Dr. Phil today

Bloodman · Dec 8, 2004

You guys are all hilarious. You're all mad at the cheating guy, but surely the mistress nurse knew all along that he was married. I worked the same shift for over three years and saw unmarried, pregnant nurses roaming the hallways (and using co-workers for all their dirty work) one after another unabated. Let's not pretend that the nursing profession is spilling over with an abundance of moral and ethical behavior. It really consists more of high-mindedness than anything else.

nursechris1 · Dec 8, 2004

I worked in a small town hospital. There was a doctor and nurse having an affair. In fact, He was helping her pay for Nurse Practitioner school. Well, I don't know what happened, if he finally decided to get morals or what, but he ended the affair. The nurse then went after his license, saying she was his patient and he had an affair with her. Thus violating the Doctor patient relationship no no. She won, he had to practice medicine for 6 months without pay. I bet he won't ever do it again.

niecy_nurse · Dec 8, 2004

I would love to see a transcript of that show as well so that I can write to DR. Phil

RogueRN · Dec 8, 2004

Hi there... I'm a senior nursing student with a past life in the big bad world of business. I share the same feelings as many of you - frustration with the perception of nursing. Writing the Dr. Phil show is a good idea, however, I think we need to take it further (i.e. big picture)! In many of my classes, there have been discussions on how we can improve the perception of nurses... According to many of my professors (who have been nurses for 15+ years - not just academics), we need to:

***Band together as a political force. Take stands on issues and play a more active role on getting bills passed, etc. Dispel the stereotype of being passive.

***Become more active in research/academia.

***More community involvement. If people in our communities see us represented (and by good people for that matter), then that's advertising for our profession!

They had more thoughts - but those were the big ones. I think they're right! There is power in numbers. We have the numbers!!!

I can't wait to graduate, get some experience under my belt, and represent the profession. Just point me in the right direction!!!

Cheers...

shell911rn · Dec 8, 2004

I wish I would have heard about this sooner (shows you how widely publicized it was in the media:rolleyes: ) so I could have sent my own complaints. I'm a 25 year old new graduate nurse and I feel much of the problems I have with patients and doctors alike are due to their lack of education about what my responsibilities and roles are as a nurse. When I think about what my job entails in the ER and what is actually shown on the TV show "ER" there's quite a misrepresentation of nursing in the media. And bedding a doctor is the last thing on my mind when I'm taking care of patients. First, I'd have to get past their arrogance and indignation to start. I've seen may be one nurse in the 4 years I've been in the medical field messing around and pregnant by a doctor. And she was doing that on her off time. Some flirt with doctors but it doesn't take away from patient care nor involve a nurse sitting on her butt at the nurse's station twirling her hair while chewing bubble gum and playing footsy. It's innocent and about as much as you'd see in any other workplace on a regular basis. I hate it when I meet a guy who thinks that because I'm a nurse that I'm going to take care of him, too. I recently had to explain to a male friend that the work I do is just as traumatic and tough as his love interest who was a cop otherwise I was going to have to sit through another conversation about how hard her work was (although, most definitely, in a different way). We have a long way to go guys and gals. Let's hope this whole fiasco with Dr. Phil will be a starting point and that he will show what our job entails. Then may be we can get Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger to change his mind about nursing ratios in California and getting other states thinking along the same lines. Just a thought. :rolleyes:

nursy swat · Dec 8, 2004

Ok, just now i was watching Dr. Phil interveiw a physician who had an affair with a nurse and he said (as close a paraphrase as I can remember from five minutes ago):
"I've worked in the health care delivery system for a long time and I've seen lots of times nurses playing footsie with doctors because they see it as their ticket out of having to work as a nurse".
Ok, I'm not going to even get into all the problems with this statement since they are obvious, I am writing the show right now to explain why this is not an acceptable way to desribe a profession.
Who's with me?

I was watching that show as well and when Dr Phil made that comment, I lost a lot of respect for him. In fact, I haven't watched his show since then but didn't realize until now that perhaps that comment he made was the reason. Like you said, it's really not worth analyzing since everything about the comment is inherently wrong on so many levels. He should really be more careful about what he says especially since people really listen to him and take what he says as being completely accurate. In fact, I used to view him as being right on the money with his perceptions. Not any more. What gets me is that comment was made to a dysfunctional doctor whereby Dr. Phil is placing a generalization on nurses taking some of the blame off of the dysfunctional MD and placing it on the idiot nurse who had the affair and is now pregant. Not very therapeutic.

CCU NRS · Dec 8, 2004

Hi there... I'm a senior nursing student with a past life in the big bad world of business. I share the same feelings as many of you - frustration with the perception of nursing. Writing the Dr. Phil show is a good idea, however, I think we need to take it further (i.e. big picture)! In many of my classes, there have been discussions on how we can improve the perception of nurses... According to many of my professors (who have been nurses for 15+ years - not just academics), we need to:
***Band together as a political force. Take stands on issues and play a more active role on getting bills passed, etc. Dispel the stereotype of being passive.
***Become more active in research/academia.
***More community involvement. If people in our communities see us represented (and by good people for that matter), then that's advertising for our profession!
They had more thoughts - but those were the big ones. I think they're right! There is power in numbers. We have the numbers!!!
I can't wait to graduate, get some experience under my belt, and represent the profession. Just point me in the right direction!!!
Cheers...

For a quick lesson in how nurses react together about political issues and banding together see this thread, also note I have addressed a couple of times that a Registry would be a good idea and the debate just continues to boil and they won't even consider banding together it would seem.

https://allnurses.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86282

I also can't resist

THEY GOT the GUNS but WE GOT NUMBERS!! JIM MORRISON 5 to 1

kmrmom42 · Dec 8, 2004

Want the facts on this and the info on the response from the nursing profession?

Go here:

http://www.nursingadvocacy.org/press/releases/2004nov_dr_phil.html

lossforimagination · Dec 8, 2004

http://www.nursingadvocacy.org/news/news.html

You can still send a letter. Go to this website, you can send a number of letters.

I wish I would have heard about this sooner (shows you how widely publicized it was in the media:rolleyes: ) so I could have sent my own complaints. I'm a 25 year old new graduate nurse and I feel much of the problems I have with patients and doctors alike are due to their lack of education about what my responsibilities and roles are as a nurse. When I think about what my job entails in the ER and what is actually shown on the TV show "ER" there's quite a misrepresentation of nursing in the media. And bedding a doctor is the last thing on my mind when I'm taking care of patients. First, I'd have to get past their arrogance and indignation to start. I've seen may be one nurse in the 4 years I've been in the medical field messing around and pregnant by a doctor. And she was doing that on her off time. Some flirt with doctors but it doesn't take away from patient care nor involve a nurse sitting on her butt at the nurse's station twirling her hair while chewing bubble gum and playing footsy. It's innocent and about as much as you'd see in any other workplace on a regular basis. I hate it when I meet a guy who thinks that because I'm a nurse that I'm going to take care of him, too. I recently had to explain to a male friend that the work I do is just as traumatic and tough as his love interest who was a cop otherwise I was going to have to sit through another conversation about how hard her work was (although, most definitely, in a different way). We have a long way to go guys and gals. Let's hope this whole fiasco with Dr. Phil will be a starting point and that he will show what our job entails. Then may be we can get Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger to change his mind about nursing ratios in California and getting other states thinking along the same lines. Just a thought.

Chaya, ASN, RN · Dec 8, 2004

O yeah, getting knocked up by a married philanderer- that would be my FIRST thought about how to stop working and live like a pampered princess.

SmilingBluEyes · Dec 8, 2004

O yeah, getting knocked up by a married philanderer- that would be my FIRST thought about how to stop working and live like a pampered princess.

roflmao good one! :rotfl:

RE Agent · Dec 8, 2004

Deb, I love Judge Judy too. I have never read her books but I love the show. She tells it like it is.

I have 2 of her books, "Don't Pee On My Leg, and Tell Me It's Raining", and " Your Smarter than You Look". good reading.