I am not sure if it is true or not, but I heard that RNs get a little extra pay when they work on a day where nursing students are present. If the charge RN assigned a student to an RN, then they get the extra pay.
I am talking about college nursing students not training a new employee.
It just came on top of my head because I have been assigned to lousy RNs during my clinical rotations and it feels like they should be more engaged with students
Well now, this comment makes some valid points, but on the other hand, it is a classic example of nurses eating their young, as well as work place bullying. Shame on you.
Who are you shaming? We have no idea if you don't use the quote feature, bottom right of the post.
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
Well now, this comment makes some valid points, but on the other hand, it is a classic example of nurses eating their young, as well as work place bullying. Shame on you.
Please use the quote function so we know to whom you are being disrespectful. Assuming you're not kidding. The NETY, work place bullying and "shame on you" comments are ludicrous. I hope you're kidding.
Specializes in OR, Nursing Professional Development.
Pet peeve alert: When did "preceptoring" become a word? Preceptors are precepting an orientee.
And we don't get paid to precept a new hire unless we've taken an 8 hour course on our own time. Yet even if we don't take the course, we are still expected to precept for free.
, Goodness-- thank you for clarifying for me how I should act as a nursing professional. And my, youve already figured out this professions problem? ** headslap** if only we had thought of that. ---
if you don't want responses like this- don't have the clueless audacity to take to task the very ones you're asking for help
Sarcasm aside, you have no idea- not even an inkling-what this profession is like.
You remind me of my dtr years ago ---anytime an unanswerable question came up at work, i'd volunteer to give my dtr a call. Cause she had all the answers. at 16
(No hate here- takes way too much energy to hate. i'm tired after a full day's work including taking a nursing student into a code with me and coaching another thru her first pt teaching experience)
The "professionalism" I'm referring to spans across ALL professional jobs, so please don't get on a high horse and think that nurses are the only "profession" I'm referring to. Also, saturating your reply with sarcasm and then trying to make a point doesn't usually bode well. Since I don't have LPN/RN/MSN/CRNA/etc behind my name I don't know what professionalism looks like? That's a naive perspective to take. If you would take time to actually look at what I was saying, I really pinned about 95% of everything on student nurses. Literally all I asked is a professional remain as such. Is that so harsh? Is that too much to ask for? You also phrase all of this as though I'm some young girl. I'm an adult, so sorry if talking down to me won't work.
Have you read all ten pages of replies from real nurses working in the real world? If you have, and you STILL don't get it, you're not paying attention.
No one has suggested NOT conducting oneself in a professional manner when students are around, but students get to follow you places your patients can't. The student who follows me into the bathroom (again) may get a reaction from me that you don't consider appropriate. I'm sorry about that, but nurses are human, and a bathroom break ought to be private. Many students apparently DON'T get it that they're in the way.
Again, no one has said they don't give a damn about students, but (again), it is NOT our job to teach you. That's what your clinical instructor is paid for. OUR job is to take care of the patients, and THEY come first, even if that interferes with you're "learning needs."
We nurses don't deserve your eyerolls, your huffs, your nasty attitudes or your sense of entitlement. Go back and READ the thread. Open your mind. And have some compassion for the working nurses that you apparently aspire to join.
It sounds like you're speaking more out of a negative personal experience with a student than as a whole concept? If you had nursing students who followed you into the latrine (which is a private area and sounds a bit like no privacy was given) then I apologize. I do have to say that while some people did not directly come out and say it, much despise has been directed towards student nurses as a whole, usually because of a bad experience with one (or some). All I ask is that you judge on a one-one basis. Personally, I have never had a "bad" nurse during clinicals, and I feel like that is reflected in my post. I didn't condemn nurses, I actually put 95% of my comments onto students (like myself). All I asked was that on the floor, in front of patients, and in professional interactions with students that a nurse remain professional. I don't know why that's too much to ask.
It sounds like you're speaking more out of a negative personal experience with a student than as a whole concept? If you had nursing students who followed you into the latrine (which is a private area and sounds a bit like no privacy was given) then I apologize. I do have to say that while some people did not directly come out and say it, much despise has been directed towards student nurses as a whole, usually because of a bad experience with one (or some). All I ask is that you judge on a one-one basis. Personally, I have never had a "bad" nurse during clinicals, and I feel like that is reflected in my post. I didn't condemn nurses, I actually put 95% of my comments onto students (like myself). All I asked was that on the floor, in front of patients, and in professional interactions with students that a nurse remain professional. I don't know why that's too much to ask.
If you never had a problem, why are you preaching about professionalism?
What an odd response, and with quite the patronizing tone for a student. Can you add anything of value that hasn't been said fifty different ways already by fifty different students?
Pet peeve alert: When did "preceptoring" become a word? Preceptors are precepting an orientee.
And we don't get paid to precept a new hire unless we've taken an 8 hour course on our own time. Yet even if we don't take the course, we are still expected to precept for free.
Well, some people were conversating about what it's called when you're orientating someone, and they decided preceptoring was the way to go. Some people like extra syllables.
What an odd response with quite the patronizing tone for a student. Can you add anything of value that hasn't been said fifty different ways already by fifty different students?
You seem to feel very personally attacked by me, although I don't really understand why. I apologize if anything I said sounded patronizing, but you seem to do it well yourself. Everything I said was said dead-pan. I did think it was quite an odd question, seeing as it's not something you necessarily need personal experience with to be able to distinguish. And why is this in relation to my being a student? You're not my instructor nor any advisor to me, so why would that affect how you communicate with me?
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