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And is there anything we can do to prepare ourselves for what is to come??
Best case scenario, there will be a vaccine, however I highly doubt it we will have anything in the next few months.
Is there anything health care facilities can do to prepare? Extra ICU beds/Covid units? Stock up on PPE?
What about non work, stock up on food/water/necessities, and be ready to hunker down?
This doesn't look good to me at all. I am in FL and despite the warm weather the virus is spreading like wildfire. Our hospitals are overwhelmed at the moment. We have Covid units in SNF facilities. I can only imagine when the cold weather hits , and everyone will be inside most of the time, how bad it will get.
What are your thoughts?
On 7/31/2020 at 9:48 PM, NurseBlaq said:Moderna has never had a vaccine go to market. The company is questionable IMO.
On 7/31/2020 at 10:54 PM, NRSKarenRN said:I've heard Michael T. Osterholm, PhD, MPH, Epidemiology expert speak about Covid-19 on several cable shows --- Winter will be very bad especially when HS and college students are back in class + partying. Will start at end September post Labor Day holiday gatherings and ramp up from there.
Here's some of his advice/commentary:
Huffington Post 7/9/20:
‘We’re Back To Square Zero’ On Coronavirus, Warns Infectious Disease Expert
MSN Market Watch 7/31/20
Dr. Osterholm: Americans will be living with the coronavirus for decades
MPR Radio 7/31/20
Michael Osterholm on where we are now with the COVID-19 pandemic
Quoting you both b/c I don't know how to "tag" people on here ha. So tomorrow I'm getting the first of two injections for P's trial followed by four blood tests (over time of course and possibly one in b/t injections). The person I spoke to told me it was possible a trial rep for Moderna called me from the same facility, however that trial has not yet started. I asked the person about known S/E & rxns to the vaccine and was told they are minor and comparable to a flu shot. I've had so many vaccines for school and (so far) very low S/E to each, so I feel comfortable moving forward in this trial. Just wanted to update.
On 8/3/2020 at 1:24 PM, NRSKarenRN said:TY for volunteering for vaccine study...hope all goes well.. Expect a vaccine available by end 2021.
Got the injection today after a two-hour appointment (it's paid, so ndb). I think I got antigen and not saline. The EMT all but told me it was the vaccine.
Will normal saline sting if injected? I imagine it would so I don't know if I can go by that alone. I so far have no tenderness or injection site reaction- its as if I did not get a vaccine at all.
On 8/3/2020 at 10:48 AM, BSNbound21 said:Quoting you both b/c I don't know how to "tag" people on here ha. So tomorrow I'm getting the first of two injections for P's trial followed by four blood tests (over time of course and possibly one in b/t injections). The person I spoke to told me it was possible a trial rep for Moderna called me from the same facility, however that trial has not yet started. I asked the person about known S/E & rxns to the vaccine and was told they are minor and comparable to a flu shot. I've had so many vaccines for school and (so far) very low S/E to each, so I feel comfortable moving forward in this trial. Just wanted to update.
Thanks for the update!
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15 hours ago, BSNbound21 said:Got the injection today after a two-hour appointment (it's paid, so ndb). I think I got antigen and not saline. The EMT all but told me it was the vaccine.
Will normal saline sting if injected? I imagine it would so I don't know if I can go by that alone. I so far have no tenderness or injection site reaction- its as if I did not get a vaccine at all.
I think any intramuscular injection is going to sting or ache a bit.
I get all my vaccinations (like most nurses). My flu shots typically never cause any reaction--not even soreness at the injection site. It is funny about saline. I have taught nursing for years and some students complain a lot about how much it stings, and others say they don't even feel it. I have no idea about why people have such different experiences with the same normal saline injection.
20 hours ago, Ribbons said:I get all my vaccinations (like most nurses). My flu shots typically never cause any reaction--not even soreness at the injection site. It is funny about saline. I have taught nursing for years and some students complain a lot about how much it stings, and others say they don't even feel it. I have no idea about why people have such different experiences with the same normal saline injection.
I would guess sensitivity to the ingredients combined with how tight the muscle tissue is that it gets injected into, possibly how aggressively it is injected. Just musing.
New Zealand has been lucky, we havent seen a huge resurgence in Winter, but then again our borders are fairly much closed.
As long as you have so many people doing their own thing, not social distancing, wearing masks, doing some stuff like intentionally getting exposed to covid19 and without keeping things locked down, the outcome does not seem postive
5 hours ago, Tenebrae said:Well folks, we have our first cases of community transmission in over 100 days.
Auckland is in level 3, the rest of the country is in level 2. Sucks but if it keeps the infection rates down it will be worthy it
I read that yesterday. The family apparently didn't travel anywhere so how did they get it? Also, the twentysomething people in quarantine, did they come back to NZ and were quarantined, or did they already have it and were a leftover of the previous outbreak?
32 minutes ago, NurseBlaq said:I read that yesterday. The family apparently didn't travel anywhere so how did they get it? Also, the twentysomething people in quarantine, did they come back to NZ and were quarantined, or did they already have it and were a leftover of the previous outbreak?
I may sound like a complete nut, but what if the virus survives in athmosphere more than previously thought? This thing is definitely airborne IMO.
I at a loss ?
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This is past the point of containment in most of the country.