Why are Newbies Such Whiners? - page 2

catchy title, eh? right up there with "why are nurses such backstabbers" (assuming that all nurses are backstabbers) and "nurses eat their young" and "why are nurses so mean?" i don't know about... Read More

  1. by   caliotter3
    When I was recently hospitalized you should have heard the audible comments made by the nurses on the floor (an oncology floor no less, in a hosp w/religious affiliation). And these nurses were being mild. I was too sick and did not want to antagonize the nurses any more than I already did just by being there, otherwise I might have called to them from the door to my room and told them that every word of their conversations could be heard by all of us "impositions". And these people were not in newbie, preceptor mode either. The only people employed there who acted like healthcare workers that give a r**** a** were, the nursing assts! Say what you want to say, vent all you want, gossip, blah, blah, blah but please don't do it in the presence of, or in earshot of the patients. None of us deserve this invasion of our privacy. I couldn't crawl out of that place fast enough!
  2. by   maryloufu
    Ummm... newbie- or semi-newbie here. From my view- those nurses who supposedly eat the young also eat their peers. Some people just suck and there is no getting around that.
    And to counteract those newbies who whine I would like to say that today- on my first dayshift( I did about 4 months of nights) at the end of the day I was talking to a seasoned nurse about my husband staying at home with the kids. I told her "Well he worked the whole time I was in school so he deserves to have me work while he goes to school" She said (at the END of the shift)"Oh- you are a new nurse?" HOORAY! it was not painfully obvious that I am a newbie! And it was not an easy Sunday shift- each of my patients had at least a page of new orders each and I made it! WOO HOO!
  3. by   pink2blue1
    You know, this kind of thing happens in all kinds of jobs, not just nursing. People pick on people, complain about people etc. In nursing it's especially important to be on your toes because peoples lives are in our hands.

    I myself am what you call a "Newbie" I like to call myself a new nurse. I transitioned from CNA to LVN on the same floor at the same hospital where I have worked for 4+ years. I happen to have a great preceptor and have not seen any of what would be considered "eating our young" I know it must be hard for a nurse to precept with one new nurse for 8 weeks. I try to be cautious with my preceptor. I use my brain, I double check with her if I have a question about anything I make sure to check with her before making a mistake.

    Being that I work in a teaching hospital, I have heard some nurses make comments about the students, new nurses "seasoned" nurses. But I was shocked when I was in general nursing orientation when I heard the nursing educator say that one nurse said "My job is not done until I make a new grad cry" That scared me!

    So far my experience has been great.

    BUt even though I am a new grad, I too am tired of hearing complaints like this. from both ends.
  4. by   Batman24
    It's a shame that people see the need to make generalizations like the one in this title AND in the thread the OP used as a reference. Too bad people don't judge according to the individual versus a broad spectrum and stereotype in all professions.
  5. by   allantiques4me
    Quote from pagandeva2000
    I guess there are bad apples from both ends of the spectrum. The nurse that wished to administer hypertensives when your pressure was low was just plain stupid. I can agree with that. I have seen 'newbies' walk in with their textbook knowledge and try and rudely correct incumbant nurses. One in particular actually documented on the MAR that meds were administered late by previous nurses, meds were administered when the parameters were not correct, and jumping in to perform procedures without knowledge without the knowledge or premission of the perceptor. I am a new LPN and have witnessed nurse bashing to newbies, but, I can also say that at times, the new grad was, in fact, wrong, for silly reasons.

    What we need to know is that respect goes both ways, and even with the negative people, there is information you can walk away with.
    Hon,((Do you mean antihypertensives??))And as long as Ive been in the medical field,Ive always found that those who think they know it all,are the first ones to make mistakes!!
  6. by   chenoaspirit
    I agree that there are bad apples from both sides of the tree. When I was in my last semester in school and was pulling my 120 hours precepting, I had an AWESOME preceptor. She was so supportive and encouraging. But when I graduated and was a newbie on the job, the preceptor I had sucked. She abandoned me to go smoke when our patient was having a blood transfusion reaction. I was terrified because I didnt know what to do. Now that Ive gained some experience under my belt, Im apparently expected to know everything and get thoroughly chastised if something new comes up and I ask a question. I try my best to be as encouraging and supportive I can be to newbies because I remember what it felt like. Granted, there are some newbies who think their textbook knowledge outweighs any experiencial knowledge. Some who do things without knowing how to do because they dont WANT to ask questions, or who know it all already. But I truely think the majority of them are scared and nervous. But to give an anti-hypertensive with a BP as low as yours was amazes me. That actually SCARES me because she should have had enough knowledge to know better. Some dont take construcive critisism as advice, thinking they are being "attacked" or thought of as "dumb". Ive also seen some nurses with 20 years experience who know even less than a new graduate. So, I guess it goes both ways.
  7. by   smk1
    What shocks me is the rudeness. Whether you are a "newbie", or an "oldie", remember the manners your mother taught you. As a student I cringe when I see students using the computers/charts etc... unaware of the nurses and doctors wating for them, I also cringe when no one gets up to give a staff member a chair when we are listening to report. I stand at the back of the room and listen. If there are enough seats to go around, then I'll sit, if not then the visitor (read students) should graciously give up their seats. Now on the other hand, there have been some nurses who will have a heart attack if you set foot in the nurses station even when it is just about empty. Some will bite your head off for using a chart, getting meds etc... I don't think it is about your "status". I think the rude "newbies" are the ones who turn out to be the "mean" nurses later on.
  8. by   bethin
    I've been an aide for 6 years and believe me, I have been chewed out and spit out again over not changing trash can liners, not cleaning dirty utility, etc when we had 2 codes in one day and I was the only aide.

    But I just smile because I know that "nurses who eat their young" won't apply to me. I have developed skin 3 inches thick. Think they can knaw through that?

    If you're wrong, you need to step up and say you were wrong. Don't get defensive, it won't work against a seasoned nurse.

    BTW, wouldn't you learn in clinicals not to give antihypertensive meds to a pt who is hypotensive? I certainly don't expect newbies to know everything,(I know I won't) but I thought giving antihypertensive meds were common.
  9. by   lovingtheunloved
    Some people have just made a hobby out of being offended. Their feelings are ALWAYS hurt by SOMETHING, no matter what. They can't handle correction, direction, or anything other than constant ego stroking. I've worked with some nurses from hell, but the vast majority of them are fantastic. And any nurse who has something to teach me that will keep me from screwing up and hurting a patient is my new friend.
  10. by   angel337
    well said ruby. the problem that i see is that people go into nursing for the wrong reasons. floor/hospital nursing is not a glamorous 9-5 job. you need to use your mind and get your hands dirty at the same time.
  11. by   CritterLover
    Quote from batman24
    it's a shame that people see the need to make generalizations like the one in this title and in the thread the op used as a reference. too bad people don't judge according to the individual versus a broad spectrum and stereotype in all professions.

    i think ruby meant for the title of this thread to be a little tongue-in-cheek

    at least, that is the way i took it.
  12. by   Rudegal2020
    You know what Ruby Vee with the scenario you described with that new nurse wanting to give you bp meds when BP was 82/50, and HCTZ when u were dehydrated from vomiting, NPO, and my IV rate was only 50cc/hour is a matter of being sooo task oriented, being sooo focused on getting things done rather than thinking things through or using critcal thinking. Then also what the heck is up ith not being able to take constructive critism(sp?).What the heck is crying gonna solve?! Suck it up and keep it moving. I know nursing is very stressful but still. I am a new nurse (1yr), but a thing such holding bp meds when sbp<100 and dbp<60 is nursing 101. She just wasnt thinking!
  13. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from allantiques4me
    Hon,((Do you mean antihypertensives??))And as long as Ive been in the medical field,Ive always found that those who think they know it all,are the first ones to make mistakes!!
    An error in wording, yes it was. I have not been a person that claimed to know it all... (and this typo is proof of that). I am the first to say "I don't know" rather than risk someone's safety.
    Last edit by pagandeva2000 on Jan 8, '07