Hi there.. I hope someone could enlighten me with this..
I recently passed the NCLEX RN CA and will be taking the IELTS real soon. I'm in the Philippines and I don't have an SSN. Thus, I was informed that they cannot issue me my license. Add to that, they would destroy my file 3 years without their receipt of my SSN.
I don't have any idea on what to do next. How do I get this SSN? Am aware that they cannot issue me SSN since I'm not a US citizen nor have I ways to go there. Should I just find an agency to do all the works for me or should I apply for my visa screen? Cause I was thinking of applying for my visa screen first before I find my agency plus I will be starting work only only next month.
Can someone tell me the process of how to get a visa screen? The steps and who to contact, through the internet perhaps. I really have no idea how to do it.
Another thing is my family's suggesting to transfer my license to another state..Again, how do I go about it? Is my license needed before I can apply for reciprocity..I was thinking maybe NY, Florida or Chicago.
I'm sorry I have too many questions..I hope many could reply to my queries. Thanks in advance
Really? I'm shocked to hear that even nurses that trained there are having problems. I've been hearing conflicting stories about the employment status in the US. On one hand I hear that jobs are difficult to find in all areas and have even heard that hospitals have closed in California. On the other hand, I see that hospitals are still looking for nurses and the health care industry is not as badly affected by the economy.
No, I don't have a valid work visa. I got my SSN# a long time ago because I studied in the US for a while. I do not have a green card or US citizenship and don't really require one. I feel like I'm in the middle of a rock and a hard place because no one wants to hire without experience yet no one wants to hire a new grad so I don't know where I'm going to get the experience. Is there any visa I can work or train under first? That's another thing. Nurses can't be given the normal H-1 visa but they are not issuing the visas for nurses now. Looks like we're just stuck.
There is not one sector in health care that is doing well at this time, nursing is more recession proof than other jobs but it is not exempt. And unless you have a visa that will permit you to work, chances of getting petitioned at this time are going to be very slim as well. Sure, there are jobs posted, but not as many as before and many facilities are having hiring freezes and/or lay-offs. When American new grads are having issues with getting hired, then you know that things are bad. Having a SSN# does not permit one to work, for some reason I had remembered something about you getting one years back but were no longer in the US.
Technically, new grads do not count as specialists since they do not have experience so they should not even be getting the H1-B or even qualifying for it. And once again, the US government is actually going thru and researching each and every one of them. And someone just posted here the other day that they know of a new grad that got one, has not one day of work experience, but they were able to pay the employer $10,000 for the visa. The H1-B actually requires that the employer pay 100% of the costs and not one cent can be collected from the employee. So this is already immigration fraud at its finest and they need to be deported or not even permitted to enter the US.
You could consider another country whilst gaining experience. Is the US your definite country as you may enjoy another. I know I wanted the US but now in Canada and staying here, we love it
The US is going through some tough times as are some other countries UK for one. All you have to do is read the various state forums or the general nursing forum and see threads there on people having problems finding work
Thank you so much for the input. I am actually looking to Australia for work experience now. I am only pushing to go to the US because I am set in everything I need to do except the job offer. I already took the NCLEX and feel like it would be a waste if it is not used especially since it expires in 2 years. A lot of people are actually saying I would enjoy Australia better because of its laid back lifestyle. The process of getting registered and the bridging program is rather confusing for me too. It's a whole other process that I need to go through and I do not know where to begin. Canada is also a nice place and I would like to also go there but I think they really require experience. I'm just stuck now to where I will get this experience from.
There is not one sector in health care that is doing well at this time, nursing is more recession proof than other jobs but it is not exempt. And unless you have a visa that will permit you to work, chances of getting petitioned at this time are going to be very slim as well. Sure, there are jobs posted, but not as many as before and many facilities are having hiring freezes and/or lay-offs. When American new grads are having issues with getting hired, then you know that things are bad. Having a SSN# does not permit one to work, for some reason I had remembered something about you getting one years back but were no longer in the US.
Technically, new grads do not count as specialists since they do not have experience so they should not even be getting the H1-B or even qualifying for it. And once again, the US government is actually going thru and researching each and every one of them. And someone just posted here the other day that they know of a new grad that got one, has not one day of work experience, but they were able to pay the employer $10,000 for the visa. The H1-B actually requires that the employer pay 100% of the costs and not one cent can be collected from the employee. So this is already immigration fraud at its finest and they need to be deported or not even permitted to enter the US.
Things are that bad here.
Oh man. Thanks for the perspective. I did not know employers had to pay 100% of the cost. I actually called about 50 hospitals today to see if they are sponsoring but I think I only got 2 who are and there were many conditions attached. I see that my chances are VERY slim and had I not taken the NCLEX yet and wanting to use it before it expires, I would not be on this crazy job hunt. Is there any way for me to take those Continuing education units online and renew my license even if I have not practiced yet? I need to keep it alive somehow if I don't get a job.
Being able to get a job and be working within the next two years in the US is slim to not even possible, and more importantly in CA as well.
And yes, the continuing education hours can be completed on-line, just look for programs that say approved by the CA BRN. Most of them even if offered in other states will have that listed.
Many of the employers that are trying to bring nurses over under the H1-B visa are failing to tell the nurse this, and there are some very unscrupulous agencies that are charging $10,000 to the nurse and falsifying documentation to the US Federal Government as well. So this puts the nurse at risk of being deported at any time for immigration fraud.
This is very well known fact that the employer must pay 100% of all of the associated costs and actually lists it in State Dept documentation as well.
I am quite sure that a similar case has already been raised in this forum site. There are just so many threads and so many posts here and I don't know where to start. I just need a quick advice.
I am from the Philippines. I applied for licensure by examination to the California Board of Registered Nursing. I took the NCLEX-RN last September 2008. I passed it and now I am being asked by the board to provide them SSN which I do not have at this point and I am not sure when I could get one. I know that my file will be destroyed if I won't be able to give them the SSN within 2 years.
I do not have an employer at this point and with the retrogression and all, I don't know if I can provide the SSN within 2 years. What should I do now? I heard that Vermont does not require an SSN and I could apply to the Vermont board for endorsement and once approved, I could be a issued a license. Is there any truth in this? I just don't want my NCLEX-RN result to go to waste that is why I am taking that option into consideration. What is the best thing for me to do at the moment. Thanks!
CA actually gives you three years to present the SSN#, not two years. The two years that you are speaking about is for someone that went and gave the BRN the ITIN# that does not permit one to work in the US. That means that they were issued a license, but the license expires in two years and they cannot renew it without the SSN# so they have lost an extra year that they had as well.
Endorsement is not what is used since you actually have never had a license issued by any state in the US. Please just check out the website for VT BON and see if you meet their requirements. They actually have put new ones in place for those that have tested for CA and then wish to proceed for licensure thru VT.
Much has already been written on this topic, please just do a search for the specific instructions of what you will need to do. And best of luck to you.
CA actually gives you three years to present the SSN#, not two years. The two years that you are speaking about is for someone that went and gave the BRN the ITIN# that does not permit one to work in the US. That means that they were issued a license, but the license expires in two years and they cannot renew it without the SSN# so they have lost an extra year that they had as well.
Endorsement is not what is used since you actually have never had a license issued by any state in the US. Please just check out the website for VT BON and see if you meet their requirements. They actually have put new ones in place for those that have tested for CA and then wish to proceed for licensure thru VT.
Much has already been written on this topic, please just do a search for the specific instructions of what you will need to do. And best of luck to you.
Hello...
Is VT the only state issuing licenses without SSN? I hope you still reply on my query. thanks.
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Hello...
Is VT the only state issuing licenses without SSN? I hope you still reply on my query. thanks.
There are a few others but off the top of my head I can't think who they are. However that shouldn't be the reason for choosing the state. Apart from Ca if the state will not issue a license without a SSN they will not destroy your file and that is the most important thing. If your file is destroyed then you loose your NCLEX results. Not having a license means nothing until you are in the US and can provide a SSN then you can work. States can change their requirements when they want which is what a few did last year like Arizona
VT actually has additional requirements in place of one is wishing to get a license thru them and they originally went thru CA; specifics are listed on their website.
States are changing their requirements all of the time now and the majority are going towards not issuing a license until one has the SSN#.
And you really do not need the license until then, or you are just paying for the renewal fees. As long as the state does not discard the file after a certain number of years, then there should be any worry.
So just do not look at VT if you are not going to work there. You will not be saving anything by going thru them at all.
Just to add in, each state can set their own requirements. The others all require at least the CES before they will look at your application; such as NM.
Hi everyone. I am new here. I have the same problem as above. I am a CA NCLEX-RN passer but would like to have a license in Oregon. Could someone pls help me on how to apply to OSBON, I've already read there application requirements but I'm a little bit confuse wether to apply by examination or endorsement. Pls. Help. Thanks everyone.
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Meant to add, H1b is a specialist visa and many nurses especially new grads do not meet criteria