U.S. Politics

30 minutes ago, SummerGarden said:

You are making an inference that this president is smart.  He is not. 

Of course he's smart. He's worth 2 billion.  He's also living rent-free in your brain. So think about that for a minute.

However, I'm not really certain what is more dangerous in the emotional rhetoric of your post.

Your inference that the constitutional republic hasn't been subverted by a financially elite and illusory two party ruling class.

Or your inference that the government exists to protect anyone and the president is responsible for your personal safety.

But please, continue to enjoy your bread and circus.

6 minutes ago, SummerGarden said:

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/04/14/trump-has-made-18000-false-or-misleading-since-coming-to-office-washington-post-says.html

 

I was going to use the Washington Post, but readers would have to subscribe to the link.   Plus, unlike this poor excuse for a president, I will correct myself (which is what I was trying to do the last time I edit my post), and state this instead:

 

Thank You I will look at it. Although I was hoping for something a little more trusted . When I was doing my nursing research courses I was told to always suspect any website ending in .com as suspect as they are almost all monetized. Better to use sources with .edu

16 minutes ago, herring_RN said:

I didn't count these: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=donald-trump&ruling=false

 

OK so I looked at PoliticusUSA.com and there wasn't anything of substance there accept a bunch of pop-ups designed to infect my hard drive with Viruses. The  Politifact article also does not state actual lies but rather opinions. Mostly what these cites do is school yard finger pointing "Liar, Liar pants on fire!" which we all know is what people start doing when they don't have a cogent argument. 

12 minutes ago, hppygr8ful said:

Thank You I will look at it. Although I was hoping for something a little more trusted . When I was doing my nursing research courses I was told to always suspect any website ending in .com as suspect as they are almost all monetized. Better to use sources with .edu

I am not trying to offend you, but this is a very simplistic view of research.  When you go higher in your education, you will get a better understanding on how to vet information.  For example, newspapers in general are not .edus.  Thus, vetting information requires more work than looking at .edu vs .com.

16 minutes ago, cyc0sys said:

Of course he's smart. He's worth 2 billion.  He's also living rent-free in your brain. So think about that for a minute.

Living rent free in people's brains. I plan to plagiarize that. Awesome quote!

People do seem to let dislike/hatred of that man occupy a whole lot of their thoughts. 

49 minutes ago, hppygr8ful said:

 I am not in any way a fan of Trump and he certainly is a narcissist (but then almost all politicians are!) .

Where is your evidence that all politicians are narcists?  

43 minutes ago, cyc0sys said:

…...…...He's also living rent-free in your brain. So think about that for a minute...………….

However, I'm not really certain what is more dangerous in the emotional rhetoric of your post.

Your inference that the constitutional republic hasn't been subverted by a financially elite and illusory two party ruling class.

Or your inference that the government exists to protect anyone and the president is responsible for your personal safety.

But please, continue to enjoy your bread and circus.

Well played I had to look up the bread and circus comment but it certainly is apropos to the situation. 

 

24 minutes ago, SummerGarden said:

I am not trying to offend you, but this is a very simplistic view of research.  When you go higher in your education, you will get a better understanding on how to vet information.  For example, newspapers in general are not .edus.  Thus, vetting information requires more work than looking at .edu vs .com.

Almost every Newspaper has political bent. And most of what they report is designed to point people in a particular direction.

I am going to step away as this is about to go into name calling and education shaming which I will not do.

Hppy

26 minutes ago, cyc0sys said:

Of course he's smart. He's worth 2 billion.  He's also living rent-free in your brain. So think about that for a minute.

No, we are paying him to be in the WH.. for now.  

Edited May 20 by SummerGarden

Please, let's move back to the topic specifically and not meander and get off-track into full-blown Politics. It takes this thread off-topic.

Thanks.

15 minutes ago, AN Admin Team said:

Please, let's move back to the topic specifically and not meander and get off-track into full-blown Politics. It takes this thread off-topic.

Thanks.

OK so no I do not think he has Covid - he's tested weekly and there is no way that information could be contained.

Hppy

1 hour ago, hppygr8ful said:

OK so I looked at PoliticusUSA.com and there wasn't anything of substance there accept a bunch of pop-ups designed to infect my hard drive with Viruses. The  Politifact article also does not state actual lies but rather opinions. Mostly what these cites do is school yard finger pointing "Liar, Liar pants on fire!" which we all know is what people start doing when they don't have a cogent argument. 

If you click the title of the falsehood told by President Trump you can read the actual lie AND the evidence. I will post the first of MANY here:

Donald Trump stated on May 19, 2020 in remarks to reporters at the Capitol:  “If you look at the one (hydroxychloroquine) survey, the only bad survey, they were giving it to people that were in very bad shape. They were very old. Almost dead.”

President Trump was wrong that hydroxychloroquine studies only gave drug to dying patients

• Trump spoke as though there was only one study that found no benefit from hydroxychloroquine, and said it only looked at people “that were in very bad shape,” almost dead.
• There have been three studies, and all found no link between hydroxychloroquine and reduced deaths.
• All studies filtered out the impact of underlying health problems.

Sources for this fact-check: 

White House, Remarks by President Trump After Senate GOP Policy Lunch, May 19, 2020:  https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-senate-gop-policy-lunch-u-s-capitol/

Rev.com, Donald Trump Says He’s Taking Hydroxychloroquine to Prevent Coronavirus in Press Conference, May 18, 2020:  https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/transcript-donald-trump-says-hes-taking-hydroxychloroquine-to-prevent-coronavirus-in-press-conference

MedRxIV, Outcomes of hydroxychloroquine usage in United States veterans hospitalized with Covid-19, April 23, 2020: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v2

New England Journal of Medicine, Observational Study of Hydroxychloroquine in Hospitalized Patients with Covid-19, May 7, 2020: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410

JAMA Network, Association of Treatment With Hydroxychloroquine or Azithromycin With In-Hospital Mortality in Patients With COVID-19 in New York State, May 11, 2020: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2766117 

And much more in detail:  https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/may/20/donald-trump/trump-wrong-hydroxychloroquine-studies-only-gave-d/#sources

On 5/19/2020 at 11:21 PM, A Hit With The Ladies said:

I have no reason to believe he does. He seems asymptomatic. 

just because you are asymptomatic does not mean that you don't have it. Thus the need for social distancing, masks, etc which is a whole other thread.

I don't think the president has it. I do think if he did have it, he would do anything possible to contain that information.