RN bashing

Tweety, BSN, RN · Jun 12, 2004

When I joined here, I actually thought it was a place for nurses to communicate with other nurses by sharing things about their work, asking each other's opinions on things, etc.

It is that kind of place. Don't let the relative few vents about RNs cloud the fact that the overwhelming majority of posts are exactly what you stated above.

It's unfortunate that people generalize, one RN can ruin a CNA's day and they generalize "why are RNs like..............". The flipside is true RNs say "why are CNAs and LPNs like...............".

I try to keep things in perspective.

Enjoy the board. Take what you need and leave the rest. :)

susanna · Jun 12, 2004

Personally, i think i kind of learned some things about bashing from this place. mostly, that, in nursing and medcine, no matter how old or mature u get, no matter how good you are or how well-intentionned you are, youre always going to have people at work who want to scapegoat you/bash you. I think that even the people you most admire bash and take their frustration out on other people. You are always under the microscope.

The part about openly sharing information and working together with open and fully cooperative and understanding hearts, I beleive, is the "cream", the "as good as it gets" when it comes to employee relations in nursing.

Brief, I'm learning not to expect or demand it or be the only one fighting for this kind of ambiance all alone, but to let it come around when it comes around. Nursing is a WAR ZONE! No?

nursedawn67, LPN · Jun 12, 2004

What I keep seeing more and more of is a CNA or LPN complaining about how registered nurses are so bad in how they treat them. True, there are some registered nurses who may have a thing against them. But, most seem to appreciate all the help they receive from them and those who come here are constantly trying to tell them that.

The problem I see starts from the general public believing the only worthy nursing position is an RN or higher. Even the professional nursing magazines seem to recognize RN's much more then LPN's.

But in my opinion there is no such thing as "just a CNA" or "just an LPN". And maybe those that feel that RN's are rude, deserved the treatment they got.

I think all positions of nursing are just as important as the other. No one position deserves any special treatment more then the other.

FNP2B · Jun 12, 2004

testing.......

"patience is a virtue, yes, and good things come to those who wait, but only things left behind by those who hustle"

prmenrs, RN · Jun 12, 2004

Wise words, Tweety. Thank you.

SCRN1 · Jun 13, 2004

I apologize if I rubbed anyone the wrong way with this post this morning. That was not my intention. I guess I'm a little extra sensitive right now. A very good friend passed away. The visitation was tonight & funeral is tomorrow. When I got online this morning, the first thing I saw was a fairly new post about a CNA venting about how they feel they are treated by RNs & MDs. Things said in there, along with some things I've seen on about 2 other threads finally just hit me wrong and in my emotional state right now, I guess I was venting about the way some of the comments I've read in these 3 threads have appeared to me. I have gotten a PM & heard from others telling me thank you for starting this post because they felt the same way.

My main point I want to make, is that when someone has a problem with the way someone in the medical field (or anywhere, for that matter) treats them, please be cautious that unless more specific, it could be taken that you mean EVERYONE in that particular area. Sorry for the run-on sentence and if none of this makes any sense. I'm very tired right now. So, I'll shut up for now.

Lemonhead · Jun 13, 2004

And hence the reason that nursing is notoriously known as the profession that eats their young...

SarahCeleste · Jun 13, 2004

I may get in some hot water for this, but I'm not known for my meek demeanor. I am an LVN and I appreciate and respect RNs. In fact, I'll be one someday, so what's the point in bashing? I think a lot of this "RN bashing" is the fact that as an LVN, we do ALMOST (*note: I did say almost) as much as an RN, have a lot of the same knowledge bases...but get paid A LOT less. This, of course, causes a lot of frustration and those of us who are not advantaged enough to go straight RN or BSN and work our way up from CNA to LVN to RN and so on do get a little off center at our lesser pay and respect. I, for one, cannot afford to continue my education at present and it is frustrating and I would like to be an RN today, but will achieve that when I can. I almost want to use the word 'jealous' of the pay scale, but I don't think that would be prudent. :chuckle You get what I'm saying. Anyway, don't want to cause a backlash of hateful comments, that's just my take on the situation.

P.S. I continually get asked "Oh, you're a nurse? What, RN or are you JUST an LVN?" Makes me wanna scream!

FROGGYLEGS, LPN · Jun 13, 2004

I seemed to have missed the LPN vs. RN bashing threads as well. I'm sure they are out there; I know I've read my fair share in the past. I'm also sure that the threads aren't going to stop any time soon.

FNP2B · Jun 13, 2004

I may get in some hot water for this, but I'm not known for my meek demeanor. I am an LVN and I appreciate and respect RNs. In fact, I'll be one someday, so what's the point in bashing? I think a lot of this "RN bashing" is the fact that as an LVN, we do ALMOST (*note: I did say almost) as much as an RN, have a lot of the same knowledge bases...but get paid A LOT less. This, of course, causes a lot of frustration and those of us who are not advantaged enough to go straight RN or BSN and work our way up from CNA to LVN to RN and so on do get a little off center at our lesser pay and respect. I, for one, cannot afford to continue my education at present and it is frustrating and I would like to be an RN today, but will achieve that when I can. I almost want to use the word 'jealous' of the pay scale, but I don't think that would be prudent. :chuckle You get what I'm saying. Anyway, don't want to cause a backlash of hateful comments, that's just my take on the situation.
P.S. I continually get asked "Oh, you're a nurse? What, RN or are you JUST an LVN?" Makes me wanna scream!

I have to respond to this post:stone .....every position that a hospitial employs is vital. but think with me LVN=...maybe...1 1/2 yrs of school (with preqs) where as RN, BSN=4 yrs of school (with preqs) so you do the math...work harder, learn more= more $$$

hogan4736, BSN, RN · Jun 13, 2004

Couldn't have said it any better except to add:
I think most of what goes on here is venting. I don't think anyone means to bash anyone else. I never really see this done by the regulars.

oh really? click:

https://allnurses.com/forums/showpost.php?p=797411&postcount=61

it happens sometimes

we are all, after all only human

:stone

SCRN1 · Jun 13, 2004

I may get in some hot water for this, but I'm not known for my meek demeanor. I am an LVN and I appreciate and respect RNs. In fact, I'll be one someday, so what's the point in bashing? I think a lot of this "RN bashing" is the fact that as an LVN, we do ALMOST (*note: I did say almost) as much as an RN, have a lot of the same knowledge bases...but get paid A LOT less. This, of course, causes a lot of frustration and those of us who are not advantaged enough to go straight RN or BSN and work our way up from CNA to LVN to RN and so on do get a little off center at our lesser pay and respect. I, for one, cannot afford to continue my education at present and it is frustrating and I would like to be an RN today, but will achieve that when I can. I almost want to use the word 'jealous' of the pay scale, but I don't think that would be prudent. :chuckle You get what I'm saying. Anyway, don't want to cause a backlash of hateful comments, that's just my take on the situation.
P.S. I continually get asked "Oh, you're a nurse? What, RN or are you JUST an LVN?" Makes me wanna scream!

I understand what you are saying. Great big hugs to you. I hope that you will be able to go as far in life as your dreams may take you. You sound like you are a great nurse.

For the record, I feel like everyone...no matter what their position...is very important and we all need each other.