was I wrong

Crux1024 · Apr 26, 2008

I have already posted this in the student forum but i'll put it here as well. Me and another student had to do theses case studies. they are essentially 30 pages of questions. some are what would you do for this patient, some are formulate a nursing diagnosis. I just so happened to complete mine a week before she completed her's. Since my instructor had gave me mine back, I thought I would let her see mine so she would have an idea of what the teacher wanted. Was I wrong in doing this?

I've let classmates of mine look at papers I've done before them, so that they can get an idea of that the assignment it supposed to be like, but they dont keep them or copy them. They've also done me this favor at times, thats what friends are for!!

I dont see anything wrong with this, others may though.

TazziRN, RN · Apr 26, 2008

Letting her look at it to get an idea of the format is fine. Letting her copy from it would be wrong.

nrsman1 · Apr 26, 2008

Letting her look at it to get an idea of the format is fine. Letting her copy from it would be wrong.

alot of the questions were your own responses. she just wanted to know how do do one of these paperes since she had never done one before. The other questions were essentially definition type questions.

pagandeva2000, LPN · Apr 27, 2008

I don't see anything wrong with it. Most times, it is not plagerism, it is usually seeing things from someone else's perspective, how they came to a conclusion, etc...as long as they don't use it.

I have seen work from friends that have inspired me or gave me the kick that I needed to do the assignment.

TazziRN, RN · Apr 27, 2008

alot of the questions were your own responses. she just wanted to know how do do one of these paperes since she had never done one before. The other questions were essentially definition type questions.

You mean they were her own responses? Then there was nothing wrong with it. Are you being told otherwise, or just having second thoughts?

GooeyRN, ADN, BSN, CNA, LPN, RN · Apr 27, 2008

That's what friends are for! I see nothing wrong with letting her see what you did as an example. Now if she copied yours, thats another story. :nono:

nrsman1 · Apr 27, 2008

nobody said anything to me, I am just a worrier. no she did not use my answers we had just never did anything like this before so she needed to see where I went with it to give her ideas.

Scrubby · Apr 27, 2008

I don't believe you did any wrong. But i do think students need to be careful. I had a fellow student almost copy an essay that i did word for word. Lucky for us the lecturer didn't even notice but since then i've been pretty cautious about lending my work to anyone.

RheatherN, ASN, RN, EMT-P · Apr 27, 2008

we are supposed to be there to help one another. but i can see where others would make a huge deal out of it. just make sure you dont tell anyone and tell her to keep it shut too. JIC!

to me, thats not any different than when an instructor shows us a paper to get the flow right. but we have had ppl get kicked out for such thing. just be careful as heck!

-H-

P_RN, ADN, RN · Apr 27, 2008

Not so much wrong as it's fudging a grade.

I admit when writing a certian type of letter I go to Miss Emily Post's Was it a long paper like thesis or a short patient activity report?

I use Emily Post's etiquette bookwhen writing letters of condolences.

Brtty Crocker the same way..

As I worked for physician while is school I had access to all his medical volumes as well as thousands of clinical magazine I as able to contest an mistaken(what I wantd it to be) grade. I got it changed every time.

No copying word fot word. Nevertheless in some of these old, similar texts you can find what you want in simple to understandte terminology.

Daytonite, BSN, RN · Apr 27, 2008

i had an instructor in one of my medical coding classes that gave take home tests and encouraged us to work together in groups to get these and one big assignment we had to complete on the computer that involved creating a database and graph from a case study. it didn't take long before some of us realized that a few of the students weren't pulling their weight and were just leeching answers off us others. i did report this to the instructor, but she was unimpressed. i can only guess that there had been incidents of cheating in the past and this was her answer to it. besides, we have to take a national certification exam (this is similar to the nclex in nursing, just not required by law, however, you won't get a good high paying job without it) and the cheaters who don't study to learn this material haven't got a snowball's chance in hades of passing this certification exam. i was the first to finish the database and graph case study after putting a lot of hours and thinking into it and earned full points for completing it correctly. of course everyone wanted to see it. there was no way i was giving away the answers to the clues it took me a few sleepless nights and several discarded databases and graphs to figure out. so, what i did was show people my first attempts and revealed nothing else except to read the instructions very carefully and the hints which were boldfaced on the instruction sheet. nursing isn't the only discipline that uses critical thinking skills. as it turned out, one of my classmates very craftily lead me to believe she had turned hers in and it had been graded so she wanted to compare hers with mine. turns out it wasn't true. the minute she saw my database she realized what the big hint was on the instruction sheet was and the part that involved patient confidentiality and she spread it to the rest of the class. and, of course, the instructor didn't care. i let it go and stopped showing up early for class so i wouldn't have to share any more of my case study with people. but the thing i thought was sad was that people were waiting until the last week of class to do this case study which took hours to do on the computer when they needed the time to be preparing for the final exam.