RN bashing

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I don't know about the rest of you RNs, but I'm sick of seeing all the posts where we are being bashed by those who aren't one. When I joined here, I actually thought it was a place for nurses to communicate with other nurses by sharing things about their work, asking each other's opinions on things, etc.

What I keep seeing more and more of is a CNA or LPN complaining about how registered nurses are so bad in how they treat them. True, there are some registered nurses who may have a thing against them. But, most seem to appreciate all the help they receive from them and those who come here are constantly trying to tell them that.

Why can't we all just get along and do our jobs in which we were hired?

CNA's vs RN's is probably as old as the professions themselves. It can be frustrating for both. As a nurse, why am I bathing this patient when the CNA is supposed to, I have to finish my assessment, meds, and teaching. As a previous NA, why am I bathing this patient when the RN is sitting chatting at the nurses station. Hopefully my experience has left me with some understanding for both jobs. I try to help out as much as possible, and explain why when I can't. It seems to help.

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Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

What some nurses don't realize is that if you're ONE CNA assigned to 24 pts. on DAY shift (meaning baths, etc.), you're not a superwoman either, yet you're going to hear "well this is your job". That sucks, i dealt with that crap too much and i'm sure it's not over yet.

What some NAs don't realize is that when a nurse is sitting down, he/she might be charting, entering assessments, etc. Although i worked with one that was on the phone to her house so much that i thought she might need a surgical procedure to help her get away from it.

Point being, it goes both ways everywhere.

But i'll remember as a nurse where i came from and that help (to the hard worker) is always appreciated.

(And ***** the ones that make the who's-better debate a focus point in their life. There's more important things than that.)

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good point LPN2B......but lest we forget old mother nature.....the lower you are on the food chain the more crap you have to put up with. If a zebra is tired of been hounded by lions. that zebra should pray for rencarnation:stone and if CNA's and LPN's are tired of all the crap and tired of being hounded by RN's then they should strive for rencarnation (education).

"The only place that success comes before work is in the dictionary"

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hello:

it's my first time to visit here!I would like to be a RN!

But now I am going to be a nurse in Taiwan!I just graduate last week!

I hope that I can be a RN about 3~4 years later!

And nice to meet you!

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hello:

it's my first time to visit here!I would like to be a RN!

But now I am going to be a nurse in Taiwan!I just graduate last week!

I hope that I can be a RN about 3~4 years later!

And nice to meet you!

Congratulations on your graduation & good luck in what you decide to do with your future! :balloons:
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Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
good point LPN2B......but lest we forget old mother nature.....the lower you are on the food chain the more crap you have to put up with. If a zebra is tired of been hounded by lions. that zebra should pray for rencarnation:stone and if CNA's and LPN's are tired of all the crap and tired of being hounded by RN's then they should strive for rencarnation (education).

"The only place that success comes before work is in the dictionary"

Getting an education is not going to solve the hounding problems, receive a doctorate and you'll STILL have these sort of problems all around.

I only strived for 'reincarnation' (so to speak) so i can eventually teach a nursing-related subject in college, not because i was sick of the crap, or tired of RN hounding (so to speak).

It's evidently too much for everyone at once to come together in a mutual understanding that everyone is important. (I need to get that printed on a T-shirt)

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We are all important and we all need to remember to give each other deserved pats on the back. I make it a point every shift to thank a coworker who has assisted in getting us all through the shift together. Most appreciate a kind word and a thanks if it is sincere.

Of course there's always a few LSE turkeys out there who just are determined NOT to like their coworkers and to be unhappy and resentful of others, even manipulative and vindictive...and I don't waste too much time on them. They need honest evaluations of the effect their atitudes have on their coworkers and if they can't work on that, they need to be shown the door, IMO..

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getting an education is not going to solve the hounding problems, receive a doctorate and you'll still have these sort of problems all around.

i only strived for 'reincarnation' (so to speak) so i can eventually teach a nursing-related subject in college, not because i was sick of the crap, or tired of rn hounding (so to speak).

it's evidently too much for everyone at once to come together in a mutual understanding that everyone is important. (i need to get that printed on a t-shirt)

i also believe that everyone is important, but i believe in levels of importance. the lpn that just changed the sheets for a patient is not as important (notice i said not as..they are still important) as the md that has to go into the family room to tell the family that the patient that the lpn has just changed the sheets for has just been diagnosed with malignant cancer.

it also falls into the level of responsibility. i have said this before and i will say it again. rn's are not paid considerably more than lpn's because society has it out for lpn's. it is simply due to the fact that rn's have a greater level of education than lpn's and they have a greater level of responsibility than lpn's, so in reflection they are of greater importance...(not saying that lpn's are not important because they are and if you want to be technical so are the cafeteria personnel) every one in a hospitial is important. from the janitor to the ceo of the hospital, there are just different levels of importance.

"its never to let to be what you might have been"

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Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
Of course there's always a few LSE turkeys out there who just are determined NOT to like their coworkers and to be unhappy and resentful of others, even manipulative and vindictive...and I don't waste too much time on them. They need honest evaluations of the effect their atitudes have on their coworkers and if they can't work on that, they need to be shown the door, IMO..

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I completely agree, mattsmom.

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I just get really sick and tired of people that find it necessary to preach about the obvious. Yes i know i'm not an RN, nor do i have an RN's education, but there's 2 things i'm already sick of 1) being asked when i'm going back for my RN and i haven't even giving any indication that i'm going back to school to anyone at work or home and 2) being REMINDED where my place is, or why i don't deserve the pay, etc. I KNOW this already, long before i even worked in healthcare, period. It makes for a crappy work environment, frankly i won't have the time to deal with the nursier-than-thou. Why i say nursier-than-thou? Because, even if it may not be the intent to come across that way, the attitude still comes across as that.

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Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
What some nurses don't realize is that if you're ONE CNA assigned to 24 pts. on DAY shift (meaning baths, etc.), you're not a superwoman either, yet you're going to hear "well this is your job". That sucks, i dealt with that crap too much and i'm sure it's not over yet.

What some NAs don't realize is that when a nurse is sitting down, he/she might be charting, entering assessments, etc. Although i worked with one that was on the phone to her house so much that i thought she might need a surgical procedure to help her get away from it.

Point being, it goes both ways everywhere.

But i'll remember as a nurse where i came from and that help (to the hard worker) is always appreciated.

(And ***** the ones that make the who's-better debate a focus point in their life. There's more important things than that.)

True, it does go both ways. I had a patient in need and was stuck being the monitor tech. The CNA was in another room doing a bath and the RN was drawing blood and had stuff stacked up that she was trying to do was running around while the CNA was in the room giving the bath. The CNA finished first and I mentioned the other patient needing a diaper change. The CNA mouthed off "I'm calling a meeting with the manager, couldn't you see I was busy, the nurse should have done that, just because y'all have RN behind your name doesn't mean you can't change a diaper.... blah blah blah.........." It gets tiresome........... :rotfl:

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Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
Where did you see these posts. I missed them! Not saying they aren't there, I tend to look for threads that allow me the opportunity to encourage acceptance of the LPN as a major league player by all the staff. This is not RN bashing. This is system bashing. Hope you understand the difference!

The "When in uniform" thread started out as RN bashing. Seems to me that RNs are held to a higher standard than anyone else. Not only have to be smart, competent, organized and a patient advocate, we have to meet our daily quota of smiles, too. Yet even in Nordstrum's, the sales associate is chatting away on her cellphone while she rings up my purchase. In the supermarket, they bark at me, and the drug store I have to hunt down a cashier to take my money because they're all haning out in the One-Hour Photo section gawking at someone's pictures. Come ON!

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I recently left a job where the CNA's had chips on their shoulders about what they were or were not supposed to do. It gets SO OLD!!! I went to nursing school to get my degree - its not my fault that they chose to be CNA's. And Im not going to feel guilty because I studied my butt off for 2 yrs while working a full time job to get what I wanted. I find that CNA's and others that "bash" RN's for one reason or another is because of their own insecurities and beliefs that we look down on them. This is their problem and their feelings of inadequacy that presents itself as finding fault in others. (Does that make sense?) We all bash Doctors from time to time..this happens anyw :rolleyes: :rolleyes: here you look. Its all very childish.

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