I am so flippen mad!!!!!!!!

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ok well just found this out tonight at clinical. We got our grades last week (well our grades before our final this week), one of the students was told "your done" they got a unsatisfactory in clinical (med errors) and if you get a "U" in clinical you fail the program.

Now this is where it gets good. This person has been on probation since 2nd semester - now they fail clinical - BUT they are going to let them pass IF they do a paper. The reason why is the school does not want a law suit. UN FREAKIN BELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!

Guess the school is in a law suit now for getting rid of one student (student is playing the race card) and they don't want anybody else mad!!!!

Im just so mad - I work hard - and now I see somebody else slide thru - AAAAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!:angryfire Im sorry I just had to vent!!!!!!

I have 24 days left and then Im outta of there :w00t:

Specializes in Trauma/Burn ICU, Neuro ICU.

My comment: Whatever someone else gets does not diminish you in any way. It should only be about you. Relax. If she's this big a screw up, she'll get caught somewhere else along the way. Honestly, sweetie - it's not your business.

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Specializes in ICU, OR.

Unfortunately, society seems to have arrived at a point where he who cheats and does not suffer the consequences wins. It is not only nursing that has this attitude. Wait until you follow the policy and procedure manual to a tee and a visitor complains, then you are told to apologize and that "policy and procedure does not always apply". This happened to me. Raises my blood pressure, that is for sure!

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Specializes in Trauma/Burn ICU, Neuro ICU.

oops!

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Specializes in Med/Surge, Psych, LTC, Home Health.

I can relate somewhat; I went to nursing school with people who cheated a lot. I never let it concern me too much.

I can understand your frustration though. But trust me, everything that this person has done will eventually catch up with him/her. If everything you said is true, it's likely that the BON won't even let them take boards.

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WOW - thought I could vent here - thats all. SELFISH!?? LOL if you knew me you would NEVER say that. again this was just a VENT, its done vent over, I feel better. This is not some secret in our school - our whole class knows because this student told everybody himself. I would have been happy to be in the dark about it - the less I know the better. Im 42 years old its MY TURN to be happy and do what I enjoy doing.

thanks for letting me vent --- vent over

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Geriatrics.

You seem to know a lot of details about something that is not any of your business. Did the faculty share with you that this student is "playing the race card" and that they are going to allow him/her to pass because they are afraid of a lawsuit? I don't believe any of what you have shared so far. I agree with the others; concentrate on your own studies.

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Specializes in ICU, nutrition.

You said in your OP that you were venting, and I'm sorry that people are being hard on you for venting. However, try not to let what others in your class do bother you too much, if you're like me you won't see or keep in touch with many of those people once you're out of school. And if the BON is involved, even if this chickie graduates, that doesn't mean she'll get licensed.

I was told on the last day of clinicals that I would not pass the semester because I missed too many days. I went through the calendar with the instructor trying to find the days I missed. She was insistent that I had missed one more day than I actually had but she couldn't tell me which day. I had to do a huge case presentation (that took the equivalent hours of two clinical days...it was supposed to take one) and turn it in before my final in order to make up the absence. So I lost two days of studying for my final to do this stinking paper. When I went in to turn it in, she apologized and said it was SOMEONE ELSE who had missed a day of the ICU rotation, not me, and she'd made me do all that extra work for nothing. The sad thing is, I'd had lunch with the ICU preceptor the day I supposedly missed, if my instructor had just told me that was the day, we could have called her and she could have cleared it up.

It's been 7 years and I'm still p****d off!!

Congratulations on becoming a nurse, and good luck to you!!:cheers:

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Specializes in Jack of all trades, and still learning.
I agree - just sometimes you have to write it or say it - to get it off your chest - so I thought I could do that here - thats all - done - I said it - felt good to say my opinion now I will go on and study for finals this thursday and graduate in 24 days and hope I won't see this person ever again

Good on you for having your vent. That is what this board is for. Count down the days....24..23..22...21..........4...3...2...1..MADE IT!!!

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You seem to know a lot of details about something that is not any of your business. Did the faculty share with you that this student is "playing the race card" and that they are going to allow him/her to pass because they are afraid of a lawsuit? I don't believe any of what you have shared so far. I agree with the others; concentrate on your own studies.

My understanding from the OPs' posts is that the student is readily sharing said info. with everyone. If indeed this is accurate, I find it unfortunate that the school is allowing an individual to bully them. I understand that things happen in the real world, but just wait for the day when someone decides to attempt to hold a SON liable for graduating a seemingly unfit nurse with explicit knowledge that student should not graduate, and said nurse makes a serious mistake shortly after graduating. IMO, if the BON had not been notified, this would be a textbook case and the above scenario were to occur.

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In my RN program, 50% of the class flunked, but were let back in and "socially" passed by school admin.

I was with a number of these students in clinicals, as well as lecture. They were not very intelligent, that's for sure. Once, an instructor gave us a scenario: "You are taking care of a pt who was admitted for an intracranial bleed. This pt tells you she has the worst headache of her life. What would you do first?" One of these students shouted out "Give pain meds!"

This was three months before graduation.

In psych clinicals, when pts were telling students about their problems a few of these students tried to top the pts' stories, saying things like "You think that's bad, that's nothing compared to what I'm going through......"

A number of them had to take boards over and over again before they passed, and a couple of them never did pass.

I sure would not want any of them taking care of me, or anyone I care about.

I feel it does lessen the accomlishments of students who actually earned passing grades to socially pass those who flunked. I feel social passing is unathical, immoral and a danger to pts.

I understand the OP's feelings, and why she is mad.

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Geriatrics.
My understanding from the OPs' posts is that the student is readily sharing said info. with everyone. If indeed this is accurate, I find it unfortunate that the school is allowing an individual to bully them.

I do not care that she claims that this person supposedly told her all these things. I still don't believe that there is a student who:

broke into a locked room

openly cheated on a test

shows up to class drunk

fails clinical after making multiple errors........openly admits to all of this...

and yet the school, supposedly cowed into submission by the all-powerful "race card" and a threat of a lawsuit will pass this drunk, cheating minority despite all evidence of his or her academic and moral inferiority while the rest of the students had to work hard, hard, hard to get theirs. How many times have I heard this story in one form or another? I call bull. If it sounds like garbage, it probably is.

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Specializes in being a Credible Source.

Well, I'd try not to spend much emotional energy on something that you can do nothing about and which doesn't directly affect you.

The one thing that would irritate me, though, is this: Presuming this person graduates and gets licensed, they will be in the workforce as a representative of YOUR school and presumably damaging its reputation. We do all have a vested interest in having our school thought of as a good one in the minds of people who hire.

In my original field, I have been interviewed at least twice mostly because my alma mater has such a good reputation. From there, of course, it was up to me.

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