How many unvaccinated coworkers are you aware of?

Tweety, BSN, RN · Sep 17, 2021

I live in Florida where covid is rampant (but thankfully seems to be falling) and mandates of any kind, including masks are unpopular. The hospitals here in my area do not require the vaccine other than the children's hospital.

Really, I'm kind of in the camp with other folks in that I don't care because I'm vaccinated. One coworker is very ill in the hospital right now, another got out of the hospital a few weeks ago and says she still isn't right, one has been out over two months, and the list of the unvaccinated getting sick is getting longer. They made their choice and other than leaving us short staffed it doesn't affect me much.

toomuchbaloney · Sep 17, 2021

30 minutes ago, Auqtu said:

Again proving you are answering when you don't have all the facts. You don't know my position. But a virus that has such a large survival rate, more deaths attributed to it with commorbidities than not, and you are ready to pitch the Constitution, and label all noncompliance...some even calling for their firing! Your shot is your woobie....you got it...now relax. Why in attack mode? I bet those non vaxxed RNs have less sick days than you do.

I don't need to know your position to state that the vaccines are safe and effective and that healthcare employers have been requiring them of employees your entire life. The only people interested in "pitching the constitution" are those trying to limit voting or access to reproductive healthcare. Advocating for compliance with public health recommendations during a pandemic is decidedly NOT contrary to the constitution.

Your attempt to minimize the tragedy and trauma of this pandemic is noted.

Jack Hazz, BSN, RN · Sep 17, 2021

I'll be honest, I have coworkers who are not vaccinated. And yes, I look at them with tsk tsk tsk running through my brain. But then again, it is their choice. We can argue all day about trying to keep not only our patients safe, but family, friends and COWORKERS safe. But at the end of the day, no one here wants to be forced into doing something they don't want to do.

They chose to have swabs crammed into their nostrils every week, so be it.

guest1081095 · Sep 17, 2021

5 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:

I don't need to know your position to state that the vaccines are safe and effective and that healthcare employers have been requiring them of employees your entire life. The only people interested in "pitching the constitution" are those trying to limit voting or access to reproductive healthcare. Advocating for compliance worth public health recommendations during a pandemic is decidedly NOT contrary to the constitution.

Your attempt to minimize the tragedy and trauma of this pandemic is noted.

You're the one who claimed if my perspective changed.
You must not read very much or are so one sided on the topic that you are unaware of the injuries this and other vaccines have...just check the CDC VAERS.
Its about time claims of "safe and effective" cease from being tossed around like candy at a parade when the science isn't settled. There have not been enough long term studies to know exactly what is happening to people's physiology....short term, we've seen plenty of injuries. Check the VAERS site. A GOOD RN knows to understand both sides.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Sep 17, 2021

24 minutes ago, Auqtu said:

Again proving you are answering when you don't have all the facts. You don't know my position. But a virus that has such a large survival rate, more deaths attributed to it with commorbidities than not, and you are ready to pitch the Constitution, and label all noncompliance...some even calling for their firing! Your shot is your woobie....you got it...now relax. Why in attack mode? I bet those non vaxxed RNs have less sick days than you do.

I don't know how much sick time the non-vaxxed have but when they get covid they use it up and then some compared to the vaxxed from what I've seen co-workers go through. Several of them had no PTO when they caught covid including our secretary that's now been out two months because she can't shake her symptoms. I have enough that if I get covid I'll be okay. You just can't make such presumptions about folks.

About the survival rate, yes it is mercifully low but I get weary of hearing that because it belittles what is going on, that nurses are burning out, that people are getting very sick and needing ventilators, and the cost of the high survival rate is immense.

That said, I agree that the shot is my thing and I'm quite relaxed and don't care or demand anyone else gets the vaccine or not. In fact with so many coworkers out with covid I'm making some good money as they've increased the incentive bonuses to work.

toomuchbaloney · Sep 17, 2021

2 minutes ago, Auqtu said:

You're the one who claimed if my perspective changed.
You must not read very much or are so one sided on the topic that you are unaware of the injuries this and other vaccines have...just check the CDC VAERS.
Its about time claims of "safe and effective" cease from being tossed around like candy at a parade when the science isn't settled. There have not been enough long term studies to know exactly what is happening to people's physiology....short term, we've seen plenty of injuries. Check the VAERS site. A GOOD RN knows to understand both sides.

LOL

Oh gosh...another poor member who thinks that VAERS provides the evidence of the danger that these vaccines represent. Is interesting that you are so concerned about my reading habits when you didn't bother to read or believe the disclaimer published on the VAERS site. A good RN might recognize that the fear of future adverse events from vaccination is the stuff of the covid antivaxx movement that has nothing to do with science.

Please stop spreading fodder for vaccine hesitancy, it's dangerous.

gabrielavenegas85 · Sep 17, 2021

On 9/9/2021 at 1:35 PM, DesiDani said:

I do. It will let the elephant in the room finally be noticed.

Medical reasons or not, why isn't that person removed from their post or at least placed in a noncontact role. That person can infect someone, or easily get infected by many if they work in a hospital. Sorry, but according to many HERE being unvaccinated is not good in a healthcare scenario. NO EXCEPTION! Perhaps short term disability would be best for this one coworker.

Hi I'm a student and very curious about this subject. I don't oppose to vaccines but would love to educated on some of these things. I heard you can still get covid and pass it to other people if vaccinated. That's the same for unvaccinated people. If that's right then unvaccinated people are just risking their own lives?

LoriLu2010 · Sep 17, 2021

That’s true,the vaccine doesn’t prevent infection,it keeps you from getting sick enough to be placed on a vent.There are break through cases, there is 72 hours of incubation before you have symptoms and are most contagious.And 90 days of shedding virus.You’re at higher risk unvaccinated and catching Covid and getting severe disease,based on pre-exhausting health conditions. That’s what I’ve learned so far..But everyone has their own perspective.

FallingInPlace, ADN, BSN, RN · Sep 17, 2021

I'm located in the Southeast. Our organization's deadline was last Wednesday, and there were a lot of grumbling, foot-dragging people who came in for a J&J on the 14th or 15th to be in compliance with the vaccine mandate. The good news is a large majority of employees are now vaccinated. I would be happier if we had a 100% vaccination rate, but have not heard if the administration will actually follow through with terminations for those who did not get a vaccine. We do have a rather large number who were granted religious exemptions, but I am completely unable to understand on what grounds they were given.

allnurses Guide · Sep 17, 2021

22 minutes ago, gabrielavenegas85 said:

Hi I'm a student and very curious about this subject. I don't oppose to vaccines but would love to educated on some of these things. I heard you can still get covid and pass it to other people if vaccinated. That's the same for unvaccinated people. If that's right then unvaccinated people are just risking their own lives?

Yes there are breakthrough infections (covid positive after vaccination), but they make up only a small percentage of covid cases. So, yes you can get covid if you are fully vaccinated, however, you are far less likely to than someone who has no immunity (vaccine or natural). So it is not "the same".

Both sober driver and drunk drivers can have car accidents, but you are more likely to have a car accident if you are drunk.

Check this out:

https://kingcounty.gov/depts/health/covid-19/data/vaccination-outcomes.aspx

LoriLu2010 · Sep 17, 2021

31 minutes ago, FallingInPlace said:

I'm located in the Southeast. Our organization's deadline was last Wednesday, and there were a lot of grumbling, foot-dragging people who came in for a J&J on the 14th or 15th to be in compliance with the vaccine mandate. The good news is a large majority of employees are now vaccinated. I would be happier if we had a 100% vaccination rate, but have not heard if the administration will actually follow through with terminations for those who did not get a vaccine. We do have a rather large number who were granted religious exemptions, but I am completely unable to understand on what grounds they were given.

I feel it’s a ground treaded lightly because OSHA stated that companies are liable for bad reactions…

nursej22, MSN, RN · Sep 17, 2021

38 minutes ago, LoriLu2010 said:

And 90 days of shedding virus.

This is news to me. My understanding is that people are released from isolation after 24 with no fever, symptoms have improved, and it has been 10 days since symptoms appeared. If no symptoms then isolation lasts for 10 days.

Can you link a reference to the 90 days of shedding information?