(So glad I stumbled across this website again after almost 6 years! I need to change my username because I am not an aspiring nurse anymore, I have been a nurse for almost 3 years! ?)
Anyway, I really do not want to take this new covid vaccine. I know I can’t be the only one who feels this way. Typically I am not an anti-vaxxer but something about this illness is making me think otherwise. For personal reasons I really do not want to take it when available at my hospital, but I’m afraid it will be mandatory. I am almost considering finding a new job if my hospital forces us all to take it. What a shame because I do like my job and wouldn’t know what else to turn to that isn’t nursing, because chances are most healthcare related places of employment will likely require all employees take it.
I want to use the excuse of it being against my religion but I already took the flu vaccine this year. I have nothing against the flu vaccine but didn’t necessarily want it, but my hospital practically FORCED everyone to take it unless they grant you an exemption. I’m afraid they’ll question me why I took the flu shot but cannot take the covid vaccine.
What do you guys think about this? Will you be taking the vaccine? I just want us to be able to make our own decisions about this. If patients can refuse medications, procedures, and treatments, why can’t healthcare workers do the same? I read in multiple articles it will not be required by the federal government but each state and employer can decide whether or not it will be mandatory.
And forget the $1500 “stimulus check” that may be offered if you take it. All the money in the world would not change my mind about taking the vaccine. I feel as though if you have to bribe people to take it, something is peculiar.
I don’t know why this is bothering me so much. It should be a choice in my opinion. But by telling a few friends about not wanting it I feel judged. I have worked with covid patients multiple times since I am one of the younger nurses who does not have any kids/am pregnant. I feel like week after week I was always chosen to go to the covid section. At first I was mad but now it doesn’t bother me. I am not afraid to be near covid patients. Luckily through all this time I haven’t caught it. I always tell people I’d rather catch it than get this vaccine. That’s how strongly I feel against taking the vaccine. All of my non-nursing who have had covid are covered and thriving. To me catching it isn’t the biggest deal but others have called me selfish because I could be spreading it to others. Why is it looked at as selfish for not wanting to inject something into MY body. #mybodymychoice
Am I thinking about this too much? What would you do?
I believe hospitals are likely to require these vaccinations just as they require the flu vaccine. That is what this post was about. I was upset at my former hospital that required RN’s to get flu shots, but not MD’s or visitors. Indeed we could even come to work sick with the flu (so long as we had the shot and indeed were encouraged to do do). I fear the Covid vaccination requirement will become even more widespread and seek to move somewhere where this mandate ( and others) might be less likely to be enforced.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
1 hour ago, myoglobin said:
I believe hospitals are likely to require these vaccinations just as they require the flu vaccine. That is what this post was about. I was upset at my former hospital that required RN’s to get flu shots, but not MD’s or visitors. Indeed we could even come to work sick with the flu (so long as we had the shot and indeed were encouraged to do do). I fear the Covid vaccination requirement will become even more widespread and seek to move somewhere where this mandate ( and others) might be less likely to be enforced.
OK
But will hospitals in a different or more conservative state feel differently about the reasons to require vaccination of direct care staff against influenza or covid 19? Why do you think hospitals in Wyoming (your example) might be less likely to require influenza or covid vaccination to protect staff and patients? The more people in Wyoming (or any state) who get vaccinated the fewer cases of covid the state will see. It seems like that would be the goal of every state's public health department...fewer cases.
My main concerns will be if the Democrats take both seats in Georgia. If that happens the next steps will likely be to do away with the filibuster rule. Then and only then will the Supreme Court likely be "altered" in number with an increased number of seats appointed by Biden. Then and only then due my concerns become much greater. As for the immigration laws, that was meant as an analogy. Certain so called "sanctuary cities" were less inclined to support federal enforcement of immigration law (and were effective in doing this to different degrees). My hopes were that "ultra" conservative states like Wyoming might be less inclined to enforce possible forthcoming federal mandates on Covid, guns and other issues. If necessary I am willing to leave my 300K per year 1099 job and live in a single wide trailer high in Rocky Mountains in the hopes that it means having freedom for a little while longer. I wouldn't trade 100 years of extra life if it means giving up my liberties.
I agree 100%. I’m willing to give up everything, pick up my kids and move on a farm in Montana if necessary. I juSt hope the ultra conservative states stay strong.
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1 hour ago, myoglobin said:
I believe hospitals are likely to require these vaccinations just as they require the flu vaccine. That is what this post was about. I was upset at my former hospital that required RN’s to get flu shots, but not MD’s or visitors. Indeed we could even come to work sick with the flu (so long as we had the shot and indeed were encouraged to do do). I fear the Covid vaccination requirement will become even more widespread and seek to move somewhere where this mandate ( and others) might be less likely to be enforced.
Hospitals requiring vaccination for their front line workers is a LOT different from the federal government requiring vaccination of all citizens. Flu shots are required by many hospitals yet the federal government hasn't mandated that all citizens be immunized each fall. I sincerely doubt that even as evil and diabolical as we snowflake liberals are, that many of us would support a federal mandate for all US citizens to receive the COVID vaccine. In fact the only people I hear talking about a vaccine mandate are right wing conspiracy theorists who also believe the vaccine is a plot by Bill Gates to put microchips in us. Seems legit bro.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
5 minutes ago, Thanksforthedonuts said:
I agree 100%. I’m willing to give up everything, pick up my kids and move on a farm in Montana if necessary. I juSt hope the ultra conservative states stay strong.
Do you think that covid vaccination is a conservative or liberal issue? Do hospitals make decisions about staff vaccination based upon political beliefs?
Do you think that covid vaccination is a conservative or liberal issue? Do hospitals make decisions about staff vaccination based upon political beliefs?
No, not at all. I think of vaccination as a personal choice. I do believe however that many of the recommendations regarding some medications and treatments can be swayed by certain groups due to monetary gains.
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36 minutes ago, Thanksforthedonuts said:
No, not at all. I think of vaccination as a personal choice. I do believe however that many of the recommendations regarding some medications and treatments can be swayed by certain groups due to monetary gains.
Are you concerned that hospitals will make decisions about covid vaccination of direct care employees based upon monetary or economic goals or objectives? It is cost effective to not have staff off work, ill with vaccine preventable diseases.
What groups might sway hospitals one way or another relative to employee vaccination, do you think? Do you think that there are conservative groups that would sway hospitals against vaccination mandates? Could you name an example?
What groups might sway hospitals one way or another relative to employee vaccination, do you think? Do you think that there are conservative groups that would sway hospitals against vaccination mandates? Could you name an example?
It might be a bit soon to tell. Conservatives are in a bit of a quandary because first they downplayed the virus and why vaccinate against a virus the is no big deal.
Also their leaders such as Trump and is protégées such as the Governor of Florida are banking on the vaccine to help with the high rates of infection they are partially responsible for.
So conservatives are gung ho about the vaccination, but also they have a history of being anti-vax, so it's a bit reasonable to think they may start to voice opinions about vaccination mandates. Here in Florida there will be no mandates.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
2 minutes ago, Tweety said:
It might be a bit soon to tell. Conservatives are in a bit of a quandary because first they downplayed the virus and why vaccinate against a virus the is no big deal.
Also their leaders such as Trump and is protégées such as the Governor of Florida are banking on the vaccine to help with the high rates of infection they are partially responsible for.
So conservatives are gung ho about the vaccination, but also they have a history of being anti-vax, so it's a bit reasonable to think they may start to voice opinions about vaccination mandates. Here in Florida there will be no mandates.
The fear expressed is that hospitals would require vaccination of staff, not government. I think that is likely that hospitals will mandate covid vaccine like influenza when the vaccines are fully authorized for use in country. Emergency use authorization makes it difficult for health business to require vaccination at this early point. But next year? Yeah I could see some hospitals requiring vaccination.
The fear expressed is that hospitals would require vaccination of staff, not government. I think that is likely that hospitals will mandate covid vaccine like influenza when the vaccines are fully authorized for use in country. Emergency use authorization makes it difficult for health business to require vaccination at this early point. But next year? Yeah I could see some hospitals requiring vaccination.
I can see it too but I think the experience of requiring it for Influenza might make them a bit more conservative. There have been many lawsuits against hospital mandates for influenza. There was a lawsuit this year yet again, although I'm not sure what the Christian moral objection is.
But will hospitals in a different or more conservative state feel differently about the reasons to require vaccination of direct care staff against influenza or covid 19? Why do you think hospitals in Wyoming (your example) might be less likely to require influenza or covid vaccination to protect staff and patients? The more people in Wyoming (or any state) who get vaccinated the fewer cases of covid the state will see. It seems like that would be the goal of every state's public health department...fewer cases.
I no longer work in a hospital. I work from home tele. However after covid I will have to see clients who want schedule 2 medications for the first time in person. I fear my 1099 employer might require Covid vaccination. In Wyoming I could start my own business and perhaps avoid this requirement.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
44 minutes ago, myoglobin said:
I no longer work in a hospital. I work from home tele. However after covid I will have to see clients who want schedule 2 medications for the first time in person. I fear my 1099 employer might require Covid vaccination. In Wyoming I could start my own business and perhaps avoid this requirement.
You didn't answer my questions about those employer mandates and whether they are decided based upon the politics of the region or state...does the scientific rationale for employers mandating the vaccines change dependent upon the local politics? You didn't say whether or not you think it's less likely to be mandated by an employer in Wyoming than in a state you consider to be liberal.
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I believe hospitals are likely to require these vaccinations just as they require the flu vaccine. That is what this post was about. I was upset at my former hospital that required RN’s to get flu shots, but not MD’s or visitors. Indeed we could even come to work sick with the flu (so long as we had the shot and indeed were encouraged to do do). I fear the Covid vaccination requirement will become even more widespread and seek to move somewhere where this mandate ( and others) might be less likely to be enforced.