help me buck the system, please! super-traditional pinning ceremony that nobody wants

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Hi all-

I'm posting this in the general discussion rather than the student discussion, as I want to hear from people who were successful in doing something like this.

I'm the president of my ADN class, graduating this May. We have 17 students, 14 of them women. Our faculty is, almost entirely, *extremely* conservative, and the school is in a very small town. Our pinning ceremony is held in a church, and has pretty significant christian religious overtones, which I have a problem with; I think it's an inappropriate blurring of the line between church and state (this is a state-funded community college), and I've had a few students express discomfort with having the ceremony in this church. By the way- it's only held there for faculty preference; there's plenty of room on campus.

My main concern, though, is the attire for the ceremony. We're being forced to wear white dresses and caps. Now, we have to wear the caps in most clinical rotations, which is enough of an indignity (people think we're kidding, that other staff members are playing practical jokes on them by sending students in the room with caps on...it's nauseating, but I've tried to change this with no success). But I think it's ludicrous to insist we wear them at the pinning ceremony. It's *our* event, not the faculty's. In my opinion, the requirement that women wear dresses is inappropriately sexist, and from a logistical standpoint, *nobody* should be spending money on a white dress that will gather dust forever, when we have the expense of the NCLEX looming in our immediate future.

We have one student who wants to wear a white dress, and the others are adamantly opposed to it. I'm looking for ways to approach the program director with alternatives...I think that I need to have some suggestions, or he's just going to shut it down completely. Personally, this issue is important enough to me that I won't attend the ceremony if we have to wear the dresses. I know of at least 2 other women who plan to do the same thing.

My current plan is to have a meeting with the director and my vice-president to discuss the feelings our class has about the issue, and suggest a couple of alternatives- wearing nice, 'dressy' outfits, or wearing our clinical uniform (white smock and lab coat with navy pants). I'd like to hear from anyone else who had to address this issue, and how you resolved it. I'm also open to any suggestions *anyone* has...this director is extremely old-fashioned (he said he'd have us all wearing black stockings and orthopedic shoes, if he had his way), but he also respects me *specifically* because I'm confident and outspoken. By the way, if this were not the prevailing feeling of the other class members, I'd just skip the ceremony...I'm treating it like a class issue because I feel that's my role as the class president.

Also, please don't try to convince me we should be wearing the dresses. I don't really give a hoot about someone else's traditions that encourage disrespect and sexism, so the 'traditional' nurse's uniform is something I refuse to ever put on my body. I find the caps degrading enough...I am a medical professional in training, and there's nothing more irritating than having a doctor or nurse or patient say, 'how *cute*!!' when I walk into a room. If you disagree with me, I certainly respect your opinion, but I am absolutely certain of my position on this subject.

Specializes in Education, Acute, Med/Surg, Tele, etc.

Well...about the previous class paying..that money is a gift! It shouldn't have strings attached but a gift to your class for making it through! I would much rather that class have a say in what they wanted to do to celebrate then to 'make' them do anything!

Our class chose nice dress, no caps of any kind, but other than that I guess it was pretty much like a regular graduation...lots of speakers, everyone coming up to get their degrees...the whole bit. Guess the after party was quite wild though!

I was the ONLY one that did not go to my graduation! After 4 years of being with my sweetheart who supported me 100% and then some through all of nursing school, I chose that day to show him how much he and my family ment to me and got married that day! They waited long enough for me to have some time for them..and I wasn't wasting a minute of it! While my friends were listening to a lecture from some official they never met, I was toasting my love and getting in the car for a gorgeous sunrise ferry trip to Victoria BC!

Do your own thing...there's no way I would respond to this since my class (1985) did have a "traditional" (or degrading as some suggested) graduation.

Man, and they talk about older nurses eating their young. I felt positively ridiculed reading this. :angryfire

I've never heard of students wearing those caps to clinicals. How 'quaint':rolleyes: :angryfire :rolleyes: We had these ugly yellow smocks which were bad enough. I can't imagine how ridiculous I would feel walking into a pt room with an utterly out of date cap! Truthfully, if nurses still had to wear those I probably wouldn't have become one!

Our class voted on these matters. We chose caps and nursing white dresses, except for the one guy who didn't have to wear a cap (or a dress). I did vote yes on the caps, in deference to tradition. We also voted on what kind of photos to have, individual ones or an outdoor group one. There was quite a row over that, with a lot of bad feelings.:uhoh21: Everyone was quite stressed out by the end of the program and sick of one another, sick of school, and totally frazzled.

I'm quite a religious person, but the church thing is really an inappropriate setting for a State school to have a ceremony. I think a nice prayer is fine, but in a church is more than a little over the line.

All that said, if I were you I would just go along with everything. It really isn't worth it making a stink.

When it comes time for me to graduate, I will moonwalk across the stage butt-naked with my books balanced on my head if that is what they want.

In all honesty, I love the thought of wearing the traditional white dress and cap for graduation.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Geriatric, Behavioral Health.

Well, there are two schools of thought.

One--the tradition of nursing

Two--the practice of nursing

The tradition would emphasize the antiquated concept of what nursing is...the throwback to the nurse-nun with the cap and/or bib uniform reflecting the nun's habit. The problem here is that even MOST contemporary nuns do not wear the habit anymore. Nursing was also considered more of a vocation/calling than a profession.

The practice would emphasize the contemporary concept of what nursing is...a profession, if you will. The dress would reflect more a professional attire, more akin what we would equate to either the college cap and gown which recognizes achievement of professional (educational) status or the wearing of formal/business attire.

As you can see by most threads, the concensus is what nursing reflects currently...the professional achievement and attainment of a certain body of knowledge as pertaining to that profession.

I think you received some very good feedback from other posters above. You may want to print out these posts, review them with your colleagues, draw up a written proposal, signed by those in favor, and present it to your school chair for something to collaborate on. Traditions die hard. But, a tradition is only as good as the acceptance by all/most in its relevance for meaning. If not, the tradition is a dead tradition and serves no purpose.

I admire you for your stance in presenting this for your class. This quality is a reflection of good leadership. This reflects well on you for it is a quality of the contemporary professional nurse who must question the relevance of how things are done and why they are done in the best interest of the patient...or in this case, your class. It is a quality most admired and respected in the field and in the profession of nursing. Tradition would have you to never question. Reality is...is that you must. When approaching your chair with your recommendations, be professional and objective.

I wish you the best of luck and much success upon your graduation and thereafter.

Sincerely,

Thunderwolf RN, BSN, MSEd, MSN

Specializes in ER.

If you can get your whole class together on a plan and present it to the boss there should be no reason for her to insist on something that you don't want. It's your day.

I like the idea of matching scrubs in whatever style/color you all want. You can wear them again at your jobs so the expense won't be too tough.

I share your distaste of having it in a church.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Geriatric, Behavioral Health.

Canoehead's suggestion is very good...it is a compromise between what I described above as the tradition vs the practice approach of nursing.

The concept of having it in a church would actually be a throwback to the nurse-nun.

Is this something we really want to reinforce or step away from?

Consider that possibly there is a lesson to be learned, what about humility, while wearing a cap that announces you are a nurse perhaps you should show pride that you are becoming a professional and you should learn to be looked upon differently. Perhaps, thew white dresses are to honor a tradition tah nursing is something you should be proud of and shine while doing. Perhaps the faculty just wants a good laugh after taking crap from all of you for the last 2 years LOL!!!

I probably shouldn't be posting because I feel that usually traditions have their purpose and yes they are always subject to change because your traditions aren't their traditions, but you know I was Proud to walk down the isle in My white Nursing uniform that I wore to all my clincals and carry my little lamp and recite the nurses oath. I felt it was a right of passage and I felt I deserved it!

Well, I was in the second graduating class of a new nursing program. The previous class wore their white nursing scrubs, and they looked extremely dingy, dorky, underdressed, and so forth. My class discussed this issue. The nursing administration was very set for us to wear the whites. We did not wish to; therefore we discussed among ourselves and came up with wearing a black dress (any style) with black hose - we had to wear a black dress for the graduation, anyway - and black shoes, any style. Over this we wore our white coat with the student's patch. Many of us did not have the money to put out for something that would only be worn once and never again. It looked smart, stylish, professional, a mixture of the images we wanted to embody in the nursing department. We wrote down all this and several other suggestions before we had a final meeting with the head of the nursing school. After all, it was our night to shine. I also like the idea of matching scrubs, which the following classes after us had - we didn't as they hadn't formalised the uniform yet.

Specializes in Rehab, Step-down,Tele,Hospice.

I graduated this past August. Our DON told us we must all wear our hair up in a little bun. We all showed up with OUR hair neatly groomed but down in our prefered style. The way we looked at it was we payed our dues for 18 months, we were now out on our own. Not one word was said about it.

The ceremony was great and I was very proud to be there. WITH my hair the way I like it!

Specializes in PICU, Nurse Educator, Clinical Research.
I support you in your position, but I would also urge you not to skip your pinning over this. You have earned the right to be there, even if the circumstances are not exactly what you would like. You should be proud of your accomplishments, and have earned the right to celebrate this day. Please don't let the details overshadow all you've done to finish school.

While I'm extremely proud of my accomplishments- this is my 3rd career, and I've had to fight through much more resistance on this one than on the first two- for me, there are two days I will feel like celebrating: the day I get my first RN job, and the day I receive my passing NCLEX-RN score. I don't put much stock in ceremony in the first place, and I've walked out on things before when they violated my ethics and values. I will, however, pursue this, because the ceremony is important to many of my classmates.

Specializes in MS Home Health.

Ours was just a regular old graduation/long gown/mortarboard (spelling) and nothing special...no pinning. We did not even have to buy a pin but I did. I remember getting threatened as the nursing students are pretty roudy (surprise) but there was a group of us who put RN in glitter on the top of our mortarboard/hehehehe. I could not resist.

On the flip side I did not attend my high school, bachelor or masters graduation.

renerian

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