Experienced Nurses Only

luvmy3kids · Oct 6, 2006

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flashpoint · Oct 6, 2006

I still would like to see a forum specifically for PRACTICING RN's, a safe place to vent and bounce things off each other.
But, as I see already from responses on this thread, students can't seem to follow directions and not post where they're not asked to.
So, as with everything in nursing, another good idea down the drain due to lack of support. Nothing will ever change in this profession.
Signing off.

And keep the PRACTICING LPNs out of there because we don't count! I rarely get into RN/LPN thing, but it does get pretty old hearing things like RNs only...

I don't disagree that it would be nice to vent about things without hearing how we are burned out or mean or uncaring or whatever, but I think everyone has something to offer...and sometimes people need to vent about all of the venting they hear...:)

JenNJFLCA · Oct 6, 2006

No replies from students please!
Nurses, are you frustrated with trying to read theses forums only to find that most of the posts are from students or nurse wanna-be's looking for medical advice? You can usually tell them by the poor grammer.
Can we have a forum created for experienced nurses only to post?
No flames, let's just be honest here.

An experienced nurse forum sounds like a great idea.

That being said, the OP said that she could usually tell who the students are by their poor grammar (this is the proper way to spell the word, by the way)? Are you kidding? I have been out of nursing school for 5 months, and I can honestly tell you that I did not suddenly learn how to write the English language the day I became a nurse.

Mistysmoke · Oct 6, 2006

i am not a nurse, i'm not even a student yet.

that being said, i would love to read the vents people have about things going on at work, the things that are tough to deal with etc. it would give me an idea of what things i may encounter when and if i do get to and through nursing school into a career. i like to go into things with eyes wide open, not with rose colored glasses, so i figure anything i read will help me learn a thing or two of what may be in store for me.

anne74 · Oct 6, 2006

exactly! it would be lovely to have a thread where we can vent without being told we have bad attitudes, or shouldn't be precepting anymore or are old dogs or burnt out or any of the above by someone without enough experience to understand. i'm not sure how we'd go about keeping those kinds of posts out of our forum, though. still, if it could work, i'd love it!

did you ever think that maybe there's some truth to these comments? that's one of the benefits of a web site like this - getting different perspectives and insights on topics. it's not a site where everyone is going to agree with you - and do you want it like that? (well, you probably do.)

why do so many "experienced" nurses want to shut out the new generations of nurses? don't you feel some kind of obligation to help progress nursing?

when i started out as a nurse (no - i'm not a student anymore) i fondly looked up to experienced nurses and admired them. but then when i started getting snooty comments, rolling eyes, being "tattled' on, and treated like i was a burden, my attitude changed. i was crushed and almost wanted to leave nursing. pretty juvenile behavior from such "experienced" nurses.

it's such a shame, and very hurtful to our industry. sure - everyone needs to vent, but learn some more healthy - and less harmful - ways to cope. new nurses - and students - shouldn't have to pay for your unhappiness. the worst part of this whole phenomenon is that many students/new nurses are missing out on learning from your valuable experiences. very sad.

anyway, i totally understand the desire for an experienced nurses forum. experienced nurses have a different perspective. but perhaps you should nix the "exclusiveness" of it, and stop separating yourselves from the unworthy, less experienced students. that makes people lose a lot of respect for you.

CHATSDALE · Oct 6, 2006

miranda, i can see why you are a supermoderator - this was a well thought out, helpful post

thank you

rn/writer, RN · Oct 6, 2006

miranda, i can see why you are a supermoderator - this was a well thought out, helpful post
thank you

What a kind thing to say. Thanks. You made my day.

RN34TX · Oct 6, 2006

I can actually see where you are going, and I see that you are from Texas, so you realize that LVN's have pretty much the same experiences/autonomy as you. Are you saying that LVNs are not allowed to answer on this possible new forum? Pretty much the only thing Rns can do that I can't is hang blood, then LVNs do all the vitals and after care.

Oh, I never even touched on that aspect and didn't mean to ignore it.

I really took the post to mean experienced nurse period (LPN/LVN/RN) vs. student or new grad in any category with little/no experience, but the OP did in fact specify "RN".

I'm not sure if it was intended to exclude LVN's or not because I notice that people sometimes do say "RN's" when they really mean "nurses" in general.

Not only do I realize LVN scope of practice in Texas, I was one as well for years, both in TX and several other states.

I'm not really wanting to "not allow" any particular category of member to post or not, as I myself lurk and post questions in areas that I'm not familiar with and just have an interest in. It's nice to have access to particular nurses that you normally never have contact with at work and have questions that they could answer, such as thinking about transferring to another area and wanting to find out what their jobs are like. I also sometimes ask students questions about their nursing programs and what is taught so I learn from them as well.

I was just saying that it's nice to be able to vent to someone who understands without the post being interpreted through green/idealistic eyes who's more likely to focus on the other things I mentioned ("I hope I don't get burned out like you when I become a nurse" or "I'm a new grad and this post is freaking me out", etc.) than the situation in general that another experienced RN or LVN could relate to.

It's just nice to be able to vent and tell your story of how your shift went without feeling like you're representing the whole profession or your specialty to students or new nurses.

I might want to post about a particularly bad day or one isolated situation without it getting interpreted as:

"Nursing is a nightmare and you need to get out while you can..... Every ICU in every hospital is horrible to work in....I hate my job and I hate nursing period......" but that's what sometimes happens when the yet-to-be seasoned folks read some of the posts.

PANurseRN1 · Oct 6, 2006

No replies from students please!
Nurses, are you frustrated with trying to read theses forums only to find that most of the posts are from students or nurse wanna-be's looking for medical advice? You can usually tell them by the poor grammer.
Can we have a forum created for experienced nurses only to post?
No flames, let's just be honest here.

I'd be for it. It would cut down on having to wade throught all of the "horrible older nurses" threads/posts, or posts from people who are pre-nursing students but seem to know it all already. Not to mention there wouldn't be the "Write my paper/care plan for me" posts, either.

PANurseRN1 · Oct 6, 2006

exactly! it would be lovely to have a thread where we can vent without being told we have bad attitudes, or shouldn't be precepting anymore or are old dogs or burnt out or any of the above by someone without enough experience to understand. i'm not sure how we'd go about keeping those kinds of posts out of our forum, though. still, if it could work, i'd love it!

yes, along with "my preceptor watches me too much/my preceptor doesn't watch me enough/my preceptor gives me too much feedback/my preceptor doesn't give me enough feedback, etc., etc., etc."

every time an experienced nurse vents, you can be sure that some student/pre-nursing student/someone who is thinking about becoming a student/cna/cma will take that nurse to task. i would love to see a forum where the other posters would know exactly what i was talking about and not be quick to condemn.

it could be like a "veteran nurse" forum. you have to have a minimum of 10 years as an rn/lpn...extra points for those who've been in nursing 20+ years.

texas_lvn · Oct 6, 2006

Oh, I never even touched on that aspect and didn't mean to ignore it.
I really took the post to mean experienced nurse period (LPN/LVN/RN) vs. student or new grad in any category with little/no experience, but the OP did in fact specify "RN".
I'm not sure if it was intended to exclude LVN's or not because I notice that people sometimes do say "RN's" when they really mean "nurses" in general.
I might want to post about a particularly bad day or one isolated situation without it getting interpreted as:
"Nursing is a nightmare and you need to get out while you can..... Every ICU in every hospital is horrible to work in....I hate my job and I hate nursing period......" but that's what sometimes happens when the yet-to-be seasoned folks read some of the posts.

I was not directing the RN/LVN at you. Please do not take offense.

I agree about having a cruddy night and wanting to vent. I do get upset when someone was a thread and the first response is "if your unhappy, leave!" But I have to say I doubt that only students write that. And I doubt that having an experienced nursing only forum would eliminate this.

I am all about having the forum, but I think I took offense to the "Experienced RN's" and the typo scenerio.

And OP, You still not have answered what an experienced nurse is.?.?.?.?.?

Edit to add: I LOVE THE FACT YOU USED YET-TO-BE in place of wanna-be. This would have eliminated alot of hurt feelings.

also spell checked for RWS:)

PANurseRN1 · Oct 6, 2006

Did you ever think that maybe there's some truth to these comments? That's one of the benefits of a web site like this - getting different perspectives and insights on topics. It's not a site where everyone is going to agree with you - and do you want it like that? (Well, you probably do.)
Why do so many "experienced" nurses want to shut out the new generations of nurses? Don't you feel some kind of obligation to help progress nursing?
When I started out as a nurse (no - I'm not a student anymore) I fondly looked up to experienced nurses and admired them. But then when I started getting snooty comments, rolling eyes, being "tattled' on, and treated like I was a burden, my attitude changed. I was crushed and almost wanted to leave nursing. Pretty juvenile behavior from such "experienced" nurses.
It's such a shame, and very hurtful to our industry. Sure - everyone needs to vent, but learn some more healthy - and less harmful - ways to cope. New nurses - and students - shouldn't have to pay for your unhappiness. The worst part of this whole phenomenon is that many students/new nurses are missing out on learning from your valuable experiences. Very sad.
Anyway, I totally understand the desire for an experienced nurses forum. Experienced nurses have a different perspective. But perhaps you should nix the "exclusiveness" of it, and stop separating yourselves from the unworthy, less experienced students. That makes people lose a lot of respect for you.

Prime example. Bash the older nurses strikes again.