Hiring manager offered position, HR said no and won't tell me why. - page 9

Im so confused and upset. I've been a public health nurse for a year and 6 mos of cardiac pcu prior to that. 2 weeks ago I interviewed for a cardiac tele floor at ********, and it went... Read More

  1. by   MiloRN
    Quote from KelRN215
    You can say anything you please when giving a reference for someone, as long as it is true. The law doesn't address employment references, in particular, but there are laws against defamation. Of course, in order for something to be considered defamation, it has to be false. It is in no way illegal for a past employer to say "this person was fired d/t repeated call outs and coming in late on days when she chose to show up" if that's what happened. Why would the law be interested in protecting bad employees from bad references?

    Is a Former Employer's Bad Reference Illegal? - FindLaw
    I said "maybe I'm wrong". Your posts are so encouraging, gracias.
  2. by   Orion81RN
    Quote from brillohead
    Plenty of openings in SW Michigan... just sayin'!
    As in bordering Indiana? I'm in Chicago and willing to relocate. Do hospitals in that area hire ASNs going to school for BSN?
  3. by   BSNbeauty
  4. by   brillohead
    Quote from Orion81RN
    As in bordering Indiana? I'm in Chicago and willing to relocate. Do hospitals in that area hire ASNs going to school for BSN?
    Kalamazoo County, Calhoun County, Van Buren County. Yep!

    You have six years from date of hire to obtain your BSN, and they pay a little bit towards tuition reimbursement, too.

    We've got five grad nurses starting this summer just in my unit alone (37 beds) and we have more people planning on moving on to other jobs/relocating, too. We have four agency nurses right now covering holes in the schedule.
  5. by   42346_nurse_
    Does the recruiter work for the hospital as an employee or are they a head hunter? If the later and they found someone from a different head hunter the compensation to the recruiter can be significant.
  6. by   Jory
    1) Do you have anything on a background check? I would go to a website and run one on yourself in case someone has been arrested using your identify. It happens.

    2) Don't check your references yourself, find a friend that works in healthcare management and have them call as if they were checking them for a real position.

    3) Have you ever failed a drug test anywhere? This information can be legally disclosed if they checked references.

    Something absolutely went wrong, you just didn't know what it was. I have a feeling that your manger was supposed to tell HR they wanted to hire you before extending the offer directly to you.
  7. by   debirn918
    I haven't read through all the posts, but you say you have 6 months experience in PCU and a year in public health. They may have concerns about your commitment to this position. Just a thought as sometimes facilities consider length of prior employment a factor. It takes time and money to fully orient someone to a position. You say you have multistate licensure and a California license and are now in Florida. How long have you been a nurse? Maybe consider taking an additional part-time position instead of full-time. Many places are looking for weekend staff. Good luck in future.
  8. by   SobreRN
    Quote from MiloRN
    Im so confused and upset.

    I've been a public health nurse for a year and 6 mos of cardiac pcu prior to that.
    2 weeks ago I interviewed for a cardiac tele floor at ********, and it went wonderfully. The hiring manager gave me a tour of the entire unit and introduced me to almost every nurse. At the end of the tour/interview, she shook my hand and even gave me a hug and said, "Welcome to the team!"

    She told me to wait and hear from the HR department. After almost 2 weeks of not hearing anything I gave the recruiter a call and she very rudely said that they would not be hiring me and that they hired another candidate instead. I explained how the manager that I interviewed with had offered me the position and that I was very confused and wondered if she could share what went wrong or why I was being denied the position (there were day and night positions available, btw). She said she couldn't say anything. Nothing about my references or what went wrong. Just that they weren't going to offer me the position, but could not tell me a single reason why. I called the hiring manager afterwards, since she had given me her cell phone number, and she could tell I was upset and said that she would call the recruiter herself because she really wanted to hire me but HR told her that she couldn't. She called me back about 5 mins later and told me that the recruiter said she couldn't tell her or myself why. I didn't authorize a background check or anything (not that anything is on it anyways). All of my references checked out because I called each and every one of them and all gave glowing references.

    I'm so confused and upset. Has anyone else had an experience like this or have any feedback?

    Happy nurses week to me.

    Thank you for any input.
    I live in California, also an 'at will' state. Sorry you had this happen, I had a similar experience @ 15 years ago. I worked in oncology @ the time; tour of the unit and basically same thing you went through then bam, HR says no go. I have no criminal record, references checked out etc...I suspect a past manager who would be sued from here to eternity if the facility did not bury her actions. Years later I did a bit of registry @ same facility and management loved me. Suddenly with a state inspection HR pops up again and bam, no more registry there.
    Whatever HR did not like my recruiter told me they had to tell me so I asked more than once. Turns out recruiter was misinformed and I felt like an idiot. Never experienced anything like this before or since, I think it was the Loca ex-manager, she had such poor impulse control I would not put anything past her but can't prove and HR is a vault. I just moved on but not without finding out HR will say nothing and such is their prerogative. It does leave one feeling as if their will be a repeat when you apply elsewhere but I never had it happen again and hope you don't go though this again.
    You'll know you have the job when they go forward with tox screen, TB, FIT test and anything else which they are putting out $ for.
    Last edit by SobreRN on May 29 : Reason: typo
  9. by   masonicusRN
    As a fellow resident of a different "at-will" state... They don't have to give you a reason. If they didn't like you for a superficial reason, they could refuse to hire you. it's unfortunate, but it's the way it is. I'd say come to NC but same rules apply here. We've got plenty of openings, though. Good luck on your journey!