(So glad I stumbled across this website again after almost 6 years! I need to change my username because I am not an aspiring nurse anymore, I have been a nurse for almost 3 years! ?)
Anyway, I really do not want to take this new covid vaccine. I know I can’t be the only one who feels this way. Typically I am not an anti-vaxxer but something about this illness is making me think otherwise. For personal reasons I really do not want to take it when available at my hospital, but I’m afraid it will be mandatory. I am almost considering finding a new job if my hospital forces us all to take it. What a shame because I do like my job and wouldn’t know what else to turn to that isn’t nursing, because chances are most healthcare related places of employment will likely require all employees take it.
I want to use the excuse of it being against my religion but I already took the flu vaccine this year. I have nothing against the flu vaccine but didn’t necessarily want it, but my hospital practically FORCED everyone to take it unless they grant you an exemption. I’m afraid they’ll question me why I took the flu shot but cannot take the covid vaccine.
What do you guys think about this? Will you be taking the vaccine? I just want us to be able to make our own decisions about this. If patients can refuse medications, procedures, and treatments, why can’t healthcare workers do the same? I read in multiple articles it will not be required by the federal government but each state and employer can decide whether or not it will be mandatory.
And forget the $1500 “stimulus check” that may be offered if you take it. All the money in the world would not change my mind about taking the vaccine. I feel as though if you have to bribe people to take it, something is peculiar.
I don’t know why this is bothering me so much. It should be a choice in my opinion. But by telling a few friends about not wanting it I feel judged. I have worked with covid patients multiple times since I am one of the younger nurses who does not have any kids/am pregnant. I feel like week after week I was always chosen to go to the covid section. At first I was mad but now it doesn’t bother me. I am not afraid to be near covid patients. Luckily through all this time I haven’t caught it. I always tell people I’d rather catch it than get this vaccine. That’s how strongly I feel against taking the vaccine. All of my non-nursing who have had covid are covered and thriving. To me catching it isn’t the biggest deal but others have called me selfish because I could be spreading it to others. Why is it looked at as selfish for not wanting to inject something into MY body. #mybodymychoice
Am I thinking about this too much? What would you do?
you have a right to decline a vaccine - but its important to make an informed decision- is there a specific reason or underlying issue causing your angst towards it??
Also according to Johns Hopkins my risk of dying from covid-19 risk of death is about 1.7per 1000000 https://covid19risktools.com:8443/:
Based on the information you have provided, the tool estimates that you have 0.19 (95% CI: 0.18 - 0.21 ) times the risk of dying from COVID-19 compared to the average risk for the US population.
Based on the estimated risk, you are categorized to be at Closer to or lower than average risk based on the follwing chart:
Fold-RiskRisk CategoryColor Code
<= 1.2Close to or lower than average
> 1.2 to <= 2Moderately elevated
> 2 to <= 5Substantially elevated
> 5 to <= 10High
> 10Very High
Further, based on the information available from pandemic projections in your state of residence, the tool estimates an absolute rate of mortality of 1.7 (95% CI: 1.2 - 2.4 ) per 100000 individuals in subgroups of the population with a similar risk profile to yours during the period of 12/12/2020 - 01/01/2021. This estimate is calculated based on the CDC's Ensemble mortality forecast data..
*95% CI: Error bounds with 95% confidence.
This compares to a generic risk of dying from heart disease of at least 114 per 100000 per year https://www.CDC.gov/heartdisease/men.htm and yet I don't take a statin, ASA or even go to an MD for a regular physical. One could conclude that there are many, many more important activities for my health than taking the covid vaccine.
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2 hours ago, myoglobin said:
... One could conclude that there are many, many more important activities for my health than taking the covid vaccine.
Public health goals of achieving vaccine mediated herd immunity will require patriots to participate in vaccination, willingly, for the common good. So that life can regain some normalcy. If 30% of the population is self oriented achieving herd immunity will be very difficult and our economy and population will suffer as a result.
And yet you advocate to make older individuals dependent on government payments...and we all have seen what happens in that economic situation. Instead of ultimately helping the older citizen to be out and about in society you are advocating turning each individuals home into its own nursing home by sending in food and other supplies, free of charge from the government.
I have endeavored to provide a comfortable situation when I retired. Applied for any and every scholarship, worked 2 jobs when approaching graduate school and afterwards and lived in homes I was flipping to make money from the real estate. (lived in midwest with no a/c and shower) My tax records detail this. I still have a used books business that is on hold because of the difficulty obtaining stock. I did and do all this, not to hibernate in my home, creating my own nursing home placement.
Londonflo: I understand every sad thing you mention in this post since I've been in my little Midwestern house since March 13 (lots of outdoor activities in the Summer when it wasn't too hot) but what struck me was that you did it WITHOUT airconditioning!! 9 months in the house because people can't behave responsibly. If we had man and womaned up from the beginning by simply wearing a mask and distancing, we wouldn't be where we are now. We actually fed the virus giving it the hosts it needed. So much destruction and heartache created in the name of "freedom". "They" didn't want to put a piece of cloth over their faces, stay away from bars, Trump rallies, etc. Now my freedom to go to a movie, see friends, etc. has been denied. And I'm a healthy person who doesn't want to give it to friends who aren't as lucky as I. I don't look forward to taking any first generation drug if I don't have to, but nor do I want to hurt others by unintentionally spreading it to others. I'm grateful to have it here off in the distance, possibly someday, maybe by late Summer. And I won't give Nero the credit for getting the vaccine out so rapidly. I credit only the scientists because I know that ANYONE in Trump's job who has been standing around fiddling while Rome was burning, would have been office while the scientists and the drug companies marched ahead. These vaccines are coming out despite Trump, not because of him.
If masks and social distancing are the answer then why has almost every European country suffered a similar fate (repeated closings and lockdowns) despite more restrictive lockdowns and mask laws? The peer reviewed Danish study proved that masks have little (if any) protective effect on catching the Covid 19 virus https://www.factcheck.org/2020/11/danish-study-doesnt-prove-masks-don't-work-against-the-coronavirus/ . However, it did not prove that masks don't help prevent it's spread (they probably do). However, the approach that I advise of lower risk people (under 65 without comorbidities) going back to work where necessary (working from home where possible) and providing better masks (N-95) and goggles/faceshields for more at risk individuals who desire to go out has never been attempted.
Sorry to deflate your bubble but it is true. Just read below. I would think the corner would know.
GRAND COUNTY, Colo. (CBS4) – The Grand County coroner is calling attention to the way the state health department is classifying some deaths. The coroner, Brenda Bock, says two of their five deaths related to COVID-19 were people who died of gunshot wounds.
Sorry to deflate your bubble but it is true. Just read below. I would think the corner would know.
GRAND COUNTY, Colo. (CBS4) – The Grand County coroner is calling attention to the way the state health department is classifying some deaths. The coroner, Brenda Bock, says two of their five deaths related to COVID-19 were people who died of gunshot wounds.
According to a CBS affiliate in Denver, they were classified as a death among cases.
Sorry to deflate your bubble but it is true. Just read below. I would think the corner would know.
The Coroner did know but wanted her 15 minutes of fame. Elected officials do not shy away from getting their name in the paper.
Close reading would show:
Quote
Deaths among COVID-19 cases:
This reflects people who died with COVID-19, but COVID-19 may not have been the cause of death listed on the death certificate.
CDPHE explains that they are required to report deaths among COVID-19 cases to the CDC.
We really do not know what statistical information will be helpful in the coming years of study of this pandemic. A similar approach was useful when studying the incidence of HIV and AIDS in the 80s. When stats are not collected at the time it is impossible to go back and gather them.
AMONG and DUE TO are important to distinguish. BTW these were 2 deaths due to GSW out of a total of 5 deaths. 60% died DUE TO Covid.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
1 hour ago, Jeckrn1 said:
Sorry to deflate your bubble but it is true. Just read below. I would think the corner would know.
GRAND COUNTY, Colo. (CBS4) – The Grand County coroner is calling attention to the way the state health department is classifying some deaths. The coroner, Brenda Bock, says two of their five deaths related to COVID-19 were people who died of gunshot wounds.
Did you really think that you were providing proof that states are intentionally inflating covid numbers? Holy hell...
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Also according to Johns Hopkins my risk of dying from covid-19 risk of death is about 1.7per 1000000 https://covid19risktools.com:8443/ :
Based on the information you have provided, the tool estimates that you have 0.19 (95% CI: 0.18 - 0.21 ) times the risk of dying from COVID-19 compared to the average risk for the US population.
Based on the estimated risk, you are categorized to be at Closer to or lower than average risk based on the follwing chart:
Fold-RiskRisk CategoryColor Code
<= 1.2Close to or lower than average
> 1.2 to <= 2Moderately elevated
> 2 to <= 5Substantially elevated
> 5 to <= 10High
> 10Very High
Further, based on the information available from pandemic projections in your state of residence, the tool estimates an absolute rate of mortality of 1.7 (95% CI: 1.2 - 2.4 ) per 100000 individuals in subgroups of the population with a similar risk profile to yours during the period of 12/12/2020 - 01/01/2021. This estimate is calculated based on the CDC's Ensemble mortality forecast data..
*95% CI: Error bounds with 95% confidence.
This compares to a generic risk of dying from heart disease of at least 114 per 100000 per year https://www.CDC.gov/heartdisease/men.htm and yet I don't take a statin, ASA or even go to an MD for a regular physical. One could conclude that there are many, many more important activities for my health than taking the covid vaccine.