure they are never given a position of responsibility again.
I've already started asking those I do business with about their vaccination status. Unvaxxed or refuse to answer and I'm done with them. My mechanic got vaccinated. I had to switch to another (vaccinated) barber. I spoke at two of my local school board meetings in favor of masking the students (including my children) and requiring vaccinations of all staff. I let them know I would be filing a lawsuit if they failed to do either. Luckily they did both.
All of 2020 I worked with Covid positive patients and luckily did not get sick. I had already put in my papers to retire so I retired in 2020. I have read a lot of the comments and really can't say how I would feel if I was still working in a hospital filled with an over-run Covid patients. I guess Hospitals need to have all unvaccinated people sign a DNR when they register to be admitted and that way hospital staff will not have to deal with those as stated STUPID PEOPLE who refuse to get vaccinated and risk the lives of everyone. I myself do recommend everyone get the shot but do refrain from becoming cruel or demeaning to them if they refuse. I do know some have medical histories or have experienced an adverse reaction to other vaccinations and refuse the Covid and Flu shot both.
Good Luck to everyone still working in the hospital. Wishing the Best to All.
All of 2020 I worked with Covid positive patients and luckily did not get sick. I had already put in my papers to retire so I retired in 2020. I have read a lot of the comments and really can't say how I would feel if I was still working in a hospital filled with an over-run Covid patients. I guess Hospitals need to have all unvaccinated people sign a DNR when they register to be admitted and that way hospital staff will not have to deal with those as stated STUPID PEOPLE who refuse to get vaccinated and risk the lives of everyone. I myself do recommend everyone get the shot but do refrain from becoming cruel or demeaning to them if they refuse. I do know some have medical histories or have experienced an adverse reaction to other vaccinations and refuse the Covid and Flu shot both.
Good Luck to everyone still working in the hospital. Wishing the Best to All.
At first when I read your statement, I just saw the part about making all unvaccinated people sign DNR and I became upset. First, thing came to my mind is that's unethical. Then I read your statement again and realize you are stating how we don't need to be cruel no matter what one's believe is about the vaccines. I agree with 100% about not being cruel or demeaning. Because we know blaming and belittling people has never been the solution. Education and compassion, that's what we should do. I hope you are enjoying your retirement as much as you can. Thank you for all of the years you dedicated to our public.
vaccine: A substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease
immunity: the ability of an organism to resist a particular infection or toxin by the action of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells.
Everyone has a right to choose what they put in their body. Your vaccine? That doesn't even last 6 months before you need a "booster" because you're no longer protected? Or the chance of you having a severe adverse reaction to the vaccine vs the chance of getting covid? I'll take the chance of possibly getting covid and the unknown consequences of what it will do to my body vs knowingly putting something in my body that is still being researched, is being stopped in other countries because of their side effects, will require a "booster" every few months because it doesn't last that long, and I have no idea what it will do to me. My health will always come first and I will NEVER feel guilty for that, nor will I let anyone guilt me into getting the vaccine before I feel it is safe to take. I hope the barber you dropped is singing praises that someone like you is no longer sitting in their chair.
The fact that I'm seeing registered nurses on this site blatantly say they see people and hear they are unvaccinated and hope they die!! What?!? Are you kidding me? Do you feel that way about overweight people who still eat that fast food and ice cream and end up in DKA and lose a leg? Do you say that to the older generation who ends up in the ICU because they didn't get their Flu shot for the season and has the flu?
At the end of the day, when I take off my stethoscope, I still have to protect myself! I will not take something because I have RN at the end of my name simply because the government or my hospital tells me to. I teach my patients about doing their own research, about informed consent, about their rights as a patient, and I will do the same when it comes to my health as well.
I have done my own research, I am not anti-vax. But I have questions on this vaccine, It doesn't stop anyone from getting covid, and it doesn't stop anyone from spreading it, so why would I chance taking a brand new vaccine. Not only new vaccine, but mRNA technology is new. Sure, it's been around a while, yep! But it has never been used because all their test subjects (I.e rats) die. Every single one. So forgive me for not trusting something that hasn't been properly researched? There were no human trials before it was given to millions of people at the same time. What will happen to people in 2 years? In 5 years? How often will we need boosters? Every 6 months (or 2 months for the J&J vaccine) for how long?
This thread has disgusted me, and I pray my family members are never taken care of from some of you. You all need to learn compassion and acceptance again, realize even nurses are entitled to their own medical decisions. The hospital wouldn't be in such dire circumstances if they weren't firing nurses for not getting the vaccine. Why don't you blame them for firing your help? Then they bring in the national guard? You know they don't have to be vaccinated until at least the beginning of the year right? So you're still stuck with unvaccinated people. opps.
Maybe … although this seems to be the antivaxxers talking point du jour since the same “argument” is being presented in more than one thread lately. They conveniently ignore the data regarding the significant differences in both mortality and morbidity between vaccinated and unvaccinated pooulations. So… I have a hard time taking such rants particularly seriously. Seems more like attempted bullying to me.
You haven't read that in this discussion or my OP. Maybe your comments would be a better fit in a discussion where that was said.
Sir/Ma'am,
My comprehensive is at 100%. You literally stated you are done with people who are unvaccinated and refuse to say their vaccination status. You also stated you want to make sure those who refuse to get vaccinated are never in a position of responsibility. There are also other people who responded and said they should just die. What exactly are you trying to say? I know what I read and I know I how to comprehend. I get paid for a living to decipher what people say. To say they are stupid, to say you are done with them, to say you will make sure they never been in a position of power or have responsibilities means what? If you say you're done with someone, that's pretty much saying you're not going to provide care, and if you do, it's going to be subpar. So don't try to tell me anything about what was or wasn't said.
Specializes in Nurse Leader specializing in Labor & Delivery.
Who here said unvaccinated people should just die? Because if you're referring to my first post in this thread, I ask that you reread what I wrote, everything before and after.
Specializes in LTC, assisted living, med-surg, psych.
You could not pay me enough to come out of retirement. My son, who is also an RN, makes over $50/hour but he’s well on his way to burning out. He works 10-12 hours five or six days a week as a regional nurse for three different residential care facilities, and he has 24/7 responsibility for his residents. He also does flu/Covid shots and Covid testing, as if he didn’t have enough to do. He may not deal directly with Covid patients, but he frequently visits the area hospitals to evaluate potential residents so he risks exposure, even though he had Covid himself last Winter and is also vaccinated. (All of us at home are vaxxed as well.)
The point is, nurses everywhere are overworked and overwhelmed, and there’s no end in sight. No wonder retired nurses don’t want to go back…most of us are older and can’t/won’t withstand the poor working conditions, to say nothing of the physical strain of floor nursing. All the money in the world isn’t enough to compensate for the loss of a nurse’s peace, well-being and sanity. And that’s all I have to say about that.
Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
1 hour ago, lifelive said:
Sir/Ma'am,
My comprehensive is at 100%. You literally stated you are done with people who are unvaccinated and refuse to say their vaccination status. You also stated you want to make sure those who refuse to get vaccinated are never in a position of responsibility. There are also other people who responded and said they should just die. What exactly are you trying to say?
As I made perfectly clear I'm done doing business with them. Nothing was said, suggested, or implied about them not getting health care or dying and its dishonest of you to falsely say it was.
I haven't seem any replies in the discussion that said they want the unvaxxed to die.
In fact it's the unvaxxed who are literally killing us.
If my barber hung a "whites only" sign in his shop I would refuse him my business.
As I made perfectly clear I'm done doing business with them. Nothing was said, suggested, or implied about them not getting health care or dying and its dishonest of you to falsely say it was.
I haven't seem any replies in the discussion that said they want the unvaxxed to die.
In fact it's the unvaxxed who are literally killing us.
If my barber hung a "whites only" sign in his shop I would refuse him my business.
It's not unvaxxed killing us and you did say if they are unvaxxed you make sure they are not in a position of power. Maybe because of your anger, you didn't express what you meant, as in your just referring to people who you spend your money with. Because it came off as if you're referring to your patients as well. I know plenty of unvaxxed individuals that didn't go to the hospitals, quarantined at home and they didn't kill anyone. So, to blame a group of people, who by the way didn't create this, is wrong. Maybe it is time for you to do something different because your anger is going to hurt someone.
It's not unvaxxed killing us and you did say if they are unvaxxed you make sure they are not in a position of power. Maybe because of your anger, you didn't express what you meant, as in your just referring to people who you spend your money with. Because it came off as if you're referring to your patients as well. I know plenty of unvaxxed individuals that didn't go to the hospitals, quarantined at home and they didn't kill anyone. So, to blame a group of people, who by the way didn't create this, is wrong. Maybe it is time for you to do something different because your anger is going to hurt someone.
When did “positions of power” become synonymous with “patient needing care”?
I think your scriptwriter needs to review the definition of “straw man fallacy” … emphasis on “fallacy”.
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All of 2020 I worked with Covid positive patients and luckily did not get sick. I had already put in my papers to retire so I retired in 2020. I have read a lot of the comments and really can't say how I would feel if I was still working in a hospital filled with an over-run Covid patients. I guess Hospitals need to have all unvaccinated people sign a DNR when they register to be admitted and that way hospital staff will not have to deal with those as stated STUPID PEOPLE who refuse to get vaccinated and risk the lives of everyone. I myself do recommend everyone get the shot but do refrain from becoming cruel or demeaning to them if they refuse. I do know some have medical histories or have experienced an adverse reaction to other vaccinations and refuse the Covid and Flu shot both.
Good Luck to everyone still working in the hospital. Wishing the Best to All.