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pink2blue1 specializes in Med-Surg.

I'm Shannon, 43 yo mom of 3.

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  1. I just wanted to say one more thing....Just because a person has RN behind their name, vs. LVN/LPN, it doesn't mean that they are automatically a "better" or more competent nurse. I have worked with plenty of RN's who could make your head spin! Most recently an RN got terminated for charting she did a dressing change when infact she didn't. For 3 days in a row! Just saying, beyond the degree we hold, we are all nurses. Yes, the RN has more education than the LVN. I do have an associates degree, it just doesn't happen to be an ADN. So to hear comments like when the **** hits the fan it's the RN's ass hanging kind of bother me. I am accountable for my own actions, and do not expect anyone else to be accountable for me. As we all should be.
  2. Yeah, What state are you in? I am in California and I CAN do IV's, BUT I had to pay for and go to a class to become IV therapy and BLood withdrawal certified.
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    LPN starting pay $26.50!

    I've been an LVN in California for 3.5 years and that is EXACTLY what I make NOW. I started at 18.50.
  4. I also think things differ by state. I am in California (I am an LVN) and I can take a physicians order and I can note my own orders and do my own chart checks. I am also held accountable for my own actions. Yes, the RN covers my IV pushes and IV piggy backs. But I am given my own assignment of 5 patients. (I work in acute care) I cannot hang ANY antibiotics IV, no meds. Just maintenance IV's. I cannot do anything with central lines or PICC's other than change the PICC dressing. I CAN hange blood, but again I am in California and I am IV therapy and blood withdrawal certified. and I NEVER complain to the RN';s about doing the brunt of the work. We all work equally hard. I help out when needed, just as they help me. We work as a team. Truthfully, we do. Maybe it is because the Charge tends to cover me? I make a list of my piggy backs and pushes. As for the S**T hitting the fan, when things go wrong in my hospital, it's the one person who is in charge of the patients care who gets it, and if that happens to be me, the LVN, the RN does not get in trouble. I can say this with confidence because I was recently written up for something, and the RN covering me did not get put on the incident report! One was that I gave a pt with a blood sugar of 68, apple juice (her request) and she was fine. But per the MD he wanted her to have an amp of D50. When I told the charge RN (supposedly the RN covering me) that the pt was 68 she said "did you give juice" told her I was giving some now. Later in report I noticed the MD order for D50 under 80. Well by then the patient was fine. I tokld Charge RN that I should have given D50 (Which I cannot give because its IV push) and she said "Well too late now" But I got written up for violating the hospital's emergency hypoglycemic protocol. Second write up was the day I came back to work after a 4 month medical leave of absence. I was ON orientation working directly under an RN. I acknowledged a medication wrong (Pharmacy had input it wrong) Initially I was told I only acknowledged the order, later in my write up I was told I had given it. According to the Union, I can't be written up for something while orienting under the RN. The RN never got talked to about this either. That being said, I don[t want the RN to get talked to, It was my mistake. Not hers. So again, different facilities, different policies. Being an LVN is not so bad ;-) But I am working on my RN :-)
  5. I am an LVN in California/ I work in Acute care on a surgical floor. I work independently with my own group of 5 patients, but the Charge Nurse, who is an RN always, covers me for the IV stuff I cannot do. In California I can hang blood transfusions and blood products. I CANNOT do and Initial assessment, I cannot hang IV meds, I cannot do IV pushes. I AM allowed to flush a peripheral IV site with saline, but nothing else. I am IV therapy and Blood withdrawal certified, something we do in California. So I can withdrawal blood, start and maintain IV sites and hang maintenance bags of fluid and eletrolytes. I cannot hang medications such as antibiotics etc. Anything piggy back the RN does for me. If I had it to do over, I might have gone straight to RN, however this is the route that worked best for me at the time. I was a CNA for 4 years and then graduated and passed my LVN boards. I am currently in a BSN bridge program working on my RN. I am told that a BSN does NOT make anymore pay than an ADN at my facility. I AM allowed to note my own orders, co-sign boluses and syringe changes on PCA's. Also within our scope, hospital policy and procedure can dictate what the LVN can do as well. FOr instance according to my scope and since I am IV certififed, the state of california says I can hang potassium up to 40meq, but our hospital policy says I cannot administer potassium protocol. All in all, I love being a nurse, but I am going for my RN. It will just be easier, and more pay. Right now as an LVN I am making 26.50. As an RN it will be a jump.
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    Is It Bad To Ask For Help When Caring For a Heavy Patient?

    There is NOTHING wrong with asking for help when it comes to moving, rolling, transfering heavy patients. Its a matter of safety for you and for them. If you try to move someone who is too hard for you to do alone, you could end up with a back injury. Its too bad your instructor doesn't see it this way.
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    LVN before RN? Should I? Help!

    I am an LVN in California and I do work in Acute care, however when I graduated (3 years ago) There were not very many hospitals hiring LVN's (Mine included, but I was a CNA and transitioned to LVN) I truly feel that if I had not already been working at the hospital, I would not have gotten hired there. Yes there is always LTC or MD offices etc. But I wanted acute care. I have been on the same floor for 3 years and love it. I am working on my RN right now through a distance learning program. There are times that I wish I had gone straight for my RN, but I am SO glad I did this when I did, or I still would not be graduated from the RN program by now. At least I have been working and gaining experience. I do get frustrated from time to time. It is hard for me to take direct admits, or ER patients for admission because the Charge Nurse has to do my admission assessment, since LVN's cannot do an initial assessment. I can also no longer take patients from surgery who have had dura-morph or have continuous epidurals. I cannot do IV push meds, or hang IV piggy backs and I work on a post surgical floor where 95% of all pain meds are either IV push or PCA and most post ops have IV antibiotics running. So I do feel at times that I am a strain on the charge or other RN's who have to hang my IV antibiotics or push my IV pain/anti nausea meds. Would I do it differently if I had it to do again? No WAy! I love my job. It's all a matter of personal preference and needs at the time. I am glad I did it, I just can't get my RN fast enough!
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    Nurse-to-CNA ratio

    I'm not an RN, I am an LVN but on our floor, they base the number of CNA's we get on the number of patients we have on the floor. They call it the staffing matrix, which none of us have ever seen, For instance we aren't supposed to even get one CNA until we hit 18 patients. The CNA takes 10-12 patients and does baths, vitals and helps answer lights. Our CNA's only work 8 hour shifts. We have 30 beds on our unit and at the very most, we only have 2 CNA's. Ever. Period. End of story. The Nurse to patient ratio on my floor is 5:1. So the CNA could very well be working with 2-3 nurses and more if she's the only CNA on the floor. We have been fighting very hard to get our CNA's back to 12's AND to get one on nights. the night shift have NO CNA's at all. All the CNA's at our hospital work 7am-3pm. It kind of really sucks. I work on a busy Surgical floor. But all the Med-Surg units are staffed this way. The Tele nurses are 4:1 but the CNA's are staffed the same as Med-Surg. In DOU I believe they get 1 CNA and they have 12 beds, and oncology is the same. Oncology and DOU are 3:1, but if someone is getting Chemo, I believe they go to 2:1. I think. Not sure if our ICU/CCU even get CNA's but I don't think they do. Back when I was a new CNA, 7 years ago, we worked in pairs with a Nurse. There would be 1 nurse and 1 CNA with 6-8 patients. We would have 3 CNA's and we had CNA's all night long, so there was 24 hour coverage by CNA's and licensed nurses.
  9. I graduated from Nursing School at 39, and I am now 42 and pursuing my BSN. I had known I wanted to be a nurse in my 30's, but never had the guts or time to go back to school. I was the mom of 2 and my husband owned a business. I decided to go back to school and take my CNA courses and work as a CNA while finishing pre-reqs for the ADN program. When I was 2 courses away and in my A&P class I ended up getting pregnant and losing the baby and my grandmother passed also. I ended up getting pregnant again with my now 5 1/2 year old son, but I was on bed rest for most of my pregnancy and never ever went back to take my final exam (I had one academic year and never was able to return) It was then that my husband sold his business, and I was really wanting to finish my nursing program. The RN would take a long time, because now I had to take 3 more pre-reqs and each was a pre-req to the next, so it literally would have taken me 3 semesters, or 1.5 years to complete them. So.....I looked into LVN. I applied to a program before my son even turned 1. I started the program when he was just 16 months old and I graduated 16 months later. I have no been working as an LVN for 2.5 years and am pursuing my BSN through a distance learning program. RN is still my goal, and I will get there! I don't feel it's too late to start. If I did it with a husband out of work, 3 kids and working part time on the weekends as a CNA, you can. As for dealing with all the stuff it's really not that bad. I work on a busy Surgical floor. Sure people are nauseated and vomit from time to time, or I have to do bed pans and diapers, but literally, it's not that bad at all. All that stuff is nothing compared to the good feeling you get from helping someone out. I just love what I do!
  10. o the family members/friends of patients who walk out of the patients room and up to the nurses station because they need something : PLEASE use the phone to call me, that is why I put my portable number up on the white board in your room. Ugh. They are classic for saying Oh I didn't want to bother you. DUH! CALL ME it's my job to be bothered for an IV pump that has been beeping for 45 minutes and you have sat there and pushed the silent button for 45 minutes before deciding I should be bothered? Now the site is bad and I have to stick you again....DONT TOUCH THE PUMPS! Oh I could go on and on....our hospital has private rooms and allows family to stay over night.
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    LVN's/LPN's How does coverage work on your floors???

    I have heard in California that we are governed by the board of Register Nursing. I did have to get an IV certification in order to even work as an LVN in my hospital. I would have gotten it anyways. All of the other charge nurses on my unit are fine with covering me. There are certain RN's who will not even be charge because they don't want to cover the LVN. There are only 2 LVN's on our unit. I am always willing to hlep out anyone. Especially since the charge is doing my piggy backs and pushes. I will help with PO meds, IV sticks etc if the charge cannot because she is doing something for my patients. I am working on my BSN but it most obviously is not happening fast enough! LOL!
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    LVN's/LPN's How does coverage work on your floors???

    LOL!! I considered doing this, but I really really need my paycheck. I am afraid she would have said yes LOL!
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    LVN's/LPN's How does coverage work on your floors???

    No, I know what my scope is and what can be assigned to me. But this charge nurse really had a problem covering me> I mean she had an attitude. USed the F word with me because one of my patients needed IV dilaudid twice the whole 12 hour shift. Said she hated being charge. Asked me when I was going to get my RN ( am currently working on it and it's really none of her business) She was just horrible. All the other charges I work with have no problems covering me. I also do not ask for any help from the RN's or the charge, other than my pushes. Anything that is IN my scope, I do independently. If I am asking for hlep it's because I can't get an IV start (I am IV certified) etc. Something that I turly need help with. So I was curious how other hospitals cover their LVN's
  14. I am an LVN in California, busy surgical floor. Been there for 7 years total (4 as a CNA, 3 as an LVN) The charge nurse covers me for my piggy backs and pushes. They tends not to give me Direct admits or ER admits because the admission assessments need to be done and I cannot do them. Just curious, because this past weekend I had a charge nurse who I have only worked with once before, and she was a real jerk about the whole thing!
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    Shorting us of our NAs---WHY??

    They are doing the same thing at our hospital. I work on a busy surgical floor. We have 90 beds. Back a few years ago, we would have 3 CNA's to cover our floor. They would do the vitals for us, do baths help take them to the bathroom, help with I&O's etc. Then about 5 years ago, they took away ALL night shift CNA's. So the night shift has had to do without them. After a bit of complaining, they decided to do a 9a-9p shift with the CNA's and an 11a-11p shift so at least the night shift would have SOME coverage. Then our most recent change.....as of last December, the CNA's now only work 8 hours, so from 7a-3p. Some days we get only ONE CNA to help us. Also the nursing administration speaks of some staffing matrix. But it seems this matrix exists only when they feel its necessary. For instance, last weekend we had 15 patients on our floor, so they decided we didn't need a CNA. But the 3 nurses that were working, had 5 patients each. So we still had our full load. We did have a charge. Our secretary doesn't come in until 9a on the weekends. Our CNA's also do NOT do vitals for us. They are only to do baths. That's it. They are putting more and more responsibility on the nurses and all fo this is the middle of adding a new computer charting module which is taking us a while to get used to. Everything is now computer charted. Vitals, blood sugars, frequent vitals, I & O. So once the CNA's leave at 3p we are on our own to finish our shift, chart checks, I&O, take people to the bathroom, medicate etc. But there are nurses that are getting overtime. We get yelled at for overtime. We scream back that we need our support staff. No one listens. It's a battle we are losing and the patients are suffering for it.
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    OB nurse and childcare - help!

    I have 3 kids and thought about going to night shift, but I could never do it full time. Have worked one here and there but it did me in. My kids are 5, 10 and 12 and luckily my parents and my husbands dad are close so that is who we depend on for childcare. Next year when the kids start school I will have all 3 in school, and will possibly look into the school districts after school care or at least the kindergarten enrichment program for my son. My husband works in retail and often works 7-8 shifts in a row, but he works 6-3. It's worked for us for a year now (prior he was out of work so he was Mr. Mom LOL!) Hopefully someone else has some advice for you too!
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