Absolutely FURIOUS!!!! - page 5
Hey, guys, I need some serious calming down. A lot of y'all remember the thread "All is not well in the kingdom", where I talked about the horrible job and subsequent termination I had had. I... Read More
May 1, '09Joined: Dec '06; Posts: 2,135; Likes: 3,205Quote from AngelfireRNI don't think you are being melodramatic at all. You are 100% right to have reservations here. Take the job so you have income and keep looking. Your new employer doesn't sound very bright and I wonder if they are desperate because for her to tell you that all your references were negative and then hire you anyway looks very bad on their part. Add in that you know for a fact she's lying and that's Strike 2. Furthermore if she was going to give you a shot she should have shut her yap and let you start with a clean slate and not get things off on a negative foot. She has already deemed you a problem without you even working one shift. You will be under the microscope and the good thing is you are smart enough to know it.I don't know about melodrama, I just hate going into a new job with a perception like that. Feels like I'm starting off in the hole.
I was just thinking that I would run this conversation by your lawyer before accepting. See what they have to say. Can't hurt any and I'm not sold on the fact that in essence that didn't cost you a job because I just don't see this going well and that's through no fault of your own. I would also see if they will follow up to your former employer with a letter even if they advise you to take the job.
May 2, '09Occupation: Licensed Practical Nurse Specialty: Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '05; Posts: 9,297; Likes: 8,221Contact the powers that be and have that tech dealt with.
May 2, '09Occupation: Licensed Practical Nurse Specialty: Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health ; From: US ; Joined: Sep '05; Posts: 9,297; Likes: 8,221Quote from AngelfireRNIf they hired you, it seems that they are mature enough to know that the tech is an idiot, and it should also represent why you left the place to begin with. You can't change what happened, you can only prove them wrong. Your new employer must have been able to tell that the tech was inappropriate because they took it to a higher level and looked past it to hire you, anyhow.I don't know about melodrama, I just hate going into a new job with a perception like that. Feels like I'm starting off in the hole.
May 2, '09Joined: Aug '04; Posts: 9,279; Likes: 4,301Quote from AngelfireRNWell, I got the job, but now I am having MAJOR misgivings about it. The PNB said that ALL my references said that I got on people's nerves, and that the termination from the clinic was not my first dismissal, neither of which are true. I also know that MY references did not say that. I know, because I called them and asked. I told her as much, and also asked about the tech, and was met with,
"Well, see, now you've given me even more reason to be concerned, you're getting all defensive and making a mountain out of a molehill. What I want to know is, are you willing to change?"
Well, devil YEAH! I am going to defend myself if there are rumors being bandied about that I have a propensity for being fired. That's human nature. I swear, if I was no desperate for a job, I'd have told her where to stick it. I hate liars. So, as soon as I get my licensure (job is in a neighboring state), I start, only PRN, which is great for me. I am also going to continue to look, because this is sounding like it may be as much of a rat's nest as what I just left. Thanks again, all, I appreciate the support.
Huge red flag there. She's saying that she doesn't believe you and hasn't taken you at your word. What's going to happen on the job in a critical situation? You're coming into this job crippled by a misperception.
Having a job -- any job -- is not worth your license. Find something where you will at least have the chance to be liked, respected, and above all, trusted.
May 2, '09Joined: Aug '05; Posts: 1,567; Likes: 2,568Lots if posts so I don't know if you will ever read this one but: JACKPOT!!!! You at least have the potential for a nice earily retirement by way of a generous settelment from your former employer. NO LEGAL ADVISE- I don't know your chances, but if you can sue McDonalds for serving hot coffee I'm betting you have better odds than the lottery! I'd at least look into it. This is along the same lines of hoping my favorite screaming surgeon will get worked up enough to take a swing at me some day- I can only hope to be so lucky.
May 2, '09Occupation: Freelancing Specialty: 15 year(s) of experience in LTC, Med/Surg, Peds, ICU, Tele ; Joined: Jun '07; Posts: 5,292; Likes: 7,635Quote from suannaYou can't successfully sue someone unless you have been actually damaged. In this case, the OP did get a job offer. It'll be hard to prove that it got the OP off on the wrong foot in her new job because of what this tech said, especially when the OP did get fired from the job.Lots if posts so I don't know if you will ever read this one but: JACKPOT!!!! You at least have the potential for a nice earily retirement by way of a generous settelment from your former employer. NO LEGAL ADVISE- I don't know your chances, but if you can sue McDonalds for serving hot coffee I'm betting you have better odds than the lottery! I'd at least look into it. This is along the same lines of hoping my favorite screaming surgeon will get worked up enough to take a swing at me some day- I can only hope to be so lucky.
May 2, '09Joined: Jan '09; Posts: 5,390; Likes: 10,366Quote from CdaleJekyllI'm just so glad to see that the rule against giving legal advice has apparently been removed.
To all who read my posts here on Allnurses:
I am not an RN (yet), a lawyer, or kitty OB/GYN... although in times of emergency, I will step up to the plate!
May 2, '09Occupation: QAPI RN/MDS Specialty: 25 year(s) of experience in LTC ; From: MO, US ; Joined: Jun '06; Posts: 305; Likes: 310Quote from Ellean55It was a med tech, not an LPN.Sorry to be blunt but this ***** wants your job! She seems like one of these LPNs who has this " I can do the nursing job better than you" type of BS - dont let her jealousy destory your career - you;ve worked to hard to get where you are. If it was me I would say " you want to be an RN, I suggest you go back to nursing school get your BSN/MSN get clinical experience and then come back in 4 years time then come and challenge me, until then watch your mouth, calm down, fix your attitude and go do your job" . I am not trying to suggest that all nursing assistants have this attitude, but sometimes people like this need a "harsh" reminder of their duties and position.
May 2, '09Joined: Apr '09; Posts: 13; Likes: 18Angelfire I totally can understand why u r furious. I would be to. The medtech should be fired. and you should definately pursue slander.
May 2, '09Joined: Jan '09; Posts: 167; Likes: 64OMG! OP, you did NOT overreact at all! I too would be furious! I was in a VERY similar instance a while back (over a bs job) and spoke with a lawyer. The advice the lawyer gave me was to file suit if you don't get the new job.. if you get it, then don't worry about the previous job's bs.
I'll be wishing you well for getting the job!
May 2, '09Occupation: RN Specialty: 4 year(s) of experience in Med/Surg, Acute Rehab ; From: US ; Joined: Jul '08; Posts: 339; Likes: 416Angel, the poster named Batman took the words right out of my mouth. I totally agree with him! Since it is PRN, (how many days a week?), you could probably deal with it while you look for another job. It was stupid and unprofessional for the PNB to even mention twhat the other refs said. Asking you if you are willing to change, as if you are a child, is not a great way of dealing with a new employee. She should wait and make up her own mind. Obviously, she already has some preconceived notions and there is nothing you can do about that. Just do your best, knowing that it will be a temporary situation for you and look real hard for something else.
Good luck and be Strong! umpiron:
May 2, '09Joined: Jul '07; Posts: 1,464; Likes: 4,092Thanks again, guys. I still have not heard what the clinic is going to do to that tech. I mean, I trust the NP a WHOLE lot more than I trust PNB ( maybe I should just call her NB now?) , but I was hoping not to drag her into this. She's ready to quit anyway, though, and all that crazy doc'll have to do is look at her cross-eyed and she's gone. That's a comfort, that if they razz her about telling me what was said, she's good to go.
The consensus is right, I got the job, so I can't sue for damages. I'd just about have to have had the tech's convo tape-recorded to prove anything. There's days I hate the legal system. I really don't want a suit, but it would be nice to know that I would not be "guilty until proven innocent" if I did. I can not prove that NB is lying, even though 3 references say she is. I think that falls under hearsay. I just finally told her, "You know, if I AM irritating people, then we need to pinpoint exactly WHAT I'm doing, because NO ONE can tell me." I guess upper management has not acknowledged is that a)you're not going to please everyone, b) some folks just LIKE to complain, and c) some folks are just going o take one look at you and decide they don't like you, no reason needed. I know, because I have been there. Several times. Maybe they did not like my aura or something, who knows. Point is, y'all can all relate.
Thanks again all, I'm off to get myself a nice pizza for lunch. Ahhh, fat and calories!
May 2, '09Joined: Oct '08; Posts: 10,099; Likes: 11,602Quote from airforcerni love it!! that made me laugh because some wingnut who got herself fired yesterday (who knows why) from her cna job called my husband this morning at 7:30 (saturday morning) to ask him for a reference for a job... she was in his english lit class twenty or so years ago! guess what he said?! aarruugghhh! end of hijack.:icon_roll
"sorry, can't come to the tomorrow, i'm suing the last place that fired me."
sharpeimomLast edit by sharpeimom on May 2, '09