Asking this question for a family member. I used to be a nurse, no longer working as a nurse but is still in health care so I am very unfamiliar with the current process. My family member just found out he failed the clinical portion of nursing school. I remember back then, I really did not learn much from nursing school clinically. I learned a bit from my externship and the majority on the job. With this COVID pandemic, classes including clinical experience are converted to online. How is it possible for the school to fail someone who never sees a patient, receives the 1:1 preceptorship with a nurse, and learns the nursing skill?
You do realize that the hospitals are the ones preventing nursing students from doing clinicals in their hospitals? It is the hospitals' choice to continue to let medical students in the hospital during Covid. If online clinical requirements are "stupid", what would have been your solution?
And every lack of a even a hint of cooperation from hospitals is another thing people should pay attention to. It doesn't hurt them one bit to deprive futures nurses of clinical experiences. Hopefully everyone realizes that the less knowledge we come out of school with, the weaker our positioning and the less power we have. Meanwhile it's just another day for $B corporations. Why should they care if they can get a new grad pay them (or become otherwise indebeted) for the opportunity to have a job?
And it isn't just hospitals. We do actually have a CoE in this profession and no, schools of nursing should not keep admitting students if they can't or aren't willing to figure out how to make sure students have appropriate experiences and aren't graduating with crappy positioning that will only ever be used and abused for others' benefit.
He is not going to win an appeal to get credit for the class.......it sounds like a for profit school....so he probably can get readmitted through the appeal process. If you have a problem with school itself, file a concern with BON. In my experience, in person clinical guidelines are fairly well outlined by the BON, but were thrown out the window due to COVID>
I teach both in-persona and virtual clinicals in midst of COVID. I much prefer in person experiences but I do think there is value to be found in virtual simulations and I sometimes think it is easier to see where students are lacking in their critical thinking skills.
If you spend as much time to read through the post as you make assumptions about the student that would be rate. The school degree attrition is 50%...that says a lot about the school quality ?♀️
@candicenguyen I'm just curious, before your relative accepted admission into this school, did you ever try to dissuade him from his decision given the above attrition rate? As a nursing professional yourself, I would feel it would be a duty somewhat to steer him away from what would be a crapshoot with this school versus waiting it out for a more legit school. I know nowadays, it still wouldn't have spared him from online clinicals as this is just the way it is with Covid, but with a more "seasoned" school, he might have gotten more bang for his buck.
Where does OP state that her relative skipped Clinicals?
The OP doesn't give any relevant details. Just leaves people to guess, then jumps down peoples throats when they "make assumptions". It's why I've not bothered to offer any solution. But the popcorn ? is delicious. NurseBlaq, where are you?
The OP doesn't give any relevant details. Just leaves people to guess, then jumps down peoples throats when they "make assumptions". It's why I've not bothered to offer any solution. But the popcorn ? is delicious. NurseBlaq, where are you?
She is here soliciting information, but she is not receptive to valid responses. If anyone is making assumptions, it is the OP.
The person has to pass both portions or they fail. Nursing requires a lot and if the person can't handle finishing the training, how will they actually handle working? The schooling part is easier in my opinion. There are some things that you can and cant fight. It doesn't seem the person will win this fight. Look through the board at all of the unfairness nurses recieve while working. Pick and choose your battles.
The person has to pass both portions or they fail. Nursing requires a lot and if the person can't handle finishing the training, how will they actually handle working? The schooling part is easier in my opinion. There are some things that you can and cant fight. It doesn't seem the person will win this fight. Look through the board at all of the unfairness nurses recieve while working. Pick and choose your battles.
Well said. When I compare school with working, I see how evident that the glaring "unfair" aspects of nursing school only mirrored the hellish aspects of nursing work life yet to come.
The OP doesn't give any relevant details. Just leaves people to guess, then jumps down peoples throats when they "make assumptions". It's why I've not bothered to offer any solution. But the popcorn ? is delicious. NurseBlaq, where are you?
Sitting on the sidelines eating my popcorn. I don't know any details to give advice either way so I've just been watching. ?
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And every lack of a even a hint of cooperation from hospitals is another thing people should pay attention to. It doesn't hurt them one bit to deprive futures nurses of clinical experiences. Hopefully everyone realizes that the less knowledge we come out of school with, the weaker our positioning and the less power we have. Meanwhile it's just another day for $B corporations. Why should they care if they can get a new grad pay them (or become otherwise indebeted) for the opportunity to have a job?
And it isn't just hospitals. We do actually have a CoE in this profession and no, schools of nursing should not keep admitting students if they can't or aren't willing to figure out how to make sure students have appropriate experiences and aren't graduating with crappy positioning that will only ever be used and abused for others' benefit.
That's it.