Do nurses tend to be enablers?

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A coworker yesterday was distracted by a drama with a friend. She had refused to loan her car to the friend, so the friend started texting how she would be better off dead, was a waste of a space, etc. It came out that this friend had done this before, my coworker had caved in. She's repeatedly loaned money without getting repaid, the friend manipulates her with these histrionics and has done so for years. This coworker is over 70 and is still working, to pay off "one more big bill" and because she loves nursing, so she's not rolling in money . The friend is 20 years younger.

My coworker said that the friend was really fun and she cared about her. She said she really needs to be liked. I suggested that she was an enabler. She said, well, you know how we nurses are...

I told her that I am not like that at all! I would never stay friends with someone who wants to repeatedly borrow money, let alone not pay it back! I hate drama and inconsiderate people! I've had my better nature taken advantage of in the past and learned from it that I don't like it and don't want users in my life.

So what do you think, do nurses tend to be enablers?

Specializes in Critical Care.
In the patient sense i feel like this is true. If the patient is very difficult, the nurse will do whatever for the patient just to keep them happy.

Ha, no it only confirms my motto people are impossible to please. In that situation I will do the bare minimum and avoid the patient as much as possible. They would actually get less help from me than if they had been pleasant!

Specializes in Travel, Home Health, Med-Surg.
I am much less of an enabler after becoming a nurse. I have seen people with REAL problems and seen REAL injustice and tragedy. Now I can ignore friends and family's made-up drama. You got your health? Then get out of my face and my pocketbook. Call me Hard-Hearted Hannah.

Me too Hard-hearted Hannah, I am too old to deal with peoples made up drama whether it be from family, friends or patients, and I have seen all. I have loaned money to peers before but like others have said, if I don't get it back that was the 1 and only time.

Specializes in NICU, ICU, PICU, Academia.
Do you think enablers are essentially buying friends?

I think people enable to avoid conflict or feelings.

Specializes in Psychiatry, Community, Nurse Manager, hospice.
Do you think enablers are essentially buying friends?

What you're describing isn't enabling.

But I don't really feel like arguing that point too hard, because enabling is a bs self help concept; not evidence based and not effective in helping family members and friends to cope with a loved one's addiction or other problem behavior.

If your friend doesn't have a problem lending her money or car then it's not a problem. It's just the way those two people interact. Not everyone has the same ideas of personal boundaries. However, if the individual does have a problem with it, she can learn boundary setting. Either way, it's not up to us to decide that her behavior is enabling.

Specializes in Psych, HIV/AIDS.

As far as I'm concerned, this 70-year-old is a victim of ELDERLY ABUSE!

Specializes in ER.

The commonly accepted definition of an enabler, as in codependency, is someone who in some way shields a person from consequences, or encourages the continuance of an addiction or other bad behavior. Someone who continues to loan money that themselves need for retirement, not getting paid back, because they are afraid of not being liked, surely falls into that category. If the friend makes suicidal comments if she doesn't get said loan, in order to guilt trip the person into doing what she want, that's definitely the unhealthy codependent relationship that people refer to with that terminology.

The question of the thread was, are nurses more prone to this?

Specializes in NICU.

Hell Noooooooo!Had my fill of crazy complainers,leeches,dishonest nurses,too cheap to spend a buck on needs then complain about it.Bye Bye.

Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
So what do you think, do nurses tend to be enablers?

I don not think that nurses generally have a tendency to be enablers.

An enabler is one who not only condones, but assists another in attaining self-centered goals without them having to deal with the ramifications of their own actions. The majority of nurses have a goal of assisting others to meet their goal. Assisting or helping others gives us a sense of self-worth which elevates our esteem.

Joseph Campbell said something like, and I'm paraphrasing here, "The conscious is heightened through dealing with trials and tribulations which result in subsequent illuminating revelations". Not allowing another to have to deal with the ramifications of their actions enables them to be stunted in their growth and development.

So, in a sense, those who have been inhibitors, or stumbling blocks, in the path of us reaching our goals have actually assisted us in gaining a higher consciousness.

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I am willing to help people who really want to help themselves. I learned the hard way. I have always helped and donated money to a lot of people and organizations. I finally found out the people would always then depend on me to get them out of their mess and actually one time they were getting money from me while blowing their money on miscellaneous things, not paying their bills or getting their car fixed. I finally learned to say No! I now these same people know I have bills of my own and being single I am the only one working. I also let them know I am saving to retire. I have tried to help them learn to save money for emergencies but going to Carowinds is more important or getting their nails done is what they spend their money on, which is none of my business. I just no longer shell out my money. Especially if I am not paid back what is borrowed.

Call me a hard butt, but I will not loan anyone any money for any reason. There have been times where I will fill up a gas tank or buy some groceries, but I never give cash to anyone.

I'm definitely not. I'm more tough love. I'm all for helping people out but when they aren't helping themselves or screw me over by not paying me back, taking advantage etc. Gravy train ends. I dont care if they quit liking me. They weren't true friends to begin with if they will be willing to end a friendship because I wont loan them 500 bucks.

Specializes in Med-Surg, NICU.

I have noticed a lot of female nurses are oftentimes with deadbeats and work crazy hours as the primary breadwinner.

I'm not sure how much of it has to deal with being a nurse versus having low self-esteem.

I made sure to get with a guy who has his money right. No support of manchildren from here!!!

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