I got into a debate with a high school friend on FB (I have since hidden his posts since I can't see his politics without raising my blood pressure) about this last summer.
I posted a link to an article about a girl sent home because she was wearing a sundress with spaghetti straps. Yes, she was out of dress code, but my point was that the dress code is overly restrictive and leads to body shaming for young women.
His argument was that men are biologically hard wired to look at women's bodies.
My argument was that why are we teaching our young women that they need to cover up instead of teaching our young men not to ogle.
I lost him when I asked "At what point does the man assume responsibility? When a young woman is on the stand being asked what she was wearing and if she'd been drinking?" He didn't see the connection.
The very solution I employ at home... However, I have had 3 kids in 2 pregnancies-- this is not a show that everyone wants to see. I'll wear my push up bra and pretend like that's where things (still) are naturally
The very solution I employ at home... However, I have had 3 kids in 2 pregnancies-- this is not a show that everyone wants to see. I'll wear my push up bra and pretend like that's where things (still) are naturally
And that is their right to attract attention, as a woman, or not in school, on their own time.
But like I said, the other day with the see through shirt and bra, no. Sorry.
I broke dress code all the time.
Uniforms for both boys and girls, khakis and polos, would solve the issue.
That's ultimately the only solution; uniforms. Sexuality is what it is - agree or not. So girls are gonna be girls, boys are gonna be boys, we try to raise em right, pray for God's help, and hope for the best. But until choice is eliminated in school attire it will be a continuing battle.
That's ultimately the only solution; uniforms. Sexuality is what it is - agree or not. So girls are gonna be girls, boys are gonna be boys, we try to raise em right, pray for God's help, and hope for the best. But until choice is eliminated in school attire it will be a continuing battle.
I read an interesting factoid the other day: that uniforms would save some money as well. It probably costs money to try to keep up with the fashion trends.
The reason why we have even young kids dressing immodestly is because our country has cast God out of our schools as well as moral standards.
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I would love to see our school have uniforms. Khakis with polo shirts in school colors is just fine. We live in such a rural, poor district though, that I can't see people being able to afford uniforms. Especially when some can't afford running water. :/
This of course is being said by the school nurse who is wearing jeans, Converse sneakers, and a school logo sweatshirt today. Hey- our girl's basketball team is playing in the state championship this weekend, gotta show my Bulldog pride at the pep rally this afternoon!!!
Ohio- This is so exciting! Good luck to your girls basketball team! I love this time of year for basketball!!
Well kidz, look what you started! Our school has a dress code and it works about as well as everyone else's. As long as the decision is left to parents and kids the dress code will be broken. I sooooo wish we had uniforms here. The dynamics working here are allover the map. I think I read the previous posts but I could have missed something and this could have been answered already - but what is the reason a teenage girl, or any other woman, would wear something provocative or unusual other than to attract attention? Come on now be honest...and don't hit too hard; you know how sensitive I am
I don't mind opening this can of worms. I love discussing all things feminism (as long as everyone is respectful, hence why I have stopped discussing things with some folks on FB).
I would love school uniforms to take all focus off student dress too.
Woman and girls dress to attract attention because that is what they've been conditioned to do. Beauty=worth. The more the opposite sex is interested, the more worth there is. Provocative dress garners that attention.
A young girl who is just learning that cleavage will get that boy in math class to talk to her is certain to want to show that cleavage. Positive reinforcement. Boys are praised by their peers for "getting some" or "wearing her down" when they pressure a girl to be physical. Again, positive reinforcement.
I read an interesting factoid the other day: that uniforms would save some money as well. It probably costs money to try to keep up with the fashion trends.
The reason why we have even young kids dressing immodestly is because our country has cast God out of our schools as well as moral standards.
Uniforms definitely save money! My girls want all these Justice clothes and those sparkly shirts aren't cheap!
The bolded would open an entirely different can of worms... Which God do you want in school? We have students from a wide variety of religious backgrounds. We can't choose just one to have in school.
Uniforms definitely save money! My girls want all these Justice clothes and those sparkly shirts aren't cheap!
The bolded would open an entirely different can of worms... Which God do you want in school? We have students from a wide variety of religious backgrounds. We can't choose just one to have in school.
I don't think I was quite clear when I said we were setting our girls up for failure. I don't believe that explaining appropriate clothing choices is setting girls up for failure. I think society is setting up girls for failure when it tells them they need to look attractive and that certain "inappropriate" clothing is attractive. That when most girls think that getting a boyfriend is more important than math. That when girls' clothing is simply made significantly smaller. When they think that being outrageous is the way to get attention. Those are the ways that society is setting girls up for failure. Certainly not all girls have those thoughts and concerns, but enough do. If you don't fix the underlying problems, then when a girl asks why she can't wear a sundress to school, all she's going to hear is that it's distracting to boys. And that is the problem.
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Oh no. Don't even go there.