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If Tulsa becomes a hotzone, I won't be volunteering there

No masks?

No social distancing???

If you get sick , don't count on me..

Kitiger specializes in Private Duty Pediatrics.

I'm not sure that the people of Tulsa even wanted President Trump's rally to be held there. The governor, maybe, but not the people of Tulsa.

NRSKarenRN specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.

Tulsa already is a hot zone:

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) | Tulsa Health Department

https://www.tulsa-health.org/COVID19

COVID-19 Tracker: New Hot Spots in Broken Bow and Tulsa ...

https://oklahomawatch.org/2020/06/05/weekly-tracker-covid-19-by-zip-code/

Trumps Tulsa Rally -convention center holds 19,000 -- appeared  about 2/3 full.  Overflow parking lot appearance next door, cancelled due to lack attendee's.

Whirlpool major employer~ 1,200 staff closed down for deep cleaning due to numerous positive staff.

 

 

 

Many, if not most of the people we care for as nurses get sick because of lifestyle choices. Smoking, terrible eating habits,  drugs and alcohol, driving too fast, you name it...

 I get it, you don't like Trump. You don't want to take care of people who might have gotten covid from a rally of his. You probably feel differently about the people in the protest against the police I'll bet.

heron specializes in Hospice.

3 hours ago, Emergent said:

Many, if not most of the people we care for as nurses get sick because of lifestyle choices. Smoking, terrible eating habits,  drugs and alcohol, driving too fast, you name it...

 I get it, you don't like Trump. You don't want to take care of people who might have gotten covid from a rally of his. You probably feel differently about the people in the protest against the police I'll bet.

You don’t specify to whom you are speaking, so I’ll assume it’s the OP.

First, you’re projecting. OP did not mention either  BLM or Trump. Personally, I think you’ve also drawn somewhat of a false equivalence here.

Second, even if your assumptions are correct, so what? Doesn’t the OP get to choose where s/he volunteers to risk her own welfare in support of an action with which she agrees, or at least sympathizes?

The info about Tulsa being a “hot spot” keeps getting shared on facebook. But the number of new cases can be best measured in dozens, and the number of deaths ranges from zero to single-digit daily (an all-time high of 6 deaths on one day in early May), according to your link. I have a friend who linked to that same graphic saying “shooting up exponentially”.  Which is true, but a lot like when the news says “plane crashes have increased by 200 percent!” because there was one last year and two this year. I mean, I’m just saying...I’m from Connecticut. Oklahoma doesn’t really seem to qualify as a “hot spot” by any common-sense measure, so I don’t see why they would need to follow the same strict rules that we have been in the NY tristate area. 

A Hit With The Ladies specializes in Psych.

Okay, I live in Houston. Texas has been one of the fastest growing Coronavirus hotspots in the country these past few weeks. About two weeks back, sixty thousand protesters (many unmasked, with no social distancing) showed up to protest George Floyd's killing.

Are you going to be fair and say that you wouldn't volunteer (not that we need you here), too?

A big fat yawn and 'whatever' to this thinly disguised attempt to start a thread about how awful Trump is to have a rally in the middle of this Covid situation. 

I'm not going to Tulsa either btw, not that anyone cares. 'Cause, no one gives a rip.

It doesn't take a genius to read between the lines of the opening statement,  duh. Even a dumb boomer like me can figure it out...

heron specializes in Hospice.

Neither of you has given a reason why the OP - or anyone else, for that matter - is required to be “fair” about where s/he volunteers.

Is it your position that if s/he volunteers to work for the Trump rally that she is also obligated to volunteer to work for the protesters as well??

A Hit With The Ladies specializes in Psych.

1 minute ago, heron said:

Is it your position that if s/he volunteers to work for the Trump rally that she is also obligated to volunteer to work for the protesters as well??

I could care less what the OP does. The OP was insinuating that the Tulsa residents are not worthy of getting COVID-related medical help because they hosted a Trump rally.

macawake has 12 years experience as a MSN.

Honestly Emergent, why keep bumping this thread to the top of the page when it’s such a yawn/whatever? I wasn’t going to reply, but the thread keeps popping up 😁

If someone wonders about OP’s rationale for not wanting to volunteer, why not ask her/him, instead of just assuming what her/his thoughts are.

And no, OP doesn’t have to be fair about what s/he chooses to do with her/his non-working hours. Neither do any of you. 
 

I think it’s a good thing that the convention center wasn’t filled to capacity. Hopefully that made it easier to practise social distancing.

Edited by macawake

HandsOffMySteth has 2 years experience.

No one started a thread "if BLM protesters don't social distance don't count on me", so I think it's safe to make certain assumptions. What other point might the OP be trying to make?

And another thing, I had a weird dream last night about taking a road trip, and going a little further than New Mexico just for the heck of it. I was going to Loop through Oklahoma for some reason, nothing to do with this Trump rally since I actually wasn't too aware of it until I made the connection due to this thread.

I didn't want to go all the way to the east coast cuz it would take too long, so I thought maybe I'll go as far as Oklahoma and check it out.

 

macawake has 12 years experience as a MSN.

You lost me. Why should we judge a posters’ motivations based on a thread they or thousands of other posters didn’t start? 
 

You don’t know for certain that OP wouldn’t think a Biden rally wouldn’t be an equally unwise idea. If you or anyone else wants to know what OP means, why not simply ask?

Edited by macawake

I think we in the United States know how things go here. If it was more to the right-wing conservative type person, they like to criticize the protesters and rioters. If it's a left-wing liberal type, they are going to point fingers at the Trump rally.

If Bill Clinton or Joe Biden had questionable affairs, the liberals don't talk about it a lot, and the conservatives make a big deal about it. If Donald Trump fooled around, or is accused of being sexist and crude, the conservatives turn the other way, and the liberals make accusations and share video evidence on facebook and Twitter.

 

pixierose specializes in ED, psych.

2 hours ago, juniper222 said:

No one started a thread "if BLM protesters don't social distance don't count on me", so I think it's safe to make certain assumptions. What other point might the OP be trying to make?

Oh sweet Jesus, I’m actually (kinda) agreeing with Juniper. 

As nurses I think we do, *to an extent*, have choice as to who we take care of when we accept an assignment. I’ve been lucky to work with coworkers that have switched with me for whatever reason, and vice versa (I.e., patient threatened me, or attacked a coworker ... which happens in psych and the ED). In regards to the Tulsa rally, or BLM, volunteer wise we would have a choice ... but if these patients landed in our hospitals - I would think most (if not all) of us would care for them regardless of our partisan viewpoints.

Reading the OP, I’m going to safely assume OP was referring to the Trump rally (but, whether it was a partisan issue only s/he can say). Hopefully the OP will come back to elaborate.

To suggest that liberals don't talk about sexual misconduct of liberal politicians is dishonest.  Al Franken comes immediately to mind. We certainly talked about Bill Clinton's sexual accusations more than we did GHWBush's.

The reality is that sexual harassment and misconduct is as common in American politics as misogyny. 

Every time I see BLM, I think "What does the Bureau of Land Management have to do with this discussion?".

 

43 minutes ago, Emergent said:

Every time I see BLM, I think "What does the Bureau of Land Management have to do with this discussion?".

 

That was the Bundy group. 

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