Do you think nursing would be more advanced as a profression if...

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Specializes in Case Manager.

It wasn't so women dominated? No offense, but it seems like nursing still has a "stay in the kitchen and make me sandwiches" mentality sometimes.

Just a thought.

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Specializes in PACU, OR.
It wasn't so women dominated? No offense, but it seems like nursing still has a "stay in the kitchen and make me sandwiches" mentality sometimes.

Just a thought.

No offense, but nursing only started advancing as a profession when women got involved....

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Specializes in Cardiovascular, ER.

Stay in the kitchen and do what? Is this post for real?

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Specializes in Case Manager.

What I meant to say, would the profession be taken more seriously if it weren't so women dominated...

I just awoke and my brain isn't fully on yet.

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Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.
What I meant to say, would the profession be taken more seriously if it weren't so women dominated...
I am going to go against the grain and respond that, yes, I feel nursing would be taken more seriously if it was not dominated by females.

Take a look at the college-educated professions dominated by women: nursing, school teaching, librarianship, social work, and psychology all have several things in common including less respect, lower prestige, and not as much pay as the top male-dominated career pathways. While the public views nursing as the most trusted profession, we are not exactly the most respected.

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Specializes in LTC currently.
I am going to go against the grain and respond that, yes, I feel nursing would be taken more seriously if it was not dominated by females.

Take a look at the college-educated professions dominated by women: nursing, school teaching, librarianship, social work, and psychology all have several things in common including less respect, lower prestige, and not as much pay as the top male-dominated career pathways. While the public views nursing as the most trusted profession, we are not exactly the most respected.

yes, i totally agree with The Commuter here. Actually my mom and i was just talking about this the other day. Nursing would be a little better off if more men were in the field. SOME not all women display a little too much cattiness towards one another. Director of Nursing getting rid of staff due to other nurses looking better than her, and silly things like that. Pay should be better, but since it is female dominated, i think thats why pay is lower. However, i am willing to bet that if it was ran by more men, pay would ultimately be more, like in male dominated profession.

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Specializes in Case Manager.

Yeah this is the general consensus I was looking for.

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Specializes in Emergency; med-surg; mat-child.

So, it's dominated by women, but the profession has a 'get in the kitchen and make me some sandwiches' mentality?

The women who predominate in the profession feel that they should be subservient? The male professionals who are outside the profession feel this way?

Wut.

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Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
It wasn't so women dominated? No offense, but it seems like nursing still has a "stay in the kitchen and make me sandwiches" mentality sometimes.

Just a thought.

I've never met a nurse who was a simpering, subservient magnolia blossom myself, so I'd have to say no from my personal perspective. I think the "handmaiden" archetype has been overdone. But I choose to emulate the many nurses from the past who were leaders, trailblazers, pioneers, and out taking fire on the front lines in wartime.

Now as to the kitchen specifically . . . here's a thread that will tell you how well that idea went over . . . :uhoh21: :uhoh21: :uhoh21:

*Vent* RN's make toast?!?!?!

https://allnurses.com/general-nursing-discussion/vent-rns-make-517663.html

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Specializes in Cardio/Pulmonary.

I absolutely agree! This is coming from a woman too by the way... Look at the way dr's are viewed... it's mostly men, and when there is a woman doctor, it's out of the norm, and sometimes, she isn't even viewed as "good enough". I don't know about you guys, but I feel like people who are not in the medical field view nurses as the "girls who make your bed and make sure you get your food"... i dunno.. maybe i'm just crazy!!

:uhoh3:

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How many of you have worked for hospitals where the CEO, COO, and CFO were male? How many had a woman in the mix?

I've never worked in any hospital (which sets the basic tone for the public's nursing perception) where a woman was in charge of the place. DON's - yes....her boss, always a man.

Yes- women are catty and more emotional than men. And some very insecure men seem to weasel into jobs where they are "over" women.

When I've worked with female administrators/DONs, it's been really good work environments (and mostly in LTC, where women have a better shot at the top position). I had a male DON pull a gun on me when I asked about the discontinued meds- and when he wanted me to start logging them in again (a weekend sup job)....he'd been diverting, so I don't see him as much of an asset to any sort of position relating to humans. Call me picky. :D

Nurses are responsible for their own way of how they come across. I haven't heard near the negative stuff that is reported here (and I'm around Yankees- LOL :D).

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and when there is a woman doctor, it's out of the norm, and sometimes, she isn't even viewed as "good enough".

(Don't want to go off-topic, but this statement just jumped out at me -- I don't know where you live and work, but I've been in nursing nearly 30 years now, in five different states (North and South), and I've never encountered that attitude toward female physicians.)

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