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You can always tell when I've been hanging out on the Allnurses.com forums too much -- I get up on a soap box. I'm amazed, though, at how many new nurses are grasping at straws to find "reasons" to quit their first jobs because they're unhappy and they're just positive that things are going to be better elsewhere. Even if there is no elsewhere in the immediate future. It's not THEIR fault that they're miserable -- it's the job. Or their co-workers are all mean and out to get them. (Probably because of their incredible beauty.) Staffing is a nightmare, the CNAs are all hiding and they're afraid they're going to "loose" their license. They'd better quit RIGHT NOW, so they don't "loose" that license. (I wonder if that one is as transparent to spouses who are looking for a little help with the rent -- not to mention those school loans you've racked up -- as it is to some of the rest of us.) The job is ruining their lives and their mental health -- they're seriously worried for their mental health if they don't quit right now. Where did all of these fragile people come from?

Seriously, folks. The first year of nursing sucks. You have the internet and all of that -- how could you not know that the first year of nursing sucks? It does. We've all been through it. The only way to GET through it is to GO through it, but there's a big group of newbies every year who are SURE that doesn't apply to them. No one as ever been as miserable as they are. No one understands. They HATE going to work every day. Management is targeting them and they're sure they're going to be fired. They're concerned that their mental health might be permanently damaged by the trauma of staying in that job ONE MORE DAY. Given the inevitability of "loosing" that license and permanent damage to their mental health, it's all right to quit that job tomorrow, isn't it? Or maybe it's that their DREAAAAAAAAM job is opening up, and they've been offered the job. It's OK to quit this job to take their DREAAAAAAAAM job, isn't it?

How do they even know their dream job is hiring if they have every intention of making their first job work out? What are all those job applications doing out there, floating around if they're serious about this job? You DID intend to keep this job for one to two years when you took it, didn't you? If not, shame on you!

The first year of nursing sucks. You're going to hate going to work every day, and some of you are going to cry all the way to work and all the way home. You'll be exhausted, both mentally and physically and your normal hobbies and activities may take second seat to the job. You'll be constantly afraid of making a mistake, and you will MAKE mistakes. You'll feel incompetent. You may lose sleep because you're worrying about your job. Switching jobs isn't going to miraculously make you confident and competent. It's just going to delay you on your path through that first miserable year. It may even look bad on your resume, paint you as a job hopper. (I'm always shocked by how many new nurses are on their third or fourth job in less than two years who will assure me that they're not job hoppers. Honey, if you're on your third job in less than two years, you're a job hopper. Really.)

Don't people have bills to pay? Or is it that no one feels responsible for paying their own bills anymore? How is it that so many people feel free to just up and quit a paying job without another one in sight? I guess I'm getting old, because I really don't get it.

I have to say that even in the short Nursing career that I've had, I have seen a huge change and it's not for the better. Yes it's the same problems as before, but employers are expecting A LOT more out if you for the same pay. Staffing ratios are crazier than ever. Nursing students are not prepared for this during school, as they are continued to be told of the fairy tale nursing shortage. I agree with Ruby that it seems many are just coming up with excuses to quit, but sometimes I don't blame them.

(While I will admit I am not literary genius I feel I have to mention something.. Since we are always nit picking grammar on here I will add that apostrophes were missing all over that post)

Specializes in CNA.

I'm not a nurse as I am just embarking the journey from the beginning and after reading this thread I agree with the good, the bad and the ugly.

I don't know what nurses went through before "today" educationally nor professionally and I won't claim to. I do know that as with each and every job there will be issues, politics and problems. Do we quit them when the first ship sinks? Nah, I don't think so. But who wants to be treated like the poo under someone's shoe because they are "new"?

As new nurses (and even student nurses) we can learn a lot from those of you who have been around in the profession for awhile. We can even learn something from those who graduated the year before us! Each work place is different and one person's experience at ACME Hospital may not be your experience there. Its the same way it is with a factory job, a desk job or any other position we take. We have to earn our place. What are we in this field for anyway? Are we there to help others (which should be primary) or are we there for other reasons? No, we won't get along with our supervisors or co-workers, but does that hinder our job performance? It shouldn't!

As I stated, I am NOWHERE near where most of you are, I am just a student and I do know that my first year as an RN will not be peaches and cream because I will STILL learn so much! And that's ok! Wherever I end up, I plan on giving them the best of my nursing abilities and education has to offer! With a little longevity!

Exactly. OP is in serious need of a reality check.

The market my mother and her parents experienced is far different from the market my generation, Gen Y, is facing. The majority of employers don't value and treat their employees with respect anymore. My generation is facing massive amounts of debt, instability and stagnant wages. Oftentimes, job hopping leads to raises (which, by the way, help support social security for the older generations).

A happy employee is typically more productive than an unhappy employee. We, the Gen Y, must look out for ourselves, as self-centered as that may be. We won't have the welfare system and social security that our grandparents had (let's face it: there will be NO social security for Gen Y). We have to get it while we can, however we can...so as long as it is legal, of course. ;)

Don't think the OP's post was overly "mean" or whatever, just dealing with the real.

You can go back to the 1970's, 1980's or whenever and find that nurses ranging from GN to seasoned RNs with years of experience under their belts had some very bad names for their employers. In terms of treatment while things aren't orange blossoms everywhere, they are by and large streets ahead of the days when you could be gotten shot of by lunch time for say being caught not wearing a cap or because you told Dr. Dreamboat to keep his hands to himself.

Looking at things from a larger picture each time new grads jump ship say

IIRC fully one in five newly licensed nurses do not complete their probationary period after hire. That number has remained pretty constant for the past decade or so. Some are discharged for cause, but a good portion simply run for the exits screaming " I didn't go to nursing school for this....".

Well Dr. Frankenstein, meet your monster. Hospitals in many areas now are strongly shying away from new grads in favour of well seasoned experienced nurses, even if it means hiring travelers. They are seeking nurses with proven records who they assume know what the job of nursing is about. Where new grads are hired it is like training for the Olympics. You will be screened, interviewed, and so forth by all and sundry and chosen only if everyone agrees you are a good "fit"

Specializes in Med/surg, Quality & Risk.
I am plan to quit here after my 6 months so I can transfer within the hospital to somewhere where the pt is knocked out and I don't have to talk to them or the family member.

Oh dear. After six months there, make sure you go to CRNA school so you can have your DREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM job AND make the big bucks!

Specializes in Med-Surg, NICU.
Don't think the OP's post was overly "mean" or whatever, just dealing with the real.

Where did I state that it was?

You can go back to the 1970's, 1980's or whenever and find that nurses ranging from GN to seasoned RNs with years of experience under their belts had some very bad names for their employers. In terms of treatment while things aren't orange blossoms everywhere, they are by and large streets ahead of the days when you could be gotten shot of by lunch time for say being caught not wearing a cap or because you told Dr. Dreamboat to keep his hands to himself.

Looking at things from a larger picture each time new grads jump ship say

IIRC fully one in five newly licensed nurses do not complete their probationary period after hire. That number has remained pretty constant for the past decade or so. Some are discharged for cause, but a good portion simply run for the exits screaming " I didn't go to nursing school for this....".

Well Dr. Frankenstein, meet your monster. Hospitals in many areas now are strongly shying away from new grads in favour of well seasoned experienced nurses, even if it means hiring travelers. They are seeking nurses with proven records who they assume know what the job of nursing is about. Where new grads are hired it is like training for the Olympics. You will be screened, interviewed, and so forth by all and sundry and chosen only if everyone agrees you are a good "fit"

Okay...this has NOTHING to do with my post....

Specializes in Trauma, Orthopedics.
I quit my first job after 6 months to take another god forsaken medsurg job in a bigger city, the only reason was to move into big city for better job. Let me ask you OP, have you even hated your job? Lol, I mean, I am wondering what kind of departments you have worked at. I am plan to quit here after my 6 months so I can transfer within the hospital to somewhere where the pt is knocked out and I don't have to talk to them or the family member. So shame on me for not holding on for 1-2 yrs hating my job and my life.

I really don't have anything of value to add other than I am so embarrassed for you.

I knew nursing wouldn't be a walk in the park. I expected some level of stress. What I didn't expect? Having 8 to 11 patients on Med-Surg and Tele floor. More than a year later I am still in shock by this and ready to leave. I'm not new anymore. I get my job done when I'm there. I'm not afraid of losing my license. I just know that this sort of staffing is not only unfair to the staff, but totally an injustice to the patients too. How can you possibly take GOOD care of that many patients? I don't think it's wrong of me to want to leave that situation.

Everyone has a different situation for staying or leaving their job. To each is their own. Honestly, I can't blame a lot of these people for wanting to get out of situations where staffing is this bad. Some people may have a false idea of this career and think a "dream job" will be easy to find. I just want a position where I can sort of feel like a nurse and not a robot in overdrive slamming meds into 11 people.

I definitely get your post Ruby. However, I think there is a small percentage of new grads that do need to leave their jobs just to maintain their sanity. I was one of them. Yes, I had bills but they took a second seat to my mental health. I left My CVICU as a new RN after about a year and landed a job in mother/baby which happens to be my "dreaaaaaaaaaaam" job. I'm much happier and never felt so proud to be a nurse. Yes, my job is hard and somedays are almost unbearable. But my worst day on mother/baby would be my best day in CVICU. No comparison.

I do believe some new grads wear rose colored glasses and think nursing is sunshine and skittles. Therefore, when they actually have to work as a nurse they quit because it did not live up to their dreams. Then, you have some nurses like me who really did give everything they had to make the first job work and for some reason it didn't. I don't apologize for quitting my first job. I did what was best for me and my family.

Don't lump all of us in the same group.

Specializes in Nurse Scientist-Research.

RubyVee;

Big fan here, awaiting my invitation to the crusty bat society when it's time. But I have to admit I thought your original posting was a tad harsh in it's tone, though I agree with the general message.

Having said that, then came this. . .

I am plan to quit here after my 6 months so I can transfer within the hospital to somewhere where the pt is knocked out and I don't have to talk to them or the family member. So shame on me for not holding on for 1-2 yrs hating my job and my life.

And all of a sudden your original posting was pitch perfect.

I knew nursing wouldn't be a walk in the park. I expected some level of stress. What I didn't expect? Having 8 to 11 patients on Med-Surg and Tele floor. More than a year later I am still in shock by this and ready to leave. I'm not new anymore. I get my job done when I'm there. I'm not afraid of losing my license. I just know that this sort of staffing is not only unfair to the staff, but totally an injustice to the patients too. How can you possibly take GOOD care of that many patients? I don't think it's wrong of me to want to leave that situation.

Everyone has a different situation for staying or leaving their job. To each is their own. Honestly, I can't blame a lot of these people for wanting to get out of situations where staffing is this bad. Some people may have a false idea of this career and think a "dream job" will be easy to find. I just want a position where I can sort of feel like a nurse and not a robot in overdrive slamming meds into 11 people.

You're not afraid of losing your license with that kind of staffing?

Where did I state that it was?

Okay...this has NOTHING to do with my post....

Was defending Ruby's post in general, but yes you did not come out and call it "mean".

Bulk of my post may not have spoken to yours directly, but it still is quite relevant to your position.

Reasons why a newly hired nurse or any employee "jumps ship" can range from very important to nearly nil. Yes, you and any newly hired nurse/employee have the right to manage your career and or finances as you see fit; but then again so does the hospital.

In the long run moving about to move on and up as a new nurse may get you yours, but it isn't going to be doing any favours for your sister/brother new grads that follow.

This can be clearly seen in how the "nursing shortage" is framed in many areas today. When facilities say they cannot find nurses 99.9% of the time they are referring to the seasoned and experienced variety. In particular one that has worked in the area in question or close enough to it that he or she will require only minimal orientation. For their purposes it does not matter if there are hundreds or thousands of unemployed (but not experienced) new grads lying about spare. Let someone else spend the money on training such nurses, and they are welcomed to apply after gaining one or two years experience *elsewhere*.

Newsflash:

Life is too short to stay miserable. However, when I do switch gigs, I NEVER quit a job before I have a job offer and start date in hand, and I don't burn bridges.

This^^^ Life IS too short to be miserable. Why should someone cry to and from work? That should not happen if it can be helped. It's their bills, they have to worry about it. I had a job I cried too and from work, I kept it until I found a new job, gave my notice properly and left. I have bills, but I also have a family that relies on having a sane and awake mother and wife.

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