If you can't pass the NCLEX after three attempts....LVN license only!

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I just read in another thread that some Boards of nursing are allowing multiple attempts at taking the NCLEX exam. Is this true? If so, this is ridiculous! If we are trying to elevate the profession by requiring a minimum BSN to practice, then why are we allowing multiple attempts at taking the NCLEX? No reputable profession would allow this. If you can't pass it after three attempts then you shouldn't be allowed to practice as an RN. Boards of nursing should grant them an LVN license only!

Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.

My best friend is brilliant, super book smart. But when it comes to being compassionate, that's just not her thing.

Did she pass the NCLEX on one try with 75 questions? Of course. But how long did she stay a nurse? Less than 6 months & now she has moved on to a different career.

Whereas it took me two times & I love being a nurse!

I agree with the PP, you can't expect to start a post like this flaming a whole group of people then say move on because NO ONE agrees with you.

Specializes in LTC.

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OP, you are entitled to your opinion, sure.

but doesn't the fact that not one of the nurses on this site agrees with you tell you something? That should say to you that your opinion is very uninformed, to say the least.

Dont you think that maybe, just maybe, a group of licensed, actual nurses know more about being a nurse than you do? Graciously admit you were mistaken and ill-informed and move on.

Specializes in Forensic Nurse.

I totally agree with you on this point. There are nurses that passed the Boards on the first try and are still practicing unsafe nursing.

Specializes in Forensic Nurse.

I am always in favor of people being allowed to express their opinions freely without any backlash, but I think that "granting" RN license seekers an LPN license because they can not pass the Boards is an insult to all those LPN's who worked their butts off to pass. I think I do understand what you are trying to say about their ability or lack there of to pass after three attempts, but to give them a consolation prize of an LPN license for free would be an insult to those LPN's who pride themselves on being able to accomplish this first step in the field of nursing.

I am an LPN who is still new, however, their are times at my facility when I need assistance and I have to tell you that some of the RN's/BSN's are clueless, and its those same undermined LPN's with their years of experience that offers me assistance. That is not always the case I must add, RN's know their stuff as well, but please don't sell any one short because of value of the abbreviations behind their title.

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

What an insult to LVN/LPNs everywhere. I think 3 strikes, you're out. Period.

Specializes in Mental Health, Gerontology, Palliative.

In NZ international nurses seeking to train as a nurse/get registered as a nurse, they have to pass a minimum standard English exam.

No frying from me, that was my first conclusion I could possibly draw while wondering 'who in the heck is she going on about??'

In my senior year in school I was the 'nursing tutor' ($4.41 per hour!) and ALL of my tutorees were girls from Viet Nam or Thailand. Plenty smart, but their spoken/written English skills were such that they slowed them down, interfered with their critical thinking in ENGLISH (not in their native language). I ran this by a professor I felt close to and she brought it up to the Dean, as it was not a new concern.

If I may ask the OP, do you work with a nurse who's taken the board many times and find him/her substandard, or . . .? Do you know someone personally in this situation? If so, that would be interesting. Anecdotal but still interesting.

If not, why does it matter so much to you personally?

Specializes in Mental Health, Gerontology, Palliative.
I have my opinion and you have yours. I see nothing wrong with allowing someone who can't pass NCLEX-RN to take the NCLEX-PN and give them the license if they pass. I know several people who have done this. Again, my opinion. Moving on...

I find it really sad that you seem unable to realise that by offering up an LVN license as some sort of consolation prize to students unable to pass the RN exam is incredibly demeaning and derrogatory to the awesome amazing LVNs, LVNs and enrolled nurses out there

LVNs still have to pass a licensing exam.

I would have concerns re an LVN who is only such due to getting a consolation prize because they couldn't pass the RN exam

Kinda wish I HAD started using this thread as a drinking game. I'd be bagged by now, instead of merely tired and ready to go home ;)

Specializes in LTC, Med-surg.

I don't think its appropriate to say if you fail NCLEX "x" amount of times, you should not be a nurse or be a different type of nurse.

NCLEX is NO FACTOR on how someone might perform in the clinical setting. In the REAL world, you will not have multiple choices to choose from, you will think ALL on your own without "distractor" questions to eliminate. I think instinct and thinking on your feet is way more important than a test. Someone might be not so good on this test...because its a high stake, extremely stressful, maybe even abusive exam. I know some may argue if you can't handle a test, how can you handle real world nursing. But, there are also HUMANS, real life humans that will help you or you can refer to MULTIPLE times should you have an issue or concern. NCLEX doesn't take that into account. There is just so much more factors than just a stupid test that should make the "beginner nurse."

Specializes in hospice.
Someone might be not so good on this test...because its a high stake, extremely stressful, maybe even abusive exam. I know some may argue if you can't handle a test, how can you handle real world nursing.

Oh jeez :rolleyes: and :yes:

People might fry me on here,but the only people i see taking the test multiple times are graduates of Foreign Nursing schools.

It could be a language barrier problem with the multiple test takers.

One of my best friends graduated from UPenn and took the NCLEX twice because she failed the first time around. Not foreign, great school, just not well prepared for the exam by the school.

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