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There's a petition on a website to have nurse Kaci Hickox's license revoked for refusing quarantine after working directly with Ebola patients in West africa.

You don't have it now, chances are you will get the flu before getting Ebola.

It is flu season after all... :blink:

And flu is easily spread and contracted, UNLIKE THE EBOLA VIRUS. :)

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Well I had the flu already, H1N1 to be exact. :confused:. Hurt like the dickens too, but not bad enough for me to get vaccinated in the future lol. It should be apparent by now that I have trust issues as it relates to healthcare practices :sniff:.

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OMG WHAT if this and what if that and what if the other thing too...

You are free to be fearful inspite of the good, sound, and scientific reason not to be. Thank you for ignoring the plethora of opinions which could and should help to calm the hysteria and choosing, instead, a fearful stance which will allow you to further the alarm and panic of the poorly informed lay public from the position of health "professional". SMH

Why would this poster need to be told what to think? Clearly this person can think for themself.

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Didn't I just say transmission was debatable because of lack of research? Or did you choose to IGNORE that?

Ebola and Quarantine

Jeffrey M. Drazen, M.D., Rupa Kanapathipillai, M.B., B.S., M.P.H., D.T.M.&H., Edward W. Campion, M.D., Eric J. Rubin, M.D., Ph.D., Scott M. Hammer, M.D., Stephen Morrissey, Ph.D., and Lindsey R. Baden, M.D.

October 27, 2014

... Health care professionals treating patients with this illness have learned that transmission arises from contact with bodily fluids of a person who is symptomatic-that is, has a fever, vomiting, diarrhea, and malaise. We have very strong reason to believe that transmission occurs when the viral load in bodily fluids is high, on the order of millions of virions per microliter.

This recognition has led to the dictum that an asymptomatic person is not contagious; field experience in West Africa has shown that conclusion to be valid.

Therefore, an asymptomatic health care worker returning from treating patients with Ebola, even if he or she were infected, would not be contagious.

Furthermore, we now know that fever precedes the contagious stage, allowing workers who are unknowingly infected to identify themselves before they become a threat to their community.

This understanding is based on more than clinical observation: the sensitive blood polymerase-chain-reaction (PCR) test for Ebola is often negative on the day when fever or other symptoms begin and only becomes reliably positive 2 to 3 days after symptom onset...

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe1413139

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Why would this poster need to be told what to think? Clearly this person can think for themself.

Which is exactly why I said that they were free to be fearful inspite of the good, sound, and scientific reason not to be. One might argue, however, that basing your professional nursing stance upon fear and emotion rather than science based evidence is not exactly the sort of "thinking" that is helpful in matters of public health.

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Which is exactly why I said that they were free to be fearful inspite of the good, sound, and scientific reason not to be. One might argue, however, that basing your professional nursing stance upon fear and emotion rather than science based evidence is not exactly the sort of "thinking" that is helpful in matters of public health.

Did you read the links the poster provided? What scientific links did you provide?

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The accusations (by a sensationalist online tabloid publication) against the New York doctor, turned out to be untrue. Dr. Spencer didn't lie.

WHAT?? You mean we can't believe everything we read or see on TV? OMG, what am I going to do? That just blew all my scientific sources out of the water. Crap.

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Did you read the links the poster provided? What scientific links did you provide?

What exactly are you looking for?

I did provide a few links.

Have you researched this yourself? What does the WHO say about quarantine, or the CDC, or the NIH, or any other credible medical or scientific group who has published a position? What assurances are you requiring which have not been provided in the preponderance of the scientific literature on the subject?

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Show me proof. I'm doing my part by providing links from reputable journals. Where is your proof? Call me what you want, or insinuate what you want. It really doesn't make me poop...not like Ebola anyway.

Here's another study about uncertainty of how ebola is transmitted:

Transmission of Ebola virus from pigs to non-human primates : Scientific Reports : Nature Publishing Group

And this has been discussed ad nauseam in the early discussions re Ebola. Just do a search.

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Well I had the flu already, H1N1 to be exact. :confused:. Hurt like the dickens too, but not bad enough for me to get vaccinated in the future lol. It should be apparent by now that I have trust issues as it relates to healthcare practices :sniff:.

OMG . . . are you SERIOUS??? You think your getting the flu vaccination is just to protect YOU?? Were you put under mandatory quarantine when you had H1N1? If not, you have absolutely NO ground for mandating that this RN be quarantined much less recommending that she lose her license.

I've been trying my hardest to give you credence but I'm done. Not that it, or anything, matters to you . . . you'll just go on about your own ignorant way.

BTW, one is not put into isolation after receiving suspect CXR until they can get the PPD. I'm really beginning to question your professional status here, especially with your trust issues in healthcare practices. I starting to think you are just "toying" with us. Well, I, for one, am done playing. The rest of you can keep poking this poster.

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Judge rejects Ebola quarantine for Maine nurse

A Maine judge has rejected a request by state officials to quarantine and restrict the movements of nurse Kaci Hickox, who after returning from treating Ebola patients in West Africa defied the state's quarantine.

Judge Charles LaVerdiere initially put out a temporary order imposing some restrictions on Hickox.

But on Friday, he issued a new order saying she should only continue daily monitoring and coordinate travel with state officials. But, because she's not showing symptoms, the judge said she's not infectious -- and would not approve the limits on her movements sought by Maine health officials.

"The State has not met its burden at this time to prove by clear and convincing evidence that limiting [Hickox's] movements to the degree requested" is necessary, the judge wrote. He did order the nurse to immediately notify health officials if any symptoms appear...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/31/maine-judge-orders-ebola-nurse-to-stay-away-from-public-gatherings-maintain-3/

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There is no need to be rude. The only ignorance on here is coming from your computer (or phone), whichever. I'm all for having a friendly debate, but I won't sit here and emotionally argue with an adult on the internet. Question your own professional practice because I'm very content with mine. Good day

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